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Anyone watch Dateline last night...(GHB)

Last night on Dateline they did a special about this Dad who got hooked on GHB. He was completely out of it- convulsing, sweating, in his own world entirely. His poor kids, who were 10 & 13, documented the course of his addiction while he was at home on video. (He's in jail now for DRIVING on the shite...)

Anyway, my boyfriend and I were thinking that they should document people on all hard drugs- picture someone on Ecstacy rolling their ass off- and show it to kids at about 11 or 12 years old. From our reaction to Dateline last night, I think this would seriously decrease hard drug use amounst kids when they get a bit older. It would scare them straight if nothing else...

Any opinions?

yeah... you dont realize how fucking stupid you look when you are rolling...

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Originally posted by butterfly yeah... you dont realize how fucking stupid you look when you are rolling...

What's so stupid looking about having a baby pacifier in your mouth, candy necklaces, vicks under your nose, a dust mask around your neck, and heart/star ornaments on your viser?

Its getting banned here very soon.

5 year prison sentance for possession.

Saying that you could technically get life in prison for giving a friend esctacy (not that would ever happen).

I completely disagree with shows like Dateline and 20/20, when they do these indepth stories about drugs and abuse. They mainly are scare tactics and only work on few viewers. The problem is that if kids watch this without their parent explaining what is happening, then they are just more curious to try it out.

Everyone remembers when Dateline did their "special" on raves and exstacy. Well, it lead to more people going and the rave scence getting pushed into the general culture. The more the goverment uses scare tactics, the more they raise awareness to kids would not of even cared until it appeared on TV.

What do we need to do you might ask?

The government should A) Start helping those who are addicted to chemicals nore, instead of treating them like a disease, B) Give parents better tools to address strong issues.

It should always start from the home I believe. I plan to nuture my kids when I have them and talk to them about anything they want, this way I don't have to scare them from not doing something.

Ok, this is way long.

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Originally posted by QuickStep I completely disagree with shows like Dateline and 20/20, when they do these indepth stories about drugs and abuse. They mainly are scare tactics and only work on few viewers. The problem is that if kids watch this without their parent explaining what is happening, then they are just more curious to try it out. Everyone remembers when Dateline did their "special" on raves and exstacy. Well, it lead to more people going and the rave scence getting pushed into the general culture. The more the goverment uses scare tactics, the more they raise awareness to kids would not of even cared until it appeared on TV. What do we need to do you might ask? The government should A) Start helping those who are addicted to chemicals nore, instead of treating them like a disease, B) Give parents better tools to address strong issues. It should always start from the home I believe. I plan to nuture my kids when I have them and talk to them about anything they want, this way I don't have to scare them from not doing something. Ok, this is way long.

Well I think that part of the purpose of the show is to educate parents about stuff like this so they could possibly educate their kids. However, shows like these do over-dramatisize the risks or the danger to get better ratings, which leads to parents being unrelenting/iron-fisted with their kids, which leads to more kids rebelling. I dunno, dateline and 20/20 do have some good stories on corruption and the like.

theyre just trying to prevent kids from doing drugs. . . .i dont have a problem with taht.

I'm not taking away the fact that they at least address the issue, instead of hiding it.

I just think we need to educate parents better, and then provide tools for them to teach their kids. The media is the last person that I want educating my kids about drugs and alcohol.

screw it, I'm moving to Canada

I didn't get a chance to catch the episdoe of Dateline, but I'm sure it was...well...trippy. Also, I agree with Occrider. Candy Kids are SO dumb, they're just absolutely ridiculous.
I know if my mom watched that Dateline, she would have taken away all my trance CD's and stuff. She's been on to me about Ecstacy and clubbing ever since I started listening to trance!!!

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 I didn't get a chance to catch the episdoe of Dateline, but I'm sure it was...well...trippy. Also, I agree with Occrider. Candy Kids are SO dumb, they're just absolutely ridiculous. I know if my mom watched that Dateline, she would have taken away all my trance CD's and stuff. She's been on to me about Ecstacy and clubbing ever since I started listening to trance!!!

How can you listen to trance when you're missing the U of PLUR??? We must be united with the candy kids in order for the scene as a whole to exist and prosper!

Oh well, I can respect their right look as silly as they want to be but there's no way in hell I'm lovin it.

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Originally posted by occrider How can you listen to trance when you're missing the U of PLUR??? We must be united with the candy kids in order for the scene as a whole to exist and prosper! Oh well, I can respect their right look as silly as they want to be but there's no way in hell I'm lovin it.

haha, for a second there I thought you were correcting me on my spelling, but then I realized you were talking about P.L.U.R.
Yeah, if Kandy Kids weren't around, then there would be no reason for mainstream dickheads to make fun of trancers!!

