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Posted by SgtFoo on Aug-03-2003 18:50:

Smiley DJ Senn'r HD280s -VS- Sony MDRV700DJ

I am now stuck between choices. I was originally gonna get the HD280s, but I've seen other cans and am reconsidering. Price isn't much of an object here, just keeping lower than $120 CDN.

If you know of any that are similar, but better or maybe better entirely, please post em!!!


Posted by Omegasox on Aug-03-2003 19:31:

I'd go with the Senn's or Pioneer, but you have to try them for yourself, headphones are a very individual purchase. Can't rely on others opinions too much.


Posted by reso on Aug-03-2003 19:36:

go with either the hd280 pro or the sony v6...
v700dj is a SHIT series, bloated bass...

trust me on this one


Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-03-2003 21:02:

Reso is right. SOny v6's ownnnnnnnn apparently and they're a really good price to match. I will prob get those...


Posted by Gluegun on Aug-03-2003 23:07:

I would go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro or the Sennheiser HD25, depending on your listening preferences and mixing style.


Posted by fzrr on Aug-03-2003 23:11:

Technics all the way!


Posted by conk on Aug-03-2003 23:22:

Pioneer HDJ-1000s


Posted by fishfish on Aug-04-2003 08:07:

go for technics(i have them) or go for the sennheiser hd25 - they are really superb cans!


Posted by Martin McG on Aug-04-2003 12:08:

get the senns HD25 not the nd 25sp


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-04-2003 17:52:

To those recommending the Technics or the HD 25:

Can't you see that the original poster had set a strict price limit of $120 CDN? The cans that you're recommending both cost well over his strict price cap. For example, the HD 25 costs about $250 to $300 CDN. (I assume that he lives in Canada.) And even the Technics costs close to $200 CDN.

Moreover, even the HD 280 Pro usually costs well over $120 CDN in Canada, because most Canadian retailers don't discount the HD 280's as deeply as U.S. retailers do. Heck, even the MDR-V700DJ costs about $200 CDN there.

With that price cap, you're really stuck between a rock and a hard place. $120 CDN roughly equals $70 to $75 USD. And that won't buy you much, in the way of good-sounding headphones.


Posted by SgtFoo on Aug-04-2003 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadySlim
To those recommending the Technics or the HD 25:

Can't you see that the original poster had set a strict price limit of $120 CDN? The cans that you're recommending both cost well over his strict price cap. For example, the HD 25 costs about $250 to $300 CDN. (I assume that he lives in Canada.) And even the Technics costs close to $200 CDN.

Moreover, even the HD 280 Pro usually costs well over $120 CDN in Canada, because most Canadian retailers don't discount the HD 280's as deeply as U.S. retailers do. Heck, even the MDR-V700DJ costs about $200 CDN there.

With that price cap, you're really stuck between a rock and a hard place. $120 CDN roughly equals $70 to $75 USD. And that won't buy you much, in the way of good-sounding headphones.


just to clear that price thing up... I'm able to ge the SennHD280s for 84.95 US, which is ~about~ $120 CDN


Posted by Vert on Aug-05-2003 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by conk
Pioneer HDJ-1000s


Agreed.

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Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-05-2003 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by conk
Pioneer HDJ-1000s


That 'phone is still waaaay over that $120 CDN cap; in fact, those Pioneers sell for more than $200 CDN.


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Aug-08-2003 08:27:

yeah im stuck between the same headphones....i meen i hear good things about both from people on this forum and with my friends so id really like to know the answer to this one.I am also tight on money


Posted by Gluegun on Aug-08-2003 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Realm
yeah im stuck between the same headphones....i meen i hear good things about both from people on this forum and with my friends so id really like to know the answer to this one.I am also tight on money


Which headphones? Pioneer, Technics, Sennheiser?


Posted by TwiloNYC on Aug-09-2003 06:14:

I got the V700s. Go with the Senns 'cause I'm not happy with the Sonys. Hard to mix with the 700s cause the mid range is too muddy and amplified. Only thing it has going for it is its looks.


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Aug-09-2003 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Gluegun
Which headphones? Pioneer, Technics, Sennheiser?


The Sony and the Sennheiser


Posted by Freak on Aug-10-2003 13:26:

Sennheisers break. lots. although they do sound good. You might find you spend more over the following year replacing bits than it would cost to buy a second pair.
If you are after sennheisers, then the HD25 (NOT 25sp) is the pair to get.These sound very good and are comfortable.

