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Posted by stk on Jun-28-2003 03:25:

For those comp geeks out there!

I have 2x pc3200 crucial ddr 256mb sticks running at dual rate on my p4p800 mobo and are these sticks OCable? They have no heatspreaders on them and i was wondering if it was possible to give them better timings? The default is set to 2.5 (cas), 4 (ras# precharge), 4 (ras# to cas# delay), 8 (precharge delay), 8 (burst length)

aka 2.5-4-4-8-8

Is it possible to give them the most aggresive timings possible and still be able to run my system stable?

Was thinking 2-2-2-6-8

Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-28-2003 03:33:

Posted by whiskers on Jun-28-2003 03:40:

^^^^^^
rofl

and when the hell did RAM get more complicated than microwaving popcorn????

man, i need to update my pc...

Posted by Turbonium on Jun-28-2003 04:28:

AFAIK, Crucial blows at OCing. Go into your BIOS settings and try, see if it runs stable. I'll post your question on abother comp geek messageboard I frequent to make sure I'm right...

Posted by malek on Jun-28-2003 04:32:

i'm getting my new pc monday

P4 2.8Ghz 800FSB, MSI i875P neo mobo and 1Gig of dual channel DDR400 OCZ RAM

Posted by Turbonium on Jun-28-2003 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
i'm getting my new pc monday

P4 2.8Ghz 800FSB, MSI i875P neo mobo and 1Gig of dual channel DDR400 OCZ RAM

OCZ RAM sucks, no offense. But if you're not OCing, then I guess it doesn't matter that much.

I'm building mine the next few days. I'll post pics when I'm done.

Lian Li PC-65
P4 2.4C CPU
2*256MB Corsair XMS PC3200LL
875 chipset mobo (haven't decided on make of mobo yet)
Radeon 9600 Pro
Audigy 2
Antec 480W TrueBlue PSU
2 Antec Blue LED fans
80GB WDC SE HDD
DVD-ROM
24X Plextor CD-RW drive

Posted by Creamfields23 on Jun-28-2003 07:21:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith

Whehehehe Didn't have a so long laugh in days
Sorry Turbo can't help you either!

Posted by mndeg on Jun-28-2003 07:22:

ordered athlon xp 1800 good stepping slk800a (THATS A HEATSINK)
time to oc from 1.5 to 2.5 ghz

Posted by netw3rkd on Jun-28-2003 08:02:

testing sig

Posted by malek on Jun-28-2003 13:18:

I won't overclock, i want the most stable machine And before you buy any i875P board, check if the ram you'll buy is compatible with

Posted by Azz3D on Jun-28-2003 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
OCZ RAM sucks, no offense. But if you're not OCing, then I guess it doesn't matter that much.

I'm building mine the next few days. I'll post pics when I'm done.

Lian Li PC-65
P4 2.4C CPU
2*256MB Corsair XMS PC3200LL
875 chipset mobo (haven't decided on make of mobo yet)
Radeon 9600 Pro
Audigy 2
Antec 480W TrueBlue PSU
2 Antec Blue LED fans
80GB WDC SE HDD
DVD-ROM
24X Plextor CD-RW drive
If you don't care about the budget, at least get the 9500 pro. The 9600 pro was made to be cheaper, not faster.

9500 pro > 9600 pro
On the other hand you could get the 9500 non pro, and OC it to 9700 PRO speeds !!!! proof

Posted by Kailya on Jun-28-2003 20:45:

Re: For those comp geeks out there!

quote:
Originally posted by stk
I have 2x pc3200 crucial ddr 256mb sticks running at dual rate on my p4p800 mobo and are these sticks OCable? They have no heatspreaders on them and i was wondering if it was possible to give them better timings? The default is set to 2.5 (cas), 4 (ras# precharge), 4 (ras# to cas# delay), 8 (precharge delay), 8 (burst length)

aka 2.5-4-4-8-8

Is it possible to give them the most aggresive timings possible and still be able to run my system stable?

Was thinking 2-2-2-6-8

It's definitely possible. It will either work or it won't.... Overclocking is just like that

Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-28-2003 20:51:

If you want the most stable/aggressive memory settings, you'd need to invest in some corsair RAM.

Fraid I'm not too clued up on o/cing as yet, still learning.

look here:

http://computing.net

Posted by Blake613 on Jun-28-2003 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
and when the hell did RAM get more complicated than microwaving popcorn????

LMAO! haha

Posted by k.k.d. on Jun-29-2003 04:17:

quote:
If you don't care about the budget, at least get the 9500 pro. The 9600 pro was made to be cheaper, not faster.

It's near impossible to find 9500 pros this days.. There were at lack when it was current, and it's even rarer now..

That's why ATI made 9600 after all: demand for 9500 pro was high, but they had no stock...

quote:
On the other hand you could get the 9500 non pro, and OC it to 9700 PRO speeds !!!!

So far about 3 ppl that I know in real life who tried it (with soft mod, luckly for them) had the fun fun fun chess textures... So yeah.. You might make a 9700 out of it, but you might as well get stuck with a slowish 9500 non-pro..

Posted by kiddiejon on Jun-29-2003 11:40:

rule #1: dont o/c ram.

or if you're intending to, dont do it manually, as some1 sed there will be a settin in the bios for 'aggressive' memory setting. tbh i'd leave the timings to default, the performance increase you get will not be noticable imo. If you do do it then i'd seriously suggest investing in some ram heatsinks, just incase.. especially as it's summertime and your computer will run hotter than normal neways.

Posted by Turbonium on Jun-30-2003 03:51:

stk, here are what some of my buds down at futuremark.com said... Sorry it's not much, they don't tend to be as helpful as tehy used to be, but whatever...

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trial and error. thats what overclocking is all about.

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Lowering Timmings ussaly doesnt do anything at all if the memory can only handle 2.5 and such. You might get a few more mb/s but thats it. Overclocking is a matter of ram speed and he should be able to over clock with that speed

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Crucial is quality stuff so he should be able to do more aggressive timings. Like they say just the luck of the draw. Tell him to try it. If it doesn't work just step back the timings some.

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Looks like I was wrong about Crucial sucking. But still, Corsair owns it without a doubt. Gotta love those Winbond chips .

Posted by BTG on Jun-30-2003 07:13:

i dun even know wtf is going on.

this is odd to me.

Posted by stk on Jun-30-2003 07:21:

thx guys, well as in OCing, crucial aren't the best, i tried the most aggressive settings at 2-2-2-6 and when i started windows, it crashed..the best i could do was i set the 2.5 cas setting to 2.0, which made almost no difference, LOL... anyways I'm thinking of investing in 2x pc3200 256 corsair rams, the one that has pre-installed heat spreaders, was thinking about 512 , but thats overkill aint it?

I have an ati 9500 np 64 megs though, DOH! i guess i won't be able to OC it to 9700 pro...

Posted by UWM on Jun-30-2003 07:21:

Is this Klingon?

Posted by Kailya on Jun-30-2003 14:45:

No, actually it's borg.

Posted by yujie__ on Jun-30-2003 15:18:

Everything on my PC is OC, the ram at 180 25-3-3-6, 9700np at 385/295 infinion 3.3ns ram really really sucks but the card is sweet, athlon xp 1.47 1700+ @ 2.11 2600+ (10x211), and 8 80mm fans

Never mixed different brand of ram cause it sucks