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the Gemini CDJ-20, opinions?
what do you guys think of this CD deck? seems nice, anyone ever
used it? info would be appreciated...
GEMINI CDJ-20
With 10-40 seconds anti-shock buffer memory and instant start. Top-loading a large jog wheel for easy hands-on, digital output, pitch bend, direct access to track or cue point, cue to music, and precision frame-accurate search. It gives you variable pitch control (+/-16%), three time-display modes (disc remain, track remain, and time elapsed). Single auto-cue and continuous-play function, and forward and reverse stutter. Top loading Jog wheel Digital output Pitch bend 10-40 second switchable anti-shock Direct access to track or cue point Instant start (0.015 seconds) One-bit 8X linear oversampling Cue to music Precision frame accurate search Variable pitch control Three time-display modes (disc remain, track remain, and time elapsed) Single auto-cue/continuous-play function Frame-accurate search Forward and reverse stutter
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taken from djgear.com anyone have any expirience with them?
Gemini has a reputation in making bad CD players, BUT, the CDJ20 is an exception. Of cource, it's not as good as the CDJ100s from pioneer, but, for the price you pay for it, it's a pretty good machine... BUT, If i was you, I'd save up a little more and get the CDJ100s
dont buy it. Save money and get a cdj800 or a cdj1000. It will be worth your money.
<---- agrees
copuld you recommend any dual cd player, you know, so we could
invest in a dual CD player that has its integrated crossfader,
so no mixer is needed...
[edit]: this looks like a great idea:
http://www.djgear.com/nucdmix1djst.html
I'm no big fan of dual cd players...
dude, this is just stuff to play around with, sure i know,
its better to get better equipment, but we barely can afford
anything. even if youre not a big fan, is that a decent product?
no, that numark CD deck is crap. if you are going to get dual CD players, don't get ones with an integrated mixer, it will severly limit you upgrade cababilities.
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| Originally posted by JohnSmith no, that numark CD deck is crap. if you are going to get dual CD players, don't get ones with an integrated mixer, it will severly limit you upgrade cababilities. |
get one of the pioneers or the new denon beast!
or a cheaper version is the new axis 9!
newer version of the cd decks in the pic above!
they look quality!
I think he's looking for something cheap and would cover both cd players and mixer....Obviously the Denon or Pioneers would be the best options but they don't fit into most people's budgets, especially if you're starting out.
OK, I can honestly say without total shame that I have personally owned 2 Gemini CDJ-20s for 2 years (and still do), so you can take my opinion on them seriously, unlike some who have never once touched them and who will just give you the default, "Gemini sucks, buy Pioneer" dogma.
It's been an odd relationship that I've had with my trusty little CD players. One of the CDJ-20's has worked without ANY problems for two years straight. Unlike turntables, which can work exactly how they're suppose to but still suck due to low torque or high wow and flutter, with CD players, basically they either work or they don't work. And one of my CDJ-20's has always, without exception, worked. It starts instantly, lets me set my cue point without any hassles, changes pitch easily, and plays retail CD's and CD-R's just fine.
Now the other CDJ-20 is a whole other story. About 4 months after getting it, it began to freeze without warning while playing CD's. I'd be right in the middle of recording a set, and *bam!* dead silence. It had a three year warranty, so I got on the phone with Gemini and asked that it be repaired. Sure enough, I mailed it out to them and six to eight weeks later I was shipped back my "repaired" CDJ-20. After about 20 minutes of playing on it, it froze up again. Needless to say, after putting off practicing on my own CD players for almost 2 months, I was less than happy. The next day I was on the phone with Gemini again and I requested that they replace my broken CD player instead of repairing it again. They agreed and off went the CDJ-20 into the US Postal service's arms. Aother six to eight weeks later, I received a refurbished CD-20. This one worked well for about a week, and for that one week, I genuinely thought my problems were over. After that one week, however, the refurbished CD player began to have the same problems as my old player. I was furious with Gemini and I couldn't believe that I hadn't DJed for nearly 4 months because of poorly made equipment and non-existent "repair" services. Finally, I called Gemini for the last time and demanded a brand new, non-refurbished, non-repaired, never been opened CDJ-20. I shipped out my broken CDJ-20 and six to eight weeks later, I recieved...nothing. I called Gemini and asked them, "Where is my new CDJ-20?" They claimed that I hadn't shipped them my broked CDJ-20, and that they needed to see a tracking number. After two months, most people would have probably lost the small piece of paper the post office gives you when you ship a package, leaving them with no evidence of their shipment, and basically no way to ever get Gemini to mail them the CD player. Quite respctable of Gemini to try to get out of ever shipping me a CDJ-20, no? Luckily for me, I did have the tracking number and I used the UPS website to see that, sure enough, my broken CDJ-20 arrived at Gemini headquarters and was signed for less than a week after I first mailed it out. I had called their bluff, so to speak, and about a month later I recieved a brand new CDJ-20. It's been a year and it's worked just as perfectly as the other that has worked fine for the past two years.
So can I recommend Gemini CDJ-20's? Well, not really. When they work, they work fine and all is well, but there's no guarantee at all that they will work well. You will certainly save money by getting the CDJ-20's, but you take a fairly real risk that you will get poorly made equipment. As much as I hate to admit it, I'd save up the extra money and get Pioneer CDJ-100's or even one of the much higher end Pioneer's or Denon's.
OK, I hope that helps your decision, sorry for giving you my life story, but I just wanted to be entirely honest.
^^ good answer!
that pretty sums up what i THOUGHT would be the case based on the price/brand/availability of this product. i too am looking for a third cd deck to supplement my two turntables, mainly for playing hard to get tunes, or unreleased stuff.
anyway good post.
simple answer get the CDJ 100s
pioneer 100000x > gemini
Gemini = P O S!!!
Gemini is so bad, we simply refuse to carry their line of products, way too many returns and customer complaints.
Your cheapest and still very decent set up will look like this:
2 Numark Axis 2 CD Turntables at $199.95 each
and a Behringer VMX200 for $119.95
total b4 "discount" USD just about $520.00 plus shipping and any applicable taxes. pm me for "discount price" Cheers....
wow, THANKS YOU GUYS! hehe, you guys really shed some light
on this for me. im not getting this system for myself, it is
for a friend, with his money. id love to get my own equipment,
but, well, i dont have ANY money to spare. my friend knows shit
about this, and i know just a bit more than him. hehe. you guys
are great. benefits me if he does get a good system, because i
will be hijacking it from time to time. thanks again, especially
to Stasis for the user insight...
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