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Does your office have a view?

I had a handful of people ask me if I took the picture in my Sig file. I did in fact take the picture...and although I wish it was some hot babe, or the girl next door...it's simply my office...and I have to think I have the best corner office view in the world. The view changes constantly, and it's never the same two days in a row. Sure there is work involved...sometimes, but it's hard to believe I get paid to fly people around. Kinda like spinning music for a club I guess...they hand you a check to have fun!



A smattering of photos druing a nice sunday 'drive' in the Pacific Northwest can be found HERE.

So, is there anyone else out there that has an office with a view?

Cool, but scary job when you think of it. Just think of what you're actually doing, and you'll know what I mean. eek!

Oh man, I must agree, breathtaking views u have there !!

But, I dont think I could do that since I hate heights

NIce. How old of a pilot are you?

Man I would like to know your monthly salary, should be huge!

To answer questions:
I'm 26...been flying for 10 years and with the airline for over 3.
Pay is good...but there is a big misconception in what we make when we start out. When I started I made US$8.76/hour (18,240/yr). Having 3 years in (and a new contract) I'll push about 40K. A 20 year Jet captain makes about 120,000 here. So, put your time in...and you are very comforatable. But starting out...you qualify for government assistance/wellfare. And just to get here, you are lucky to make 7000 to 8000 a year instructing, flying rubber dog crap, to build flight time...and that's after 100,000 in college/training. So, there is a sacrifice...that pays off in time.

If you move up to a major airline, and stay for 20-30 years, you used to be able to make 200,000 ...again with lots of time in...but with big paycuts and trimming back it's a thing of the past. Airlines like, United, American, Air Canada...took upwards of 25% cuts across the board. Still plenty of money...as long as you don't/didn't go blow it on luxury...

So, I'm quite comforatable...but not rich...I don't have a better half to take all money...so there is a benefit to being single Still...I can't believe they pay me to fly...cept when the weather is crappy....but even that beats driving in traffic...now that's scary.

Always happy to entertain questions...
cheers

3rd floor MCDB

PhloTron.. seriously nicely dun on the career there, isnt flying safer than driving??

Id do it jst for those views... u listen to trance in ur cockpit??

I have a shite view, 6th floor looking stright onto the black marble surface of the building next to mine to the far rite i can see the sky above the next building so thats a bit better (id prefer to b in a plane though)

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Originally posted by PhloTron To answer questions: I'm 26...been flying for 10 years and with the airline for over 3. Pay is good...but there is a big misconception in what we make when we start out. When I started I made US$8.76/hour (18,240/yr). Having 3 years in (and a new contract) I'll push about 40K. A 20 year Jet captain makes about 120,000 here. So, put your time in...and you are very comforatable. But starting out...you qualify for government assistance/wellfare. And just to get here, you are lucky to make 7000 to 8000 a year instructing, flying rubber dog crap, to build flight time...and that's after 100,000 in college/training. So, there is a sacrifice...that pays off in time. If you move up to a major airline, and stay for 20-30 years, you used to be able to make 200,000 ...again with lots of time in...but with big paycuts and trimming back it's a thing of the past. Airlines like, United, American, Air Canada...took upwards of 25% cuts across the board. Still plenty of money...as long as you don't/didn't go blow it on luxury... So, I'm quite comforatable...but not rich...I don't have a better half to take all money...so there is a benefit to being single Still...I can't believe they pay me to fly...cept when the weather is crappy....but even that beats driving in traffic...now that's scary. Always happy to entertain questions... cheers

arent you lucky to have a job right now? i hear a lot about how the commercial airline industry is seriously struggling and many qualified people are getting laid off and have nowhere to go in an oversaturated market....

and i have no view. i have to go for a walk to even get near a window.

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior 3rd floor MCDB [IMG]

Nice!


And Yes Butterfly, I would say it is nice to have a job right now...I talked cut backs before, but also thousands of pilots are out of jobs. I know several that made the jump to majors when the hiring was good. Many of them were able to jump to corporate flying, or get back on with a smaller carrier, but there are still out of work.

