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Posted by dj osiris on Jun-29-2003 18:02:

Americans the Biggest Freaks Out there

All right im gonna piss ALOT of people off with this but keep an open mind without bias for this. well anyways here it is I just saw bowling for columbine and doing some traveling internationally ( Canada, united states, brazil, Argentina, England , Spain and Amsterdam in a few months) I can seriously say that there is something wrong in America. Everyone�s afraid of everyone. Almost all the Americans I meet are stuck up putting down every other country they see as being "violent" or "disgusting" when they haven�t even taken the time to look at there own country. Im not saying all Americans are like this but allot of them are... They go on saying things like "oh we suffer terrorist actions that kill thousands of our people which gives us the right to invade other countries to protect our people" but in the world nowadays there are more people being killed every day from wars and terrorists actions outside the united states and they don�t go around using it as justification to attack other countries. No other country that I know of has gone against the wishes of a majority of UN nations and entered a country violently without true reason. Anyways im getting off the point. Before Americans go around judging other countries look at your own
btw i have fixed the spelling on this since its such a big deal to you guys


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-29-2003 18:32:

well said my friend , i also suggest to all my american TA fellows to read Stupid White Men from M. Moore to know more about the reality


Posted by TranceGiant on Jun-29-2003 18:58:

damn you guyz
ive experienced american tourists as super-friendly and curious, granted a bit naive but definitely ready to socialize etc.
this moore guy is definitely washing too many innocent brains im afraid


Posted by moncster on Jun-29-2003 19:19:

I am sorry my president is an idiot. I did not vote for him.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-29-2003 19:38:

kind of agree... the americans (i know) think US is everything in the world... If bin ladin kill 3000 in US a whole nation is terrified and start wars here and there. I bet very few of you americans know that during the last five years there have been a very bloody war in kongo with over 5 miljon people dead (2800 per day)! EU troops are now down there to help the UN troops but as far as I know there is no us troops... US don't fucknig care if the president don't benefit from sending troops there and the president doesn't benefit if the american people doesn't care....


Posted by RWC0412 on Jun-29-2003 19:41:

I was watching TV yesterday and the Democrats were holding some kind of convention and they were saying how they need to get Bush out of office before he screws things worse up and they were saying how we need a change in power and all this stuff, the way they were speaking just sounded like a strong revolt! it was awesome,


Posted by Az on Jun-29-2003 19:54:

yup


Posted by Lost Inhibition on Jun-29-2003 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
I am sorry my president is an idiot. I did not vote for him.



im sorry too. i second that. we dont all have that "invade before they invade us" mentality. a great deal of us want to keep international relationships open and happy.... sigh.....


Posted by fuct4less on Jun-29-2003 20:10:

poor osiris, it seems like youve only met the arrogant, brainwashed americans, you know the bush supporters. i am an american and i do agree with what youre saying because most of us ARE fucked up, but dont say that all americans are fucked cuz their are people in this country (like me) who absolutely hate the current state, but cant do much about it because theyre lacking in the financial department.


Posted by pumavisor808 on Jun-29-2003 20:11:

There's a reason there's a political discussion forum on the board.... Maybe you should try posting this there... If I wanted to read about people rambling there opinions this is where you should go

here's the link in case you can't find it...
political discussion

This is the chill out room last I checked...


Posted by joeh on Jun-29-2003 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
damn you guyz
ive experienced american tourists as super-friendly and curious, granted a bit naive but definitely ready to socialize etc.
this moore guy is definitely washing too many innocent brains im afraid



American tourists are not friendly... seriously - they come to a different country and within hours are ready to start arguements with people doing things differently than are done in america.

A friend of mine was on holiday in germany - in a coffee shop - and some american tourist comes in shouting something like "Where is such-and-such cathedral - I bombed it to bits in the war and want to go and see it", he failed to realise that after 50 odd years they might have built something in its place.

In short, american tourists are rude and unfriendly - in america people are friendly - but only because they want the 15% tip, which if you dont pay they get very nasty about!


