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Posted by dJohn on Jul-20-2003 03:37:

Can't get a single transition

Fucking dammit. Tried to record AGAIN today(this is probably the 7th time I've tried to record), and I fail again.
It's weird...everytime I spin for fun, I get the transitions right...beats are on, phrases are perfectly lines up, and EQing is just right. But when I try to spin the same set again, I LAWYS fuck up on one transition, and the rest don't sound too perfect either...something is always wrong with my mixes...either the beats slide and trainwreck(thanks to my fucking 1200s...the pitch flutters alot, so I always have to constantly adjust the BPM WHILE I'm transitioning, which is nearly impossible to do), or I miss a beat that I'm cued on, therefore, I miss a whole phrase.

What the fuck...will I ever get a mix properly recorded? It's so fucking tedious to spend another hour on the same exact god damn fucking set. Not to mention that it's not the "professional" things that I fuck up on, but rather it's the mere skill of beatmatching....every single one of my fucking transitions trainwreck...some bad, some very minimal but you can still hear em, and you DJs know...even a slight slip in beat is about as conspicous as the sun in the fucking dark.
Such a basic skill, yet I still can't get it. Does anybody else still have trouble beatmatching even after spinning for 2 years?

Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-20-2003 04:31:

honestly, what I do is just drink a beer or two to totally relax me. When you're recording, you're trying TOO hard to make everything perfect, and not having the fun that you normally do. A few beers will take that edge off and you can relax, instead of frantically trying to make everythign perfect, just because the 'record' light is on.

Posted by Devbert on Jul-20-2003 04:32:

John me amigo. How you do? You need to chill the fuck out. Sound like your stressin pretty bad. I'll be back in SD mid-august. Will talk. Saw Paul Oakenfold a week ago too. it was tight!

Posted by Haunted on Jul-20-2003 06:00:

its not your 1200's. its you

Posted by sebjr on Jul-20-2003 07:53:

1) get into the habit of recording everytime you switch on your decks

2) relax, drinking a few beers is a good idea

1200's shouldnt have any pitch flutter???

Posted by Mister_Michel on Jul-20-2003 10:43:

Just record every time, even when you're doing it for fun (which should be always). When it turns out to be a great set you won't have to do it all over again (and screw up)

Posted by Unknown DJ on Jul-20-2003 12:06:

well ive only just started mixing trance after listing to it for quite some time and most my mixes suck. what is trainwrecking? im finding it really hard to use the eq's during the mix. expecialy the bass change overs, whenever i do it it always sounds so obvious. i havent really got enuf records to do a massive set with yet anyway. never mind. three will turn up on my doorstep tomorow morning keep practising.

Posted by Nabistai on Jul-20-2003 12:57:

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ
well ive only just started mixing trance after listing to it for quite some time and most my mixes suck. what is trainwrecking? im finding it really hard to use the eq's during the mix. expecialy the bass change overs, whenever i do it it always sounds so obvious. i havent really got enuf records to do a massive set with yet anyway. never mind. three will turn up on my doorstep tomorow morning keep practising.

Trainwrecking is when your beats are off (the sound of a train driving over the rails - dumdum dumum dumdum). If you just started then you should focus on beatmatching once you can do that reasonably good, you can start focussing on the eq's and track selection.

Posted by Unknown DJ on Jul-20-2003 13:42:

so you think untill i can beatmatch perfectly i should leave the eq's alone all together?

Posted by mongeone on Jul-20-2003 14:26:

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so you think untill i can beatmatch perfectly i should leave the eq's alone all together?

i think its more like learning a language, each area will improve seperately but only to a certain extent and then you have to bring the other areas up to par and so on a so forth...so just keep on fiddling and sub consciously you will focus on certain areas and understand things but dont just focus on one thing in particular becasue from my experience its focusing that makes you fuck up.

Posted by Flash Bastard on Jul-20-2003 15:41:

Well in the begin i started recording stuff i was so freakin focus on my set that i tried so hard to make it sound ok
now i just relax like alot in here ... and no fucking deal if i screw it you will get change's enough just relax do what you have to do but don't think all the time it has to sound perfect the you will screw 4 sure

Posted by mikefasssy on Jul-20-2003 20:43:

that used to happen to me when i tried to record.

what happened was that when I planned to record etc I would fuck up, but when I would just be like enh why not record for a bit, i did really well.

don't stress yourself, do some drugs if thats your thing, or drink some beers....

Posted by Unknown DJ on Jul-20-2003 22:45:

or if you smoke, have a joint b4 hand. i did this a little while back and done the best set of my life. shame i lost the damn minidisk it was on.

BTW. i am NOT condoning the use of drugs.

Posted by Vert on Jul-20-2003 22:48:

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ
or if you smoke, have a joint b4 hand. i did this a little while back and done the best set of my life. shame i lost the damn minidisk it was on.

BTW. i am NOT condoning the use of drugs.

You probably thought that because of the drugs ..

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Posted by dcougar99 on Jul-21-2003 16:00:

I had this problem as well. Demo set after demo set the same thing... 1 or 2 song just a bit off. i know how you feel and it fukin sucks... but then i just said fuk the recording and then i would grab a few beers start to feel realy good (not to many just like 2 beers) and then i would go back to the decks and slam out the best set i ever spun without the recorder on. so this is what i did... i didnt record for about 2 months and just let go, had fun and didnt even think about that shit anymore... then one day i had my beers and hit the decks. sliped a MD in my MiniDisk and hit record... just put a set together of my new shit and hit evey mix... some good some great but they all were on. thats the only recorded mix that i have and now i spin out at a lounge/bar... oh yeah, dont change anything just because your spinnin out at a bar or for people... i still sit and drink a few beers with the people and then even end my set a little before they close the bar so i can go see what they think. i dont have the balls to ask the owner to record my sets yet! only because i know it would fuk me up... oh and it helps you DJ if your a perfectionist but sometimes it can realy piss you off. just go with it and dont think to much. good luck!