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Originally posted by occrider How can you listen to trance when you're missing the U of PLUR??? We must be united with the candy kids in order for the scene as a whole to exist and prosper!

I hate candy kids. They are the ones that fuck alot of shit up. I hate going to a venue and seeing all these lite brite looking kids. They claim they are about peace love unity and respect... heh. its more like "lets get some E or LSA and drop that." If people are here for the music... it shouldnt take drugs to like it.

Why do i have a problem with candy kids? b/c one that i dated almost got me killed.

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Originally posted by occrider What's so stupid looking about having a baby pacifier in your mouth, candy necklaces, vicks under your nose, a dust mask around your neck, and heart/star ornaments on your viser?

ppl will dress like really weird to get attention



seriously: i didnt see the show, but these weekly news shows are dumb as hell. I'm sure their doing an expose next week on the dangers of chewing bubble gum.

wasnt that drug called GHP and not GHB?

btw, that little kid in the earlier half isnt half as bad as my 5 year old sister.

some girl where i live got ghb'd and died. note that none of the ppl at this party were from where i live but it made national news.

my 2nd cousin died from ghb.. they dont know if he was using it or if he was drugged by someone else

isnt ghb used for daterape?

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Originally posted by joeh152 Its getting banned here very soon. 5 year prison sentance for possession. Saying that you could technically get life in prison for giving a friend esctacy (not that would ever happen).

Is that true?
Isn't ecstacy use very "popular" in England?
If so, then I would think that the consecuenses of those laws would not be benificial for the government nor the people in any way... I mean 5 year sentence only for possession!!! That's way too much, mainly because you aren't hurting anybody besides yourself while rolling.
but who am I anyway...

In some parts if the US, like New Jersey, you can get 2 years per pill is you get caught.

That's extreme. I'm not sure how to feel about strict consequences for drug posession. On the one hand, I do drugs myself so that would be hypocritical. On the other, I've only done one drug in my life (no it's not weed, it's E), so I don't have the right to judge other drug users.

I hate GHB, I hate what it does, I hate "popularity" of it in the US clubs, I hate the reasons for using it.

I had two friends pass out in clubs, go into convulsions, get thrown onto the street by the bouncer, left to die, have thier hearts jumped started by EMCs, and wake up in the hospital. The ironic part about this is that they still do GHB every weekend, but looks down on me doing E occasionally. hahha.

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The ironic part about this is that they still do GHB every weekend, but looks down on me doing E occasionally.

Dude, your friends are fucked up. G has a huge reaction/dosage ratio, and it completely goes ga ga when mixed with alcohol.

Never done G, never want to. Read up on it, simply not interested. IMO E is 'safer', and i have researched it, (yes i know no drug is safe, but painting them all with the same brush is like saying all cartoons are for kids).

I saw some interesting article about GHB on mixmag july 2003 issue.
you should check this out. its pretty f*cked up story.

I heard that the in the UK, they rehabilitate their drug offenders after they serve a relatively light prison sentence. I wish they dealt with it the same way in the US. It makes a lot more sense than throwing guys with a couple pills on them in jail for 20 years and then having them sit in prison doing more drugs and them turning them back loose to society again.

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Originally posted by Christopher B I heard that the in the UK, they rehabilitate their drug offenders after they serve a relatively light prison sentence. I wish they dealt with it the same way in the US. It makes a lot more sense than throwing guys with a couple pills on them in jail for 20 years and then having them sit in prison doing more drugs and them turning them back loose to society again.

i think some states in the US has it.
cal has prop 36(i cannt remember) that let you choose wheather you go jail or do some rehab thing.
my gf just done it for possession of e and k and weed(she covered up for me) and being under the influence of acid(this was her only time that she did acid)
i also had done some rehab thing for my DUI of e(i dont do this anymore)

The reality is that GHB is the safest recreational drug there is (at a reasonable dose), safer than alcohol or whatever.
On paper, GHB is about as bad for your body as water, the compound itself is non-toxic, and clears the body completely in a matter of hours. It metabolizes into small amounts of carbon dioxide and water, which are both obviously non-toxic.

The problem is that PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO USE IT. You must know the exact concentration and your tolerance or you're taking a huge risk. Would you pop an E that might have either 100mg or 3000mg of MDMA?? I dont think so...

there are always gonna be stupid people ruining everything out there. I just got done watching some stupid thing about the dangers of trick or treating. Its just that the media and politics tell parents they are gonna ban it rather educate any1 on anything. Any drug is bad when taken by a complete moron. It is truly sad to hear about the cases where girls get drugged and raped though. But shifting back to wat i was saying, the scare tactics arent gonna stop. Thats wat gets the votes and ratings. And its even more sad how people buy it without giving it any other thought. "THE TV IS ALWAYS RIGHT!"

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