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Posted by djlemeir on Jun-25-2003 20:32:

tips for building furniture

A setup isnt a setup if its not set up well, right?

so i sed to myself i should build me something to house my stuff.
right now i have 2 gemini xl-500's, a pmx-60 mixer wich im getting rid off pretty soon ( any buyers?)
can u guys gimme n e tips to build somethin nice i.e,: wat kinda wood, screws vs nails and the such..

thx!


Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-25-2003 22:37:

Well, first off, as with everything, it depends how much money and time you are willing to put into this. You can buy plenty of cases that will definetly save you time, and in the longrun, probably money too. If you want to build something that is versitile, then go with a normal flight case for your mixer and decks. It will be by far your lightest option too if you plan on moving it around.

If you want to build something more permanent, then I would use wood that is very hard so that you can reduce as much vibration as you can. The most important thing to remember isn't to fit the desk/table or whatever exactly to your equipment--leave room for padding and heat dissapation and of course wiring--and even space for future upgrades.

I would suggest that you start searching the net for good ideas and really map out and plan for exactly what you want to accomplish. Do you just want your equipment there, or do you want room for your latest records, or your whole record collection? How about two areas for records, one to keep your tunes in and another to put the already-been-played tracks into an organized setlist? Do you want a little space for some cleaning supplies, spare parts, tools or a flashlight? How about a place to store your headphones? Your CDs? Do you want to hook up your equipment to your computer? Will you have to make a place to fit a dedicated box or will you run lines out the back? Can you access the cords easily enough if something gets yanked out? Are you going to include standds for your monitors? Again, can heat dissapate quickly and efficiently, or will you need to buy a computer fan or similar and hook it up as part of your design? What about dedicated electral outlets so taht you only have one cord running across the floor? And maybe a nice area rug to run the cord under? How heavy can it be and how big? What type of space are you going to stick it in? A corner or in the middle of the room etc? Will this mean you have to rearrange existing furnature or do you have a dedicated room? Where can you plug your stuff in? Will you make your stand have lights on it? If so, how will you attach it and supply energy to it?

Anway, start thinking about these things then start piecing together a budget and a blueprint. Go to a hardware store and start to price materials and make approximate cost analyses. You don't need to get really expensive wood if you are on a budget. You can cover it with carpet (the black kind that so much musical equipment boxes are covered with). Or you can stain the wood or even make it out of metal. Do you have the correct tools to do this? Most importantly, make sure that it is very level!!


Posted by djlemeir on Jun-25-2003 22:51:

thx alot man, sick reply, made me think of alot of points, specially bout the level


Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-25-2003 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by djlemeir
thx alot man, sick reply, made me think of alot of points, specially bout the level


Sure thing. It is very important that your end result is level, but if it turns out not to be that way in the end, you can always cut the padding to suit your leveling needs. Or you can design your stuff so that you end up with a slightly enclosed box. There is autoleveling cement that you can pick up at most hardware stores like lowes, home depot and other local ones. This stuff is ment for bathrooms etc, but you can use it to level the areas under where you TTs will be sitting. This will also provide a heavy, sturdy base that will help absorb any shock and vibration.


Posted by PhloTron on Jun-26-2003 01:11:

I'm building a set up myself too...good points Flesch...another place to get some ideas may be the Bedroom DJ pictures thread ...here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...edroom+pictures

I got several basic ideas from the hundreds of pictures that have floated by this thread. Then, like stated, do some blue prints, choose if you want a permanent or moblie set up, and make sure everything is accessable.

I'm building a semi-permanent 3 piece uiit that will fit into a "corner". TT's will be on each end piece, and a trapazoidal center unit will house the mixer and CD tables. with rack space below and additional storage above. Black marble formica and a walnut or cherry wood finish for show, along with the padding and duability, and size, to still transport if needed.

Difficult to explain, but as you can see...I went down the same road that your starting...and with a carpenter friend to help...he hopes to market the end product in the future in hopes of getting other people interested in his custom work...A pretty good deal for both of us, and it will save me money over buying a factory built coffin(s).

Good Luck.


Posted by Vlad on Jun-26-2003 01:30:

Im soooo lucky in this department, being that my father owns a woodworking shop. I intend to build myself a sweet looking black table w/ metal rods as shelf's for vinyl's. In the middle there will be a regular type shelf for amps and such. on top will be my SKB coffin with my tables and stuff. My only worry is I have to make it long enough so that if I decide to get a third turntable there is room for it.

The key to building a nice looking table is have fun doing it. Be creative. i.e. put some neon lights under your turntables so that when your mixing at home you have this sick looking light effect - heres another idea, use wood, but dont color it, instead have someone do some nice graffiti.

As to what to build and how to build it, its hard to explain, but use coarse screws! the length you will have to figure out. As as mentioned before, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS LEVEL.


Posted by djlemeir on Jun-26-2003 16:12:

HOORAY FOR THESE BOARDS!!
vlads idea for the neon is pretty cool,
my setup's gonna look lika an import car hhihihihiihihi


Posted by TwiloNYC on Jun-27-2003 05:10:

Go with MDF. It cuts easily, strong (as long as its built right), sturdy, acoustically sound (most speaker cabinets are made of MDF) and it be can finished (painted or veneered) very easily. I tried making a custom case using 3/4" birch plywood but it was such a bitch cutting it. Considering the design I'm after needs perfect fit (modeling it after DUAL tables to fit my equip ), I sorta gave up on using the plywoods... a small mistake with plywood will splinter and ruin the birch. I just got myself a bunch of 3/4" MDF 2X4s and will use real wood veneer to finish and stain it instead.