I use the sonys 5 nites a week and they are fantastic- although the technics rpdj1210s are also highly recommended.
Cant comment on the pioneer 1000 jobbys as i havent used them.

All down to personal choice really- but in my professional opinion, headphones is one thing you cant be cheap on.

MDR-V700DJ
technics rpdj1210
Sennheiser hd25

Three top pairs- you wont go wrong with any of those.


Posted by Alccode on Aug-13-2003 04:42:

If you are going with V700's, then you're bound for a tough time, because of the muddyiness of the sound.

I recommend Sony MDR-V6 or MDR-7506 (literally the same thing) because the sound is so much crisper. Although the V700's are good enough when mixing trance with a strong kick (i.e. uplifting and everything NOT psy), when you try mixing psytrance with V700's, it's hell because you can barely sense the kick. With the V6's, the sound is so utterly clean that your grandmother could mix with them (j/k).

On the other hand, the ONE downside to the V6 is the lack of swivel. This can be a huge inconvenience especially if you're the type that likes shoulder-to-ear mixing during transitioning, so you can quickly move the phone down and up to hear the overall sound on the monitors/system rather than one ear on the phones and one exposed, which does not give as accurate a portrayal of what's going on. And yet if you put on the headphones normally and expose an ear, it's a pain to keep moving them on and off, so this is quite the disadvantage. DO NOT OVERLOOK THIS, even with any non-swivel headphones! It might bite you later on when you plunk $200+ CAD on a pair of cans.

I'm not a huge fan of the Sennheiser HD-280 for DJ'ing (otherwise for home listening they ROCK) because they are just too big and clunky and you'll look like a dork while spinning. But seriously, their size does get a little in the way when performing the aforementioned shoulder-to-ear trick. Also, the fact that the cups are elongated, not round like the V700's, means that when doing shoulder-to-ear, the cup won't entirely fit over your ear, as it's positioned sideways in that situation, so you'll be left with an imperfect seal and a bit of an inconvenience. However, when wearing these headphones normally, this is an advantage as they TOTALLY encompass your ears; hence "circumaural" not like the V700's, which are supra-aural (pressing ON your ears), which causes MAJOR discomfort after an hour or two of prolonged use.

Another issue with the Senn's is that the headband tends to crack (or, they have cracked once on mine). However, the Sony's have this same problem -- in fact it's MUCH worse, because the plastic is much cheaper and more crack-prone. After a few months of use from my V700's, back when they were brand new, the right swivel cracked entirely; I managed to jury-rig it for a while, but eventually the left swivel was starting to crack as well, at which point I sent them in for servicing (they were still under warranty!), after which I was careful to extend the headbands to MAX, thereby reducing pressure on the swivel joints. Since then they haven't cracked (a year has passed at least).

You will hear a lot about the swivel-joints cracking on the V700's because it is indeed an issue about these 'phones.

The V6/7506, however, are built extremely well and are immensely durable -- you will NOT have to worry about build quality with them at all, except if for some reason you decide to drive a truck over them. However, be mindful of the lack of swivel -- if you forget, and you try to apply shoulder-to-ear, especially if you do it suddenly (from habit by using phones that do have swivel), they WILL crack at the joint. This is not a fault of the headphones, but a fault of you applying extreme abnormal pressure to the joints at an angle which they were not designed to withstand. There was a thread on this a long time ago here on TA where someone cracked their V6's in just this way. So be mindful.

As a "disclaimer" for my opinions, I do in fact own all three headphones mentioned in this "mini-review": Sony MDR-V700 DJ, Sony MDR-7506, and Sennheiser HD-280 Pro.

Happy hunting, and please don't discredit other great headphone models like HD-25 etc! Just be sure to do your research and know what you're getting into -- for reference, it took me 3 pairs of $200+ CAD headphones to finally find my 'babies', the 7506's.


Posted by DJ Thanatos on Aug-13-2003 22:56:

hey dude i have the hd-280 pros and they are amazing, having also used the sony's you are suggesting, i would definetly recommend the sennheisers.

Thanatos


Posted by Vortex_SA on Aug-13-2003 23:06:

i think its kinda easier to mix w. the 700s cos the mid is amped, the sound gets muddy only if u keep on bringing the volume up, if ur keeping the same volume its fine, actually i mixed w/ 700s and it sounded really a bit off and w/ other headphones i couldnt hear that...



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