My company and our sister major have done pretty well throughout. We did furlough a handful of pilots for about 6 months, but have got them back, and hired a few more. Meanwhile Alaska hired throughout the year and we've grown slowly, but steadily. The effect of everything here (war on terror/sars) seems to be less since we are on the west coast, and we DO NOT fly overseas.

Honestly, it's just a crappy time to be in this industry...when things are good, they are great...when they are bad...it doesn't get much worse.

Oh...and I carry my Nomad mp3 around we get some 2 and 3 hour breaks at airports...so it gets pretty boring

Re: Does your office have a view?

I love Crater Lake. Man, I miss the Northwest. I'm glad to hear that you have a steady job. A few of my friends in Portland are amazing programmers, and worked for MS in Redmond.

Now they are struggling to make rent.

I'd have to say that the Northwest is the most beautiful area in the US. Good to see you happy man.

I have a cube with no windows, and a few bobble head dolls of "The Answer"

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Originally posted by PhloTron

THIS office?

dude i just graduated from high school, i think i want to be either accounting or pilot! but i heard accnt will take 5 years and their exams are fucking hard as shit. i just want to ask if its easy to be a pilot lol, how many years and what are the qualificationslol. thanks man

in front of me : computer papers books and magazines.

I turn around I see the cubicle behind me.


Talk about a view ....

quit yer bitching, at least you guys have respectable jobs

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Originally posted by whiskers quit yer bitching, at least you guys have respectable jobs

dude my job sucks j/k I get to spend all day with a headset on my head answering phone calls have customers bitching etc and when they're not on the phone I'm either reading stuff ( notice in previous msg I said comp magazines and books ) or talking to my fellow cubicle people

man I wish I could listen to music at work that'd be ill but cause of the phone orientation of the job it's impossible.

The thing I've hated about planes is:

A) My life is in the hands of the pilot. If he's crazy/decides to go suicide, or just sucks at flying, m life is in his/her hands. A car is in MY control, and even if other people driving around me can take me out, I still have that control factor and may be able to avoid something like that by reacting to it...

B) If a part of a plane fucks up, such as a wing, engine, wiring (spark), etc., you're most likely dead. With a car, no big deal, you just pull over. As long as it's not your tire blowing while you're going at 150km/h+ while doing a turn...

C) With a car, I'm grounded. With a plane, I'm not. Need I say more?

Don't get me wrong, I love planes, they are amazing machines. I've taken many flights in my life, anywhere from an hour long to 12+ hours long. And every time, before taking off, I've prayed to God to let me land safely at the destination.

P.S. I hate driving on highways, worse thing ever. I never go on useless roadtrips with my family, I always stay home. Half the reason is the highway. Some of you might think I'm nuts and that I'm not living my life cuz of risks, but no. I know life is full of risks, but why take unnecessary ones? There's so much stuff I haven't done in my life that I don't want that chance taken away because of (for example) a stupid 2-day roadtrip.

So you want to be a pilot, eh?

Well...there is always the military, but if you go civilian, there are a couple routes. A: Flying Degree at a University...the route I took. i.e. U. North Dakota, E. Riddle, Parks...etc. I went to UND, and majored in Air Transport. Did all my ratings with the school, top notch equipment/instructors. Tuition, Room/Board is very reasonable, but flight costs are elevated...alot. Riddle prolly cost even more, since it's private, while UND is public (and they have a good hockey team). Other schools may cost a little less...but expect the bill for EVERYthing to run +/- 100K.

The other civil route is to get your 4 year in anything (that's all airlines want is a 4 year...could be in basket weaving for all they care), and then do your flying through a Fixed Based operator...you know the local place at the airport. Definately less expensive, but probably less organized, less fancy equipment.

After you have your ratings you can flight instruct, and move up...maybe fly boxes and get multi engine time, and then meet requirements for airlines. Typical Entry Reqs are 1000-1200 Total Time, w/ 500 multi.

