I need the 'official definition' of TRANCE???

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Posted by tranceaddict#1 on Jul-21-2003 04:15:

I need the 'official definition' of TRANCE???

Could someone please give me a definition ???

Posted by E.Sv on Jul-21-2003 04:17:

Mate I think you'll get at least 10 definitions... Trance is so different: progressive, epic/uplifting, techtrance, psy etc...
Let's ask experts in every subgenre here

Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Jul-21-2003 04:18:

trance ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trns)
n.
A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state.
Detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming.
A semiconscious state, as between sleeping and waking; a daze.

tr.v. tranced, tranc�ing, tranc�es
To put into a trance; entrance.

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[Middle English traunce, from Old French transe, passage, fear, vision, from transir, to die, be numb with fear, from Latin trnsre, to go over or across. See transient.]
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trancelike adj.

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Trance

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Trance

\Trance\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Tranced; p. pr. & vb. n. Trancing.] 1. To entrance.

And three I left him tranced. --Shak.

2. To pass over or across; to traverse. [Poetic]

Trance the world over. --Beau. & Fl.

When thickest dark did trance the sky. --Tennyson.

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Trance

\Trance\, v. i. To pass; to travel. [Obs.]

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Trance

\Trance\, n. [F. transe fright, in OF. also, trance or swoon, fr. transir to chill, benumb, to be chilled, to shiver, OF. also, to die, L. transire to pass over, go over, pass away, cease; trans across, over + ire to go; cf. L. transitus a passing over. See Issue, and cf. Transit.] 1. A tedious journey. [Prov. Eng.] --Halliwell.

2. A state in which the soul seems to have passed out of the body into another state of being, or to be rapt into visions; an ecstasy.

And he became very hungry, and would have eaten; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance. --Acts. x. 10.

My soul was ravished quite as in a trance. --Spenser.

3. (Med.) A condition, often simulating death, in which there is a total suspension of the power of voluntary movement, with abolition of all evidences of mental activity and the reduction to a minimum of all the vital functions so that the patient lies still and apparently unconscious of surrounding objects, while the pulsation of the heart and the breathing, although still present, are almost or altogether imperceptible.

He fell down in a trance. --Chaucer.

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Trance

n 1: a psychological state induced by (or as if induced by) a magical incantation [syn: enchantment, spell] 2: a state of mind in which consciousness is fragile and voluntary action is poor or missing; a state resembling deep sleep v : attract; cause to be enamored; "She captured all the men's hearts" [syn: capture, enamour, catch, becharm, enamor, captivate, beguile, charm, fascinate, bewitch, entrance, enchant]

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Posted by Lakerfan36 on Jul-21-2003 04:53:

A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state.
Detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming.
A semiconscious state, as between sleeping and waking; a daze.

Posted by moncster on Jul-21-2003 05:06:

/me ducks for the upcoming flame war.

Posted by E.Sv on Jul-21-2003 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
/me ducks for the upcoming flame war.

I don't think so... First poster didn't explain what type of definition he's looking for - trance music or overall trance

Posted by tranceaddict#1 on Jul-21-2003 05:48:

Ok!

I need a definition being both broad and specific for 'Trance' in a musical sense.

I love trance myself but others are arguing that their is no difference between it and techno for example!!!

Please help!

eg beats per minute or sound characteristics etc???

Posted by Psionic on Jul-21-2003 06:06:

trance - music that doesn't suck nor is manufactured for the sole purpose of making $$

Posted by tranceaddict#1 on Jul-21-2003 06:18:

Getting closer...

Posted by tranceaddict#1 on Jul-21-2003 06:20:

Re: I need the 'official definition' of TRANCE MUSIC???

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict#1
Could someone please give me a definition ???

Ok just in the musical sense - more the better...

Posted by udham on Jul-21-2003 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
trance - music that doesn't suck nor is manufactured for the sole purpose of making $$

Word.

Posted by Sid on Jul-21-2003 12:25:

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-21-2003 12:40:

Trance:
About 130-145bpm. (though may vary depending on the subgenre)
Mostly concentrating on the melodies and the breakdown/buildup.
Usually harmonic and multilayered.

Posted by eye_03 on Jul-21-2003 18:56:

yeah, agreed with ^^^

Posted by Lost Inhibition on Jul-21-2003 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict#1
Ok!

I need a definition being both broad and specific for 'Trance' in a musical sense.

I love trance myself but others are arguing that their is no difference between it and techno for example!!!

Please help!

eg beats per minute or sound characteristics etc???

..... yes of course....

