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Posted by Psygnosis on Jun-27-2003 03:34:

In The Bedroom, are you a quickie or a longie when you screw...

..up a transition .

I'm talking about when you know that you got the BPM matched but you notice that the beat is going off, do you keep it stable by nudging it or do you find a alternative route of crossfading it fast.

The main reason i'm saying this is because whenever i go clubbing, i realise that the DJ can't be bothered or doesn't have the skill to maintain the beatmatch, all they do is crossfade out of there as soon as possible to avoid crowd disappointment.

Obviously the bedroom and club is different but i want to know how many of you people TRY to maintain the beat for as long as possible.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jun-27-2003 03:58:

ummmmmm im a longie, i like to let the beats go off in their own direction i think its a sound more djs need to utilise


Posted by julianreynolds on Jun-27-2003 04:09:

try to be a longy mate but we cant all be a Dirk Diggler you know!!


Posted by Xavier on Jun-27-2003 04:28:

Re: In The Bedroom, are you a quickie or a longie when you screw...

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
..up a transition .

I'm talking about when you know that you got the BPM matched but you notice that the beat is going off, do you keep it stable by nudging it or do you find a alternative route of crossfading it fast.

The main reason i'm saying this is because whenever i go clubbing, i realise that the DJ can't be bothered or doesn't have the skill to maintain the beatmatch, all they do is crossfade out of there as soon as possible to avoid crowd disappointment.

Obviously the bedroom and club is different but i want to know how many of you people TRY to maintain the beat for as long as possible.


I'm a longie, btw can nudging be done on cdjs?


Posted by christos on Jun-27-2003 04:36:

Speak for yourself Jules hahahahahah....Longy does it better....


Posted by Psygnosis on Jun-27-2003 04:42:

Re: Re: In The Bedroom, are you a quickie or a longie when you screw...

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier
I'm a longie, btw can nudging be done on cdjs?


Yep, but for some reason i find it harder to fix it by nudging on the CDJs rather than the turntable. Thats why i like mixing more on the turntable, much easier.


Posted by christos on Jun-27-2003 04:52:

The main diff between records and cd's is that you 'can' touch the media with records as opposed to cd's in cdj's (encased in a cd player). You have more control of records than cd's for this sole reason. Also regarding beatmatching and mixing - You need to get into a habit of adjusting the pitch instead of 'nudging' the tune that ur mixing. Doing this keeps the mix smooth and without signs of speeding up and/or slowing down AND makes you a better DJ (this can vary depending on the style of trance you play...sometimes cutting the track sounds better than playing it out). It takes a lot of practice but you'll eventually get there as your ear will eventually be trained listen for it. Hope this helps bro and good luck.


Chris Pana


Posted by jizza on Jun-27-2003 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic
ummmmmm im a longie, i like to let the beats go off in their own direction i think its a sound more djs need to utilise


yes, i too am perfecting this method that dj's are hesitant to embrace. to me, nothing sounds better than a good array of galloping beats. although it may suggest that i neglect the fundamentals of mixing, it allows me to branch off into an individual and unique style that the likes of Van Dyk and Tiesto could only envy...

fucking beatmatching motherf*&%$# why does have to be so f*$#@& goddamn hard!!!


Posted by bassaholix on Jun-27-2003 06:24:

It don't matter if its 8 beats or 2 minutes... if you got the SKILLS to pay the bills... then that is what counts my friends..


Posted by venomdx on Jun-27-2003 07:22:

I like to try and keep the mix going


Posted by JayKuE on Jun-27-2003 07:31:

i like to ride the pitch all the way baby.


Posted by -=M=- on Jun-27-2003 08:00:

haha
i dont think i've learned how to use decks properly yet


Posted by euphoric dream on Jun-27-2003 08:22:

long mix to bad it ends up sounding crap when the go out of sync heh. whats the longest you guys have held a mix for? mine was like between 3-4 mins


Posted by JulesPLees on Jun-27-2003 08:49:

If your PLaying tekno and the mix stuffs up then just backspin that mutha right outta there







or something


Posted by Ghostface on Jun-27-2003 09:07:

When I'm out in a club, to me, a short in time mix is much more preferable than a long out of time mix.

