What does PvD use his laptop for?

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Posted by TranceInMySoul on Aug-06-2003 18:40:

What does PvD use his laptop for?

I saw PvD at Amnesia and for his whole set he had a laptop computer powered up next to the main decks. It seemed like he was looking at it pretty much every song.

I'm curious... What does he use this for?

Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-06-2003 18:48:

maybe it's final scratch?

if dj craze says it's dope then it mizzle be da shizzle!

Posted by Alekos on Aug-06-2003 18:49:

Final Scratch!, and he uses to play songs that cannot be found on vinyl or maybe to play his new releases.

Posted by Devbert on Aug-06-2003 21:50:

I find it hard to believe that PVD himself would undercut the music industry and start using final scratch! I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it.

Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-06-2003 22:05:

it's not undercutting, if he plays his own "reworks" and remixes on CDR that are unreleased. in fact it's not undercutting if he simply takes all the rare promo CDs and vinyls he must get sent, rips em to MP3, loads em up on a laptop for ease of storage.

and in fact, it's not undercutting even if he went and downloaded something some release group made, and played it live to thousands of screaming fans. The producer who made the track would probably thank him for it in fact, as it would make the track super popular due to PVDs reputation.

Posted by lotadeus on Aug-06-2003 22:15:

he used it from beginning! pics are from nature one!

last pic is from pvd set time ~15 min!

Lotadeus

Posted by whitesmoke on Aug-07-2003 00:36:

He used it at space34 last time he was in miami....

Posted by TwiloNYC on Aug-07-2003 02:32:

he's been using final scratch since his last casino party.

Posted by Vlad on Aug-07-2003 06:45:

How is it undercutting if hes playing songs that arent released on record or CD?

When I went to G&D @ Arc in NYC, they were playing all CD-R's, does that make them bad people for not going out and buying records, no, because everything they were playing were original tracks which didnt exist on record, 1 of which was the Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix of ATRC. Of course they can always press a vinyl, but why carry the baggage?

Until you find someone playing Cafe del Mar on CD-R or Final Scratch, than you can bash away.

Posted by Martin McG on Aug-07-2003 14:59:

hes using traktor not final scratch lol

Posted by Dj Thy on Aug-07-2003 15:04:

Erm, the latest installment of Final scratch uses Traktor as software engine...

Posted by Martin McG on Aug-07-2003 15:06:

wooooooo clever

Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-07-2003 15:27:

If the vinyl is spinning like normal- what happens when it runs out?
Do you just have to keep restarting it from the beginning?

I know it works on white noise or something and it converts the mp3 signal to analog or something like that.

Posted by Breeze on Aug-07-2003 17:09:

Very intresting, i wish i was up there with PVD and looking at what his doing....

Posted by Dj Thy on Aug-07-2003 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
If the vinyl is spinning like normal- what happens when it runs out?
Do you just have to keep restarting it from the beginning?

I know it works on white noise or something and it converts the mp3 signal to analog or something like that.

The vinyl contains some sort of time code. The software locks to that time code. Through phase difference, the program can see if the vinyl is spinning forward or backward and at what speed. Because the record is finite, you have a limit on the length of the tunes (first versions was about 12 minutes, don't know if that has changed since then).
Final scratch uses an absolute time code. If you lift the needle and place it further on the record, the tune will jump to x minutes further (like a real record).
Other systems like D-vinyl only use movement detection. You can control the pitch and direction of the sound (so beatmatching and scratching is possible), but the record doesn't contain any time information on itself. You can place the needle anywhere on the record and start the tune from the start. The vinyls of D-vinyl also have an infinite ending groove (it loops continuously) so you can play tunes of virtually any length. Both systems have their good points and flaws.

Posted by xKaoSx on Aug-07-2003 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
The vinyl contains some sort of time code. The software locks to that time code. Through phase difference, the program can see if the vinyl is spinning forward or backward and at what speed. Because the record is finite, you have a limit on the length of the tunes (first versions was about 12 minutes, don't know if that has changed since then).
Final scratch uses an absolute time code. If you lift the needle and place it further on the record, the tune will jump to x minutes further (like a real record).
Other systems like D-vinyl only use movement detection. You can control the pitch and direction of the sound (so beatmatching and scratching is possible), but the record doesn't contain any time information on itself. You can place the needle anywhere on the record and start the tune from the start. The vinyls of D-vinyl also have an infinite ending groove (it loops continuously) so you can play tunes of virtually any length. Both systems have their good points and flaws.

Wow- I didnt know it was time sensitive- now im impressed.
If you play a tune out more than 12 minutes I think some people will get quite bored! lol

/me checks bank account balance

Posted by weymouth on Aug-07-2003 22:32:

Wow I am impressed. that is awesome. Question though, Can you switch to a real vinyl if ya want without having to turn things off/pull cords out?

Weymouth

Posted by Dj Thy on Aug-07-2003 22:41:

Yup

Posted by IntegraR0064 on Aug-07-2003 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
hes using traktor not final scratch lol

hahahahahahahah....so THAt's how he's so good....

Posted by djtrancendance on Aug-08-2003 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
if dj craze says it's dope then it mizzle be da shizzle!

fo shizzle!

Posted by The Pusher on Aug-08-2003 05:45:

Re:

"Until you find someone playing Cafe del Mar on CD-R or Final Scratch, than you can bash away."

Well, Josh Wink doesn't play Cafe Del Mar but he plays his entire sets on Final Scratch now. So go ahead and bash Josh Wink, he's only one of the best and most innovative dj's there are. If you people want to continue to be thickheaded and can't get over the fact that there is a new wave of dj'ing then so be it.

Posted by xtr3m on Aug-08-2003 11:36:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
hes using traktor not final scratch lol

TRAKTOR was recently integrated with FS (story).

Posted by Martin McG on Aug-08-2003 12:13:

quote:
Originally posted by xtr3m
TRAKTOR was recently integrated with FS (story).

yup some one already said that

Posted by Dj Thy on Aug-08-2003 12:28:

Yup, beat ya

The trouble with systems like FS is that it's a wonderful concept. Basically you don't need to carry heavy bags/cases of vinyl, just a laptop, two vinyls and the interface (imagine carrying 3000 records to a gig, good luck). But it came at a bad time. The discussions about downloading illegally are THE hot topic of the last years, and suddenly a system appears that allows to control the audio files with your turntables. RIAA and purists don't need much to say that because of that, sales will drop even more.

But it's a marvellous thing for honest people. They buy records, digitize them, and then they can play them virtually infinitely, without risking to wear out those rare records you busted your a$$ to find, with the same feeling as the real thing.

But yeah, I can imagine the temptation is big...

Posted by Flash Bastard on Aug-09-2003 16:30:

kinda cool .. but what if you come to a big party as a dj with your laptop you have to plugin al the wire's first etc or ?

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