Posted by chesco on Jul-21-2003 21:00:

it's what you make of it.

stop trying to define everything and just let music be what it is.

Posted by Lost Inhibition on Jul-21-2003 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
trance - music that doesn't suck nor is manufactured for the sole purpose of making $$

thats a silly statement. all types of music has its shit and all music can and will be made to make money. so you think paul van dyk and armin van buuren dont get money to spin records? umm if yah didnt know, love of music doesnt make the world go round. so dont kid yourself and believe those big name dj's when they say they arnt doing it for money.... lmao im sure the music is what gets them on planes to all those super clubs around the world

Posted by VaNFeCto on Jul-21-2003 23:38:

gay thread......

Posted by mndeg on Jul-22-2003 03:13:

Posted by Avro on Jul-22-2003 03:18:

Heres my def

I�ve been into trance for 10 years

this is for your typical epic trance because psy/goa heads would disagree

must be at least 137BPM to MAX 155BPM (any faster would be freeform or trancecore any less would be dance or house)

Trance that is at a slower BPM(70-110ish) is known as Ambiant Trance. Often with a very slow 4/4 straight or break beat. Very melody orientred but with that electronic or experimental feel to it. Chilling and meditation music. Very nice IMO

137bpm = airwave - escape from nowhere (trance/progressive trance)
150 bpm = Weirdo - Vinyl warning (Hard trance)
160+ bpm - jet set and plastic angel - lost in trance (trancecore)

MUST be melody based with a constant build up (progression)
amidst can be build ups and break downs

can be a steady build or roller coaster

must have harmonic melody layers (as was said)

This is where many will disagree...
Vocals... can have but not to the point where it�s a song about something. should not have a message of any sort, otherwise its
DANCE EURO CLUB DANCE etc. (will be debated im sure)

some vocals/lyrics are great, but really should be more about the sounds of the music itself.

It is very often regarded as todays classical music. and notice classical music is very melody driven with NO VOCALS.

musically it is different

there are many great trance songs with vocals, but once the vocals are too apparent or give a message of some sort IMO it becomes dance music. Not that there is anything wrong with dance music, im sure its great, but it cant be classed as DANCE.

PROGRESSIVE AND PROGRESSIVE TRANCE ARE DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!

I cant stress this enough.
MOST TRANCE IS PROGRESSIVE TRANCE BECAUSE IT HAS A PROGRESSION TO A BUILD

I cant believe how the definitions for progressive have changed over the years.

progressive is progressive is housy, technoy, not really melody based.

progressive trance is melody based.

If you are listening to a song that is melodic, emotional, and you think its progressive, chances are its progressive trance. If its 129 BPM chances are its house or dance - you see here is where it gets messy with the whats what stuff, but i don�t know what progressive is cause I don�t listen to it, but i do know what trance is and what isnt trance.

anything with the above description with a breakbeat is breakbeat trance. Or trancy breaks.

a housy melody can be in a breakbeat, but will likely be a lower BPM -as house can have melodies but is slower BPM.

TRANCE MUST EVOKE EMOTION

THERE CAN BE GOOD TRANCE AND BAD TRANCE

PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS AGREE AND DISAGREE ON WHAT IS A GOOD TRACK, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW THAT TRACK MAKES THAT PERSON FEEL.

A melody can be anything with more than one note working off another.

ie.[n] the perception of pleasant arrangements of musical notes
[n] a succession of notes forming a distinctive sequence; "she was humming an air from Beethoven"

Dance music and trance sound very much alike, but to me it seems that there is more seriousness and effort in trance. Less about being social and more about absorbing the music.

I will add more when I think of more. This doesnt mean im right, it is just what i consider trance. TRANCE IS MY LIFE AND I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY

Posted by Russian Crush on Jul-22-2003 05:34:

you should write a book......Trance for Dummies

save it somewhere for the next thread of this kind.

Posted by ASOT100 on Jul-22-2003 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Russian Crush
you should write a book......Trance for Dummies

save it somewhere for the next thread of this kind.

lol yea he's pretty good, nice explanation

Posted by Avro on Jul-23-2003 05:03:

Posted by BobbyV on Jul-23-2003 09:05:

Trance, like everyone has said, is a progressive style of music that works sort of like a novel. It has an opening, climax, and then it breaks down and ends. Now that you have an explanation of what it is, you should compare and contrast the genres so you fully understand what we're telling you. Listen to a DJ Irene CD, she often has a variety of genres on her mixes. She splits them up into groups of tracks. On her Audio Underground CD the first group is HARDCORE, the second group is HOUSE, and then she finishes the CD off with TRANCE. Listen to trance and you'll be addicted like the rest of us