Is it easy...well if you like doing it, it's easy. Of course you study your tail off, are tested constantly, and then there is the FAA...sigh...always trying to take your ticket it seems...even though they are just doin their job. They uphold the rules...it's not like a cop letting you off with a freebie...it's serious business. And once you get to the airlines...you still study, you still get tested...over and over and over and over.

So, I did 4 years of college and 1 year of instructing..on my path to airline flying...I got in when the getting was good though. Right now, you are looking at an extra couple years of instructing and maybe some corp/box flying until you'll get the chance to go airline...hiring is slow, and remember you are now competing with people that are already airline pilots that lost their job. However, by the time you get your 4 year...things could be back on the up and up..and you could be in like flynn...that's the airline industry for you..it's a crap shoot.

Of course...you could be an accountant, wow....that's two different worlds. lol.

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Originally posted by Turbonium The thing I've hated about planes is: C) With a car, I'm grounded. With a plane, I'm not. Need I say more?

Grounded as in 'getting hit by lightning'?

If so, not really a big deal in an aircraft (in terms of effect on you/the plane)...everything discharges. You don't get electricuted and the plane doesn't explode. You may have to reset a generator, or blow off a panel, but other than the fact that it's REALLY LOUD AND BRIGHT..and scares the shit out of you...you just keep motoring along.

Been hit twice, and heard/seen 100 more... and we're all still ticking.

Oh...and the lightning ball floating down the isle...now that's freaky


Not bashin ya at all btw...flying just isn't for some people and I understand...I personally hate sitting in the back since I'm used to driving them...and I hate things like rollercoasters since I'm not in control...course that's what I'm trained to do...'control'

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Originally posted by PhloTron Grounded as in 'getting hit by lightning'? If so, not really a big deal in an aircraft (in terms of effect on you/the plane)...everything discharges. You don't get electricuted and the plane doesn't explode. You may have to reset a generator, or blow off a panel, but other than the fact that it's REALLY LOUD AND BRIGHT..and scares the shit out of you...you just keep motoring along. Been hit twice, and heard/seen 100 more... and we're all still ticking. Oh...and the lightning ball floating down the isle...now that's freaky Not bashin ya at all btw...flying just isn't for some people and I understand...I personally hate sitting in the back since I'm used to driving them...and I hate things like rollercoasters since I'm not in control...course that's what I'm trained to do...'control'

Haha, I didn't mean electrically, but anyway...

Well, I love flying when you get views like that of your sig, it's all trancy, you know... Maybe if I was flying the plane, and knew I could always eject safely, I would be more ok with it. But it's mainly the fact that I'm not in control of the plane myself... (and the plane screwing up and you being dead, regardless of your piloting skills).

Re: Does your office have a view?

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Originally posted by PhloTron I had a handful of people ask me if I took the picture in my Sig file. I did in fact take the picture...and although I wish it was some hot babe, or the girl next door...it's simply my office...and I have to think I have the best corner office view in the world. The view changes constantly, and it's never the same two days in a row. Sure there is work involved...sometimes, but it's hard to believe I get paid to fly people around. Kinda like spinning music for a club I guess...they hand you a check to have fun! So, is there anyone else out there that has an office with a view?

I am a groundpilot and boy do I love my job!

Vroom!!!

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Originally posted by PhloTron Still...I can't believe they pay me to fly...cept when the weather is crappy....

what r u talking about? the bad wheather and turbulence is the WAAAAy funiest part of flying My mom works at SAS so we fly regularly, i actually think that flying is one of the major fun things in life =D like when on the runway just before takeoff when the engines rev up and (if ur pilot aint a major wuzz =P) the pilot gives it a lot of gas and u get pushed back into the seat... just LOVELY!

PhloTron:

Those kittens in your avatar are being very naughty!!If you put them in your sig, you can blow up the rest of that pic.

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Originally posted by Xo|oX like when on the runway just before takeoff when the engines rev up and (if ur pilot aint a major wuzz =P) the pilot gives it a lot of gas and u get pushed back into the seat... just LOVELY!

LOL...yeah...I like to hold the brakes and crank up the torque...it's no fighter jet by any means...but there is a little rush when you crank and bank

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