Posted by rqpeyruxvg on Jun-29-2003 18:49:

Well i am going too build my own setup furniture soon and i will learn a few tricks here and there seens tho i am related to Nordstroms lol...if i get any tips and stuff i will post them up for you...

peace,

tezz


Posted by whitesmoke on Jun-30-2003 18:28:

mine
still have to finish the black trim and finsh it with a clear coat.


if your tt are near big speakers, make sure you pad them underneath so they dont vibrate. i cut up an egg crate from a bed and it fixed my problem.


Posted by djlemeir on Jun-30-2003 18:43:

thx guys, n e one know wat mdf is in french?? and how much mdf costs?


Posted by djlemeir on Jul-01-2003 00:42:

i was thinking of putting my tts on 2 2by4's or something like dat, but not on the legs, but directly on the mettal under, is that ggod?


Posted by YellowG555 on Jul-01-2003 08:53:

What does MDF stand for? I am thinking of building a similar table like yours, TwiloNYC.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-01-2003 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by TwiloNYC
Go with MDF. It cuts easily, strong (as long as its built right), sturdy, acoustically sound (most speaker cabinets are made of MDF) and it be can finished (painted or veneered) very easily. I tried making a custom case using 3/4" birch plywood but it was such a bitch cutting it. Considering the design I'm after needs perfect fit (modeling it after DUAL tables to fit my equip ), I sorta gave up on using the plywoods... a small mistake with plywood will splinter and ruin the birch. I just got myself a bunch of 3/4" MDF 2X4s and will use real wood veneer to finish and stain it instead.


this is a very nice setup. looks like you did some amazing work. i love it when the turntables and mixer are flush with the table. i think I'll build myself something along these lines.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-02-2003 18:05:

TwiloNYC, what did you use to cut your wood? I would like to make something similar, but I dont have all these fancy saws. I could very easily rent something though, depending on what it is.


Posted by auujay on Jul-02-2003 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by YellowG555
What does MDF stand for? I am thinking of building a similar table like yours, TwiloNYC.



I believe it stands for Medium Density Fiberboard. It is made of small particals of wood and glued together to form a sheet. The main advantage is that this makes it VERY even as there is no wood grain or knots in it (and it is not to expensive). Of course it does not look amazing (as there is not grain or anything) but that can be painted over or vaneered. MDF is a kind of partical board, but there are many other kinds that use different sized wood chunks, you want MDF.


Posted by TwiloThunder on Jul-02-2003 19:52:

TwiloNYC are you part of the DualSF team?

Just wondering because that pic looks awfully familiar

http://www.dualsf.com/gallery/

Plenty of table ideas at that site.


Posted by anth_on_e on Jul-02-2003 20:16:

eh DJ CHRONO and WHITESMOKE...how much did it cost you to build the table/furniture because your setups look amazing?!


Posted by rqpeyruxvg on Jul-02-2003 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by TwiloThunder
TwiloNYC are you part of the DualSF team?

Just wondering because that pic looks awfully familiar

http://www.dualsf.com/gallery/

Plenty of table ideas at that site.


nice link mate, cheers for that one


Posted by TwiloNYC on Jul-02-2003 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
TwiloNYC, what did you use to cut your wood? I would like to make something similar, but I dont have all these fancy saws. I could very easily rent something though, depending on what it is.


lol. that's not mine. i said that's what i'm modeling mine after (DualSF tables). sorry for the confusion.

I used 3/4" thick birch plywood but cutting it was a BITCH! Some edges when cut too fast would splinter the birch and ruin the whole thing. So I got myself a load of MDF, which is 100Xs easier to cut. To cut out the shape of the TTs, mixer, etc. you'd need a fixed or plunge Router with a straight carbon bit and a good straight edge guide. Also a good thing to have is a Milter, Circular or Table Saw. It's time consuming and you have to carefully measure & plan it out.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-04-2003 03:14:

I see.. Well I just picked up some MDF and a nice Jigsaw to make a new pair of speaker stands. I must say, MDF is amazing. The cuts are so precise, smooth edges, very very easy to work with. I cant believe how accurate I was able to cut it with the jigsaw without using a guide.

I will probably build a DJ table similar to the ones on the DUAL site, but I will definately make some changes. Most of theirs have to many open shelves.. I would rather have three equipment slots (amp sized) with a hinged door on the front (with shelves inside) and two drawers on either side, to store records. I will probably construct it out of MDF, as I like working with it so much and its not really that expensive.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-04-2003 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by anth_on_e
eh DJ CHRONO and WHITESMOKE...how much did it cost you to build the table/furniture because your setups look amazing?!


I didnt post any pictures of my setup! You must be refering to someone else.

Anyways, i think when I do build my DJ table setup, it will probably cost around 150 (canadian) or so for supplies. maybe alittle more if I want railed drawers and nice handles.


Posted by anth_on_e on Jul-04-2003 04:29:

o ya sorry i thought a pic of a setup in one of ur posts was urs sorry


Posted by Seany_G on Sep-15-2003 07:07:

Hey guys, I am looking to build something very similar to you.

I am going to steal this exact design.



The top unit for the monitors and cd decks is simple.

The question I have is how do you build something liek this so taht you can get to the back of the mixer with realitive easyness?
I guess Armin must have some small panel that he can flip up to access the back of the mixer or something?


The other question I have is how would you support a table like this with decks / mixer? I guess you would have to anchor it to the shelves underneath but it doesn't seem like armin has the front end of it supported at all..


Thankls for the help guy sand that tip on the MDF was awsome!!!

~Seany G


Posted by Unknown DJ on Sep-15-2003 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Seany_G







yea thats a nice set up. armin seems to like it too


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