Posted by mndeg on Jun-29-2003 20:19:

i dont think the movie is realistic especially with the gun thing, but we have low morals here
yay especially on the west coast


Posted by TranceGiant on Jun-29-2003 20:21:


Posted by mndeg on Jun-29-2003 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
kind of agree... the americans (i know) think US is everything in the world... If bin ladin kill 3000 in US a whole nation is terrified and start wars here and there. I bet very few of you americans know that during the last five years there have been a very bloody war in kongo with over 5 miljon people dead (2800 per day)! EU troops are now down there to help the UN troops but as far as I know there is no us troops... US don't fucknig care if the president don't benefit from sending troops there and the president doesn't benefit if the american people doesn't care....


if its not on the tv (news) then people dont know/care
its all about publicity and the mainstream

applies to trance too


Posted by pumavisor808 on Jun-29-2003 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
American tourists are not friendly... seriously - they come to a different country and within hours are ready to start arguements with people doing things differently than are done in america.

A friend of mine was on holiday in germany - in a coffee shop - and some american tourist comes in shouting something like "Where is such-and-such cathedral - I bombed it to bits in the war and want to go and see it", he failed to realise that after 50 odd years they might have built something in its place.

In short, american tourists are rude and unfriendly - in america people are friendly - but only because they want the 15% tip, which if you dont pay they get very nasty about!


I was going to write a big long answer to this, but I'm not going to waste my time....
Maybe they want a tip because that's all they get paid?? Get over it.


Posted by ilovetrance2k3 on Jun-29-2003 20:39:

im not scared of everyone, but i can see your point of view based on who you met that were americans, there are a lot of stuck up people, but also, there are a lot that arent, which is cool


Posted by joeh on Jun-29-2003 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by pumavisor808
I was going to write a big long answer to this, but I'm not going to waste my time....
Maybe they want a tip because that's all they get paid?? Get over it.


And because they dont get paid anything else its fine for them to be rude to people who arent willing to give them $5 to use one of the 10 taxis parked outside the hotel


Posted by Citizen X on Jun-29-2003 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
i also suggest to all my american TA fellows to read Stupid White Men from M. Moore to know more about the reality



That's a very good book. After this book I realized how unaware I was of everything. It made me feel as if I was brainwashed all this time.


Posted by Neo nEro on Jun-29-2003 21:15:

My god there have already been threads about Bowling for columbine. You people that think that you have some sort of great insight after watching one fucking movie and doing some sight seeing.


i was considering actually responding to your post but i am not going to waste my time.

quote:
befor americans go around judgeing other countrys look at your own

maybe you should??


Posted by davinox on Jun-29-2003 21:17:

What bullshit!!!

Every free and civilized country has their own ups and downs, their own problems; countries are different!

People need to learn to accept others differences. I've heard people talk shit about almost every country, what, Americans are so bad, go look at your own countrymen! Oh, they are angels, sure.

Any non-oppressive country has just as many good qualities as another.

I could post a thread about all the bad things about French people, and my girlfriend is french. Likewise, I could do the same for America, for Britian, for Mexico, jesus, you think America is the bane of the world?

EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS FAULTS.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS PEOPLE!


Posted by Orbax on Jun-29-2003 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
What bullshit!!!

Every free and civilized country has their own ups and downs, their own problems; countries are different!

People need to learn to accept others differences. I've heard people talk shit about almost every country, what, Americans are so bad, go look at your own countrymen! Oh, they are angels, sure.

Any non-oppressive country has just as many good qualities as another.

I could post a thread about all the bad things about French people, and my girlfriend is french. Likewise, I could do the same for America, for Britian, for Mexico, jesus, you think America is the bane of the world?

EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS FAULTS.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS PEOPLE!


Word, and if you dont live here its kinda hard to comment on American Life...a book and a movie arent exactly what your opinion should be based on. Schindlers List and Mein Kompf wouldnt exactly let me know what Germany is like.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-29-2003 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Word, and if you dont live here its kinda hard to comment on American Life...a book and a movie arent exactly what your opinion should be based on. Schindlers List and Mein Kompf wouldnt exactly let me know what Germany is like.


No Schindlers List and Mein Kompf won't let you know what german life is like, it will let you know how german where 50 years ago!


Posted by Az on Jun-29-2003 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by davinox

EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS FAULTS.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS PEOPLE!

everyone else doesn't have as many, and they aren't as stupidly obvious


Posted by Az on Jun-29-2003 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
No Schindlers List and Mein Kompf won't let you know what german life is like, it will let you know how german where 50 years ago!

but they think nothing has changed


Posted by Psionic on Jun-29-2003 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
well said my friend , i also suggest to all my american TA fellows to read Stupid White Men from M. Moore to know more about the reality



Really great book, too bad the conservative *white dumbasses cough* pricks on capitol hill can't get a clue.


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