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A question about Techno

I've always thought and read on sites like www.eurodancereviews.com that the style Techno is represented by: Zombie Nation, Axel Konrad, and German DJs. If you've heard the track Das Licht - Take Off, that is Techno. This is not just my opinion, the term has been officially applied to those artists. If you doubt my words I will post some official quotes.

But here on these boards when people say "techno" they post something that I would label as "obscure beats without any melody". And this style is definitely different. It's not regular beat, it's shuffled, no melody, no hooks, just... something very very obscure.

So which definition, then, is correct?

Well if you're quoting from www.eurodancereviews.com (which doesn't exist...) you're doing it all wrong

In the early 90's techno was a different form of music than what it is now. Just as trance was way different in let's say '92 than it is now. Styles evolve and get new names. That's why some people still refer to some electronic music as techno, which isn't techno (as known today) at all.

This 'definition' would be the correct one right now:

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Originally posted by Eugene But here on these boards when people say "techno" they post something that I would label as "obscure beats without any melody". And this style is definitely different. It's not regular beat, it's shuffled, no melody, no hooks, just... something very very obscure.

Techno isn't obscure IMO. You only have to listen to it a lot more before you can really appreciate it. That's the same with all styles I think. You don't like progressive right away nor do you like trance right away.

sorry I meant www.eurodancehits.com !

And I will definitely post some quotes from there, just so you believe me and see the term used in context. BTW, the author of the site does know his genres, and he distinguishes many different styles. He distinguishes trance from techno from progressive from Italo-Dance from NRG etc. etc., basically he just posts reviews of various albums, you'll see if you go to the site.

For example Tiesto's Nyana is labelled by him as Trance.
But DJ Dean's "Play it Hard" is Techno, according to him.
And E-Rotic is EuroDance.

BAH!

It's just because of jackasses like that guy who wrote those reviews or whatever, that kids today is calling Scooter for techno...that's just bullshit...Nothing pisses me off like when I see a commercial spot on TV saying "Absolut Dance ## - The latest of trance & techno blah blah", and then DJ Sammy and Scooter is playing in the background...

It's all fake marketing, and that's why every little brat today is calling DJ Sammy trance and Scooter for techno...

I don't really know in which genres to put them under, but it's DEFINITELY not techno, nor is it trance...

EDIT: Das Licht - Take off btw is a good old kickass hardtrance tune...

There is a banging techno set with DJ Rush at the livesetsdownload section at TranceAddict...now THAT's techno! Check it out!

http://www.tranceaddict.com/livesets.shtml

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Originally posted by DJ_Laszlo BAH! It because of jackasses like that guy who wrote those reviews or whatever, that kids today is calling Scooter for techno...that's just bullshit...Nothing pisses me off like when I see a commercial spot on TV saying "Absolut Dance ## - The latest of trance & techno blah blah", and then DJ Sammy and Scooter is playing in the background... It's all fake marketing, and that's why every little brat today is calling DJ Sammy trance and Scooter for techno... I don't really know in which genres to put them, but it's DEFINITELY not techno, nor is it trance... EDIT: Das Licht - Take off btw is hardtrance... There is a banging techno set with DJ Rush at the livesetsdownload section at TranceAddict...now THAT's techno! Check it out! http://www.tranceaddict.com/livesets.shtml

OK... I understand your anger, and if you are correct then I share it with you, but this guy gets paid for reviewing various albums, so he supposedly knows his shit. In particular, genre names are highlighted in a different color, to immediately give readers an idea about the CD being reviewed.

Some quotes ( http://www.eurodancehits.com/review.html ):

DJ Networx 13: "For instance "Brainshooter" by BLUTONIUM BOY offers both galloping TECHNO, but enriched with TRANCEY riffs."

DJ Networx 15: "For some of you who likes NRG mixed with TECHNO I've got "Into Your Eyes" by ANGEL ONE."

