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Oakenfold"s Sets - Real or Not?
im an oakie fan and i really want to know if the rumors are true, if you dont know what im talking about, ive heard that his 931 and his State side sets are just some tracks that oakenfold likes plus some other tracks and a computer mix this tracks
and this rumors make sense becuse you can hear this HUGE diffrence between his dance department sets and the state side sets
,now i need to know is it true,is oakie cheating in the radio stations??(god i hope so,i whould hate to think that oakenfold has become THAT bed)
931 doesnt always play live sets
Stateside, dance department, presents, mixmasters, ect are all done in pro tools. There all from the same source even though some may be mixed before others.
Tracklistings are compiled by Oakenfold from the tracks that he likes. Oakenfold comes up with the tracklisting, then the tracks are mixed in pro tools. Reason for this is since not all gigs allow recording, this is why. Whenever his gigs are recorded those are given out to radio stations and broadcasted.
Its not that big of a deal, alot of djs use pro tools (Paul van Dyk, Oakenfold, Digweed, Sasha, ect). Half of the GU's are done in pro tools (the early ones ex. Oakenfold and ect are not). Most radio mixes given out are also done in pro tools.
Its just that the dj's dont really have time to sit down and make a mix every week for there show so this is a sure way to get them out.
JaY
Yeah, what JayD said! Another Question: Doesn't proTools cost like thousands of dollars. I looked it up once on google and found ?something stating that!
peace.
Steve
not thousands.. but around the 1K mark
you can download the 8 track version for free
but when you buy it you get the full 16 channels plus the 001 unit
If it's true that Pro Tools can automatically mix tracks well enough for using this approach to save the DJ time (in comparison to actually spinning the set), then I believe that radio stations should demand real live sets and give lesser known DJs a chance on the decks, instead of having computer mixes. If Paul Oakenfold doesn't have enough time, there are tons of DJs (who may even be better technical mixers) that would like a shot at it. That said, I doubt that they're using Pro Tools because it saves time.... They mix albums in Pro Tools because they want them to sound perfect. I'm not sure why they use it for radio gigs.
Have you ever heard Oakey mixing for real? Its a JOKE! Refer to his recent Radio 1 Essential mix @ Cream Amnesia 
Oakey can mix well, check his older sets for that.
Id rather hear sets compiled by Oakie because the man has some great
skills in choosing what tracks to play and in what order, id rather
hear protools sets once in a while with Oakie instead of hearing some
19 year old mintmixing tranceguy playing anthem after anthem after anthem
with 3 breakdowns per tune.
fine use protoolz for cd's, but using it for radio sets takes the piss.
they should get a clue and make time to mix real sets.. its their career after all.. if they havent got time then they shouldnt agree to broadcast on that station. its cheating the listeners.. at least on a cd it will say 'mixed with protoolz' or sumthing.
oakey should quit snorting coke and mix some.
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| Originally posted by JayD Stateside, dance department, presents, mixmasters, ect are all done in pro tools. There all from the same source even though some may be mixed before others. Tracklistings are compiled by Oakenfold from the tracks that he likes. Oakenfold comes up with the tracklisting, then the tracks are mixed in pro tools. Reason for this is since not all gigs allow recording, this is why. Whenever his gigs are recorded those are given out to radio stations and broadcasted. Its not that big of a deal, alot of djs use pro tools (Paul van Dyk, Oakenfold, Digweed, Sasha, ect). Half of the GU's are done in pro tools (the early ones ex. Oakenfold and ect are not). Most radio mixes given out are also done in pro tools. Its just that the dj's dont really have time to sit down and make a mix every week for there show so this is a sure way to get them out. JaY |
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| Originally posted by Viber ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!111 this makes me sick! oakenfold is the best dj in the world and he does this kind of thing? |
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| Originally posted by webbie ... so does Sasha, Hernan Cattenao, DJ Ti�sto, Paul van Dyk and so on. |
dance department is a radio show in the netherlands.
