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Posted by drizzt81 on Jul-18-2003 15:14:

trade a file - go to jail

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31800.html

Not satisfied with hacking P2P networks, or destroying the computers of file sharers, House Hollywood sock puppet Howard Berman (Democrat, California) is now sponsoring legislation that would jail people who trade as little as one MP3 on the Internet.

Posted by Victor Dinaire on Jul-18-2003 15:18:

im not for illegal file sharing

but

this is just one of many dumb laws imposed on this "free country"

Posted by pyro264jb on Jul-18-2003 15:18:

damm

This probaly will never happen

I hope....

Posted by Overseas on Jul-18-2003 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1
im not for illegal file sharing

but

this is just one of many dumb laws imposed on this "free country"

I think file sharing is all too easily dubbed "illegal". Is it actually illegal to share live DJ sets? Are those copyright protected at all? Many are recordings of radio broadcasts. Recording Radio broadcasts for personal use is not illegal. Is sharing such files non-commercially illegal then? Copying and sharing original tracks and CDs is another story, but many of us deal with live sets. Don't see anything wrong with that. In fact, I see it as a positive for DJs as that way they get much more exposure to many more people than otherwise possible. Would be interested in your view on that, Vic.

Posted by Overseas on Jul-18-2003 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb
damm

This probaly will never happen

not so sure about that. They may just sneak it into another bill. Witness the RAVE Act.

Posted by Victor Dinaire on Jul-18-2003 15:34:

im on the fence with this whole issue

on one side, i see the damage its doing to the industry. many jobs r lost (including mine) and the entire dance music industry is in major trouble and its causing a severe ripple effect. its starting to effect clubs, magazines, advertising etc.

on the other, i also see the tremendous amount of promotion. never before has this music been able to get out ot the masses like this before, its incredible. people have access to their favorite artists immediatly without waiting or having to buy a compilation with 10 bad tracks and only 1 or 2 good ones.

the music industry has to figure out a way to make consumers interested in buying music again. for the last 50 years, they were always 1 step ahead of us. they actualy fell behind now.

whatever the situation is, i dont agree with imposing another law threatening jail time. this country always does this. make a law so they can fine us and jail us. we need solutions, not punishments.

Posted by drizzt81 on Jul-18-2003 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Overseas
I think file sharing is all too easily dubbed "illegal". Is it actually illegal to share live DJ sets? Are those copyright protected at all?
didn't we have a discussion onthat in the germany forums?

quote:
Many are recordings of radio broadcasts. Recording Radio broadcasts for personal use is not illegal.
depends. if u use a device that circumvents the encryption of that radio broadcast, then it is illegal to record that.

quote:
Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1
the music industry has to figure out a way to make consumers interested in buying music again. for the last 50 years, they were always 1 step ahead of us. they actualy fell behind now.

the people are willing to pay for music. See apple's online music service. they have a ton of subscribers with TONS of download (paid for!!) with a relatively small song database.

quote:
whatever the situation is, i dont agree with imposing another law threatening jail time. this country always does this. make a law so they can fine us and jail us. we need solutions, not punishments.

the problem is that this market isn't dynamic anymore. Due to the huge amount of consolidation in the music distribution business, there are too few players that any of them are willing to try anything new. I mean, there are like five or so companies that own more than 80% of all music copyrights. They have missed the train and are trying to stop it, instead of jumping onto it.

Posted by holycow24 on Jul-18-2003 16:19:

I have many problems with the mp3 issue, including mixed feelings about what's okay and what's not when it comes to sharing music, but I have one major bone to pick with this proposal:

What if you are the copyright owner of the song? Are they going to arrest me for sending out my own music to my friends? Or for encouraging others to share mp3s of my music with each other?

Ugh. What a mess.

Posted by Stassi on Jul-18-2003 17:02:

This law hasn't passed yet and it probably will never pass.

Posted by drizzt81 on Jul-18-2003 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by holycow24
What if you are the copyright owner of the song? Are they going to arrest me for sending out my own music to my friends? Or for encouraging others to share mp3s of my music with each other?

Do you get arrested for taking a sledgehammer and wrecking your own car?

that should answer your question.

Posted by drizzt81 on Jul-18-2003 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
This law hasn't passed yet and it probably will never pass.
of course not.. just like the RAVE act, DMCA etc.

let's stick our heads into the sand!

Posted by Vlad on Jul-18-2003 18:51:

My opinion about this is, its just another way to blame a failing economy on people.