IMO the difference between a good DJ and an amatuer is that the good DJ can mix in a club as they do at home or on a demo cd ie hold the mix for a number of phrases and make a long smooth transition.


Posted by Lanithium on Jun-27-2003 09:50:

i correct it... crossfading out is just as noticable as a trainwreck... sounds shit!
i keep it going as smooth as possible however long it may be, just depends on the tunes im mixing i guess... some suit short mixes some suit long.


Posted by gilmista on Jun-27-2003 11:22:

all depends on the tracks and ur style... simple


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Jun-28-2003 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoric dream
long mix to bad it ends up sounding crap when the go out of sync heh. whats the longest you guys have held a mix for? mine was like between 3-4 mins


i once had Signum - Solar Level & Rank 1 - Awakening (Ferry Corsten Remix) going for a good 5 mins, synergy stylezzzz!!!!!


Posted by webmeister on Jun-28-2003 01:10:

Yeah I keep it going for as long as possible .. usually I can keep it going for 32-48 beats...

I use the pitch sliders to keep the beats matched, for some reason I just don't like touching the record while its playing...

I usually adjust the incoming track, but once the crossfader has passed the centre of the fade, I start fiddling with the outgoing track (it just sounds better to my ears)..


Posted by matt_a on Jun-28-2003 03:03:

I am a LLLOONNNGGGYYYY. I try to make it as long as possible without going into the new breakdown or anything. Cause if you make it short your barely into the record and it tends to lose energy. ALso to have it long its nice to have all the new tracks crashes and stuff coming in too.
My longest = 6 min [no trainwrecking] (2 of Helen's Prog records )


Posted by futurevision on Jun-30-2003 16:59:

long on both turntables and cdjs

well depends on the tracks
sometimes i just like to cut it

but mostly i liek to do long transition and keep it smooth...


Posted by Spang on Jul-01-2003 00:32:

I try to do long mixes. i dont use the crossfader at all, just the volumes. More of a smooth mix i feel but everyone has different styles and different ways of doing things so if it sound good then its all good in the end


Posted by djway on Jul-01-2003 00:49:

I'm a long man.

I'm like spang, and don't touch the cross fader, I used to use both crossfader and channels, but got used to just using channels.

When I'm bring a track in, i have the EQ's fairly low, so even with the channel on max it's not, or JUST audioable. From there, I'm going about 1 min mixes, with about 4-16 bars bring a track in, 16-32 bars with both on full, and another 4-16 bars eqing out the other track. Of course different tracks are done in different ways, but that's general format.

longest mix would be a few mashups, yet 2 do on the fly, but will do this weekend....4 dex 2 play with

--djway


Posted by Xavier on Jul-01-2003 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by djway
I'm a long man.

I'm like spang, and don't touch the cross fader, I used to use both crossfader and channels, but got used to just using channels.

When I'm bring a track in, i have the EQ's fairly low, so even with the channel on max it's not, or JUST audioable. From there, I'm going about 1 min mixes, with about 4-16 bars bring a track in, 16-32 bars with both on full, and another 4-16 bars eqing out the other track. Of course different tracks are done in different ways, but that's general format.



--djway


haha I do the same with the eqs about having them in on low, it took me more than a year to find out why the incomin track in my recordings, came out so rudely and instrusive. I thought my mixer was fucked. I then found out that the eqs on 12 o'clock were too high, I use to think thathaving them on 12 o'clock was okay and normal. So now I have the eqs on 9 o'clock. Then I bring them up during the transition and decrease the eqs on the outgoing track


Posted by loulabell on Jul-01-2003 05:24:

Ohhhhh... u are actually talking bout Dj'ing! Mind outta gutter now



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