DJ Networx 14: "Galloping TECHNO in "Nightlife" by STARSPLASH serves as a good example of type of TECHNO. TRANCE sound is represented by DJ YANNY's presents TERRAFORMER - "All Over", UNDERGROUND energized TECHNO dominates in "Hamburg Rulez" by BARBAREZ feat. MIKE SPOON. "

Note that he describes Barbarez (a DJ Dean project) as Techno. Have you ever heard "Hamburg Rulez" or "Let's Go" by Barbarez? Their style is equivalent to Das Licht.

Well I surfed around on www.eurodancehits.com and I see what you mean when you're 'confused' about the term techno.

The reviewer(s) simply give the term techno to almost every compilation. E.g. Scooter is called a techno project and Pulsedriver's album is defined as techno/trance. That's absolutely not true. Scooter in no way can be considered techno or even technoish. The way I see it is that the term techno is used as strong word/expression but it doesn't have anything to do with the genre techno.

Today's techno is represented by people like Speedy J, Chris Liebing, Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Gaetano Parisio, Gabry Fasano etc.

The music which is reviewed at www.eurodancehits.com is often trance, hard-trance and euro-dance. I haven't seen one techno album at all.

Hope this helps out a bit

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Originally posted by Djeebie Hope this helps out a bit

Yes! thanks.

Re: A question about Techno

Let the music speak for itself (the ID + subgenre is on the tag)

This is techno

This is techno too

This one could be considered techno as well

Yet another techno tune

Just in case you're not sure of what techno is

As for the names: look for Adam Beyer, Chris Liberator and Jeff Mills.

its always been my view that techno began in detroit and that germans and europeans in general have taken to it very well.

however kernkraft is not techno. arseholes call this techno becasue once upon a time some group called 2 unlimited sang the lyrics in their song and anything that sounds remotely like that is reffered to as techno by clueless munkeys.

if you are looking for recent techno artists then look no further than the likes of adam beyer, chris liening, peter dundov, ben sims, justin robertson, danillo vigorito, marco carola, jeff mills and so on.

Re: Re: A question about Techno

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Originally posted by Maaz Let the music speak for itself (the ID + subgenre is on the tag) This is techno This is techno too This one could be considered techno as well Yet another techno tune Just in case you're not sure of what techno is As for the names: look for Adam Beyer, Chris Liberator and Jeff Mills.

I think I know what techno is but I am curious to hear your samples, but they don't work

go to www.technoputa.com for techno-related stuff. It's a new website that opened up, and we have a forum for discussion and sets for downloading that'll be updated often. Take a look!

Techno is the bomb...




that is all.




Dahlback and Krome - Murder was the Bass (original mix)

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It's just because of jackasses like that guy who wrote those reviews or whatever, that kids today is calling Scooter for techno...that's just bullshit...Nothing pisses me off like when I see a commercial spot on TV saying "Absolut Dance ## - The latest of trance & techno blah blah", and then DJ Sammy and Scooter is playing in the background...

I think you guys have different standards for what to call TECHNO. Obviously SCOOTER is TECHNO but not in underground club-oriented setting. I think SCOOTER itself might be a guilty party calling their recent album "The Stadium TECHNO Experience". Oh well...

Kris (the Jackass)
EuroDanceHits

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Originally posted by EuroBeat I think you guys have different standards for what to call TECHNO. Obviously SCOOTER is TECHNO but not in underground club-oriented setting. I think SCOOTER itself might be a guilty party calling their recent album "The Stadium TECHNO Experience". Oh well... Kris (the Jackass) EuroDanceHits

what is with ta's in training calling all electronic music techno
people that say techno while referring to non techno songs obviously don't listen to any genres of electronica, i was reading time magazine and it said madonna songs were techno and he also used the words cold and without feeling, he was obviously a clown

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Originally posted by mndeg what is with ta's in training calling all electronic music techno people that say techno while referring to non techno songs obviously don't listen to any genres of electronica, i was reading time magazine and it said madonna songs were techno and he also used the words cold and without feeling, he was obviously a clown

I don't know if you noticed but at stores like Sam Goody they label all electronica as "techno". Anyway, what Time Magazine was that article in? I'd like to take a look.