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| Originally posted by kreischer2000 dance department is a radio show in the netherlands. |
nope not a club only a radio show
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| Originally posted by Biohazard Have you ever heard Oakey mixing for real? Its a JOKE! Refer to his recent Radio 1 Essential mix @ Cream Amnesia Oakey can mix well, check his older sets for that. |
who really gives a shit....i hate this whole argument, it is kind of like the whole cddj's vs vinyl dj's....some people are just hung up on the "stereotypical dj" and if the dj he admires is seen spinning cdrs he loses all respect for him.....
god dammit people have we forgotten what this is ALL about...
ITS ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!!!!
christ people all the tracks u hear on vinyl were produced on a computer anyway, whats the big fuckin deal. if u can groove to it and it makes u feel better about yourself who gives a shit if its being played on vinyl, cd, final scratch, laptop, etc.......
ive done gigs before using %98 cdr's the whole time, then afterwards people would come up....and be like "great set!!!, i loved this, this, etc......." then they see my book of cdr's and are like..."pffft" nevermind u use cd's. that kind of shit pisses me off. get with the future, vinyl will not always be the strongest media for djs in the future, get use to seeing alot more laptops, etc....
there's a difference between a DJ using various tools (CDs vs vinyl) and a DJ not doing his/her job... (automating the process)
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| Originally posted by dj willie whop who really gives a shit....i hate this whole argument, it is kind of like the whole cddj's vs vinyl dj's....some people are just hung up on the "stereotypical dj" and if the dj he admires is seen spinning cdrs he loses all respect for him..... god dammit people have we forgotten what this is ALL about... ITS ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!!!! christ people all the tracks u hear on vinyl were produced on a computer anyway, whats the big fuckin deal. if u can groove to it and it makes u feel better about yourself who gives a shit if its being played on vinyl, cd, final scratch, laptop, etc....... ive done gigs before using %98 cdr's the whole time, then afterwards people would come up....and be like "great set!!!, i loved this, this, etc......." then they see my book of cdr's and are like..."pffft" nevermind u use cd's. that kind of shit pisses me off. get with the future, vinyl will not always be the strongest media for djs in the future, get use to seeing alot more laptops, etc.... |
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| Originally posted by DJ Dingel If it's true that Pro Tools can automatically mix tracks well enough for using this approach to save the DJ time (in comparison to actually spinning the set), then I believe that radio stations should demand real live sets and give lesser known DJs a chance on the decks, instead of having computer mixes. If Paul Oakenfold doesn't have enough time, there are tons of DJs (who may even be better technical mixers) that would like a shot at it. That said, I doubt that they're using Pro Tools because it saves time.... They mix albums in Pro Tools because they want them to sound perfect. I'm not sure why they use it for radio gigs. |
Me on the other hand I feel the opposite I think its ok to use the comp on radio shows but I dont think its ok to use them on cds. I mean think about it a cd is something ure supposed to put ure soul into, cds arent radio shows, they dont come out every week and i thinkas an artist you would want ure cds to be the very best, and also want to think that u did them. I mean I dont see from a personal stand point how someone would use the computer to mix their cds, but I mean this is the industry as it is now.
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| Originally posted by DJ Dingel there's a difference between a DJ using various tools (CDs vs vinyl) and a DJ not doing his/her job... (automating the process) |
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| Originally posted by DJ Dingel If it's true that Pro Tools can automatically mix tracks well enough for using this approach to save the DJ time (in comparison to actually spinning the set), then I believe that radio stations should demand real live sets and give lesser known DJs a chance on the decks, instead of having computer mixes. If Paul Oakenfold doesn't have enough time, there are tons of DJs (who may even be better technical mixers) that would like a shot at it. That said, I doubt that they're using Pro Tools because it saves time.... They mix albums in Pro Tools because they want them to sound perfect. I'm not sure why they use it for radio gigs. |
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| Originally posted by VaNFeCto Me on the other hand I feel the opposite I think its ok to use the comp on radio shows but I dont think its ok to use them on cds. I mean think about it a cd is something ure supposed to put ure soul into, cds arent radio shows, they dont come out every week and i thinkas an artist you would want ure cds to be the very best, and also want to think that u did them. I mean I dont see from a personal stand point how someone would use the computer to mix their cds, but I mean this is the industry as it is now. |
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