The samples are:
Rowland the Bastard - Had it with blondes
Glenn Wilson - Sonic Junction
Takkyu Ishino - Alles Nach Nippon
Neil Landstrumm - Takks
Jeff Mills - Changes of Life

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Originally posted by EuroBeat I think you guys have different standards for what to call TECHNO. Obviously SCOOTER is TECHNO but not in underground club-oriented setting. I think SCOOTER itself might be a guilty party calling their recent album "The Stadium TECHNO Experience". Oh well... Kris (the Jackass) EuroDanceHits

Mate, I know it may sound like a joke, but this is techno. In fact, this thing is funny because it's true.

The media usually calls techno anything that sounds electronic because they're a bunch of experts on things they don't know. As simple as that: and unfortunately people buy it, so it became an "umbrella term" almost as meaningless as "electronica". If you really want to know, most Scooter tunes could be easily labelled as sub-genres of house music (the cheesiest ones, that's for sure), with some hardcore, trance and even drum'n'bass or electro influences in it.

But techno? Mate, I used to like Scooter a lot when I was younger (I listened to 6 whole albums) and no, there was no techno ... at all Maybe you could say that "Scooter - Move your ass" is acid techno, but it's muzzarellic acid trance

who cares what the music is called by other people. Most people who dont listen to electronic music regulary should just call it whatever the fuck they want. No need to be all political correct. Besides, its sometimes difficult to classify an artist or dj as a certain genre anyways.

just my thoughts

Ok, just to clarify, I'll give some REAL techno examples from my collection (I recommend people who like techno to check these out) :

Mike Dust - Kids
Mike Dust - Pump Up The Volume
Per Mikael - In This City (Samuel L Sessions Dark Matter Mix)
Stanny Franssen - Patented Noise
Stanny Franssen - 5th Resource
Tube Tech - Tanz Der Familie (Eric Sneo Mix)
Chris McCormack - Erase Techno
Danilo Vigorito - Concordia
Danilo Vigorito - Regroove
Dustin Zahn - Hardoff
Dustin Zahn - Nasty Child
Dustin Zahn - In Transit
Leandro Gamez - Lastimero
Leandro Gamez - Que Viene Valdez
Leandro Gamez - Remora


Happy listening

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Originally posted by Dmatrox who cares what the music is called by other people. Most people who dont listen to electronic music regulary should just call it whatever the fuck they want. No need to be all political correct. Besides, its sometimes difficult to classify an artist or dj as a certain genre anyways. just my thoughts

That's why I don't slag people off just because they think that Lasgo is techno: they wouldn't listen to Chris Liebing anyway, why mind?

However, someone who posts here supposedly like electronic music, so why not give him some info on "what is what"? This way he can improve his knowledge about electronic music

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Originally posted by EuroBeat I think you guys have different standards for what to call TECHNO. Obviously SCOOTER is TECHNO but not in underground club-oriented setting. I think SCOOTER itself might be a guilty party calling their recent album "The Stadium TECHNO Experience". Oh well... Kris (the Jackass) EuroDanceHits

You get paid to do electronica reviews, yet you call scooter techno??

how the hell did you get hired . From what i have heard, scooter seems to be sort of cheese/commercial trance kind of stuff, i can't say i've ever heard a techno track by them

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Originally posted by arctic You get paid to do electronica reviews, yet you call scooter techno?? how the hell did you get hired . From what i have heard, scooter seems to be sort of cheese/commercial trance kind of stuff, i can't say i've ever heard a techno track by them

No, I am not paid to do the electronica reviews. SCOOTER is commercial and it is electronic sound. TECHNO, is not the most fortunate term to describe it, however for less sophisticated audience that might fit the bill. :-)

Kris (The Techno Ignorant Jackass)
EuroDanceHits

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