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Becoming a DJ hard?

I was wondering that is DJ:ing hard ? I'd like to try making mixes, but need some good programs and i don't think fruityloops alone will do =)

Here's a typical cliche:

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!

peace.

Steve

That's what i tought...=)

I'll work on my fruityloop then

Pick up "How to DJ Right". Sit down and read it multiple times. Memorize it for it is a holy book in the world of the DJ. Learning to DJ is hard... Lots of beatmatching plus getting used to seperating beats... It's crazy! lol

like anything else, if you want to do it well you have to work very hard at it!

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Originally posted by CopFish I was wondering that is DJ:ing hard ? I'd like to try making mixes, but need some good programs and i don't think fruityloops alone will do =)

Fruity Loops has nothing to do with DJing, it has to do with producing. producing is MAKING music. DJing is PLAYING music. There is more to DJing that just playing music obviously, but essentially that's all it is.

Djing is EASY. producing is hard.

however, DJing is expensive, you will need about $2000 CAD to get started with two decks and a mixer, headphones, slipmats, and a decent amount of vinyl to start with.
you could go the CD route too, it's just as expensive.

Then again, proper monitors, an amp to drive them, and a basic midi synth will cost you about the same at least.

Or, you can go the "free" route to get started, using only software and mp3s. Try them both out, and see what you like, then buy some real machines.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Fruity Loops has nothing to do with DJing, it has to do with producing. producing is MAKING music. DJing is PLAYING music. There is more to DJing that just playing music obviously, but essentially that's all it is. Djing is EASY. producing is hard.

True, but hey djing is easy to good djs and very difficult to crap djs and producing is hard like 99% of the time but in that 1% it's very easy

DJing is easy
being a good DJ is hard
being a successful DJ is even harder
being a "good" successful DJ is the hardest.

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Originally posted by montie DJing is easy being a good DJ is hard being a successful DJ is even harder being a "good" successful DJ is the hardest.

Well put

Being a good DJ doesn't mean you can just beatmatch. It's about knowing what to play at the right time to get the crowd pumped. Also staying true to your style...

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs Well put Being a good DJ doesn't mean you can just beatmatch. It's about knowing what to play at the right time to get the crowd pumped. Also staying true to your style...

exactly

I just bought my equipment and i got about 7 vinyls now. I havent started learning yet. Hopefully i'll be able to get the basics of it by the end of the year

DJing is not hard. DJing well is hard.

:/

You know heres a question Ive always wanted to ask, what seperates a PvD from a really good bedroom Dj. What I'm saying is what does it take to get to the next level, Im sure it cant be mixing alone can it?

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Originally posted by VaNFeCto You know heres a question Ive always wanted to ask, what seperates a PvD from a really good bedroom Dj. What I'm saying is what does it take to get to the next level, Im sure it cant be mixing alone can it?

First and very important part: Track Selection (reading the crowd and all that).

then comes a lot of other stuff that can be seen as unfair.

In no particular order:
1. Who you know.
2. Who knows about you.
3. Being at the right place at the right time.

1 and 2 is helped a lot if you produce tracks that get's somewhat successful. These can also overide everything else that's attributed to skills.

3 is basically just pure luck.

So, if you wanna make it, the name of the game is to make a lot of noise. Get to know a lot of people and let a lot of people know about you.

...and when you get there...don't f*ck it up

Also, in order to get playing out, its also important who you know, so networking plays a big part as well. And off course the amount of effort you put into your practising. Try to create your own style, instead of copying well known dj playlists.

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Originally posted by VaNFeCto You know heres a question Ive always wanted to ask, what seperates a PvD from a really good bedroom Dj. What I'm saying is what does it take to get to the next level, Im sure it cant be mixing alone can it?

I'd of said the blatent obvious, HIS PRODUCTIONS!!! Look @ all the BIG names they are producers! There's quite a link there guys

--djway_producerway

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Originally posted by MagikMuzikNet Also, in order to get playing out, its also important who you know, so networking plays a big part as well. And off course the amount of effort you put into your practising. Try to create your own style, instead of copying well known dj playlists.

having ur own style is incredibly important nowadays. if u just play the same tunes as everyone else then no-one will notice you. to become a successful dj u have to spend half your life in the record shops, so u get those little beauties before everyone else. you need to have something up ur sleeve, and depending on what style u play u may want to think about learning to cut and/or scratch.

make a lot of noise, go out to clubs a lot, talk to dj's, talk to promoters, then when uve got talking slip them a cd

producing is always a good thing if ur trying to make it as a dj, but do it for the right reasons. dont try and produce unless its because you want to produce.. its the same the other way round.. dont DJ just because u want to promote ur own music.. if you do it because you want to do it then u will become a better DJ

as for whether DJing is easy or hard.. it depends on what kind of person you are. for some people its relativly easy, for some its harder. the concepts are generally easy to pick up, but hard to master. start by just getting the beatmatching sorted and then crossfading. beatmatching is the vital part, and its the difference between a shit mix and an average mix.

hope this helps

producing is hard but not that hard

djing is hard for me since i dont do it often so i stick to atomix

atomixing is well easy, not that i take advantages of its full automation and shit, but i use it to beatmatch, thats it, the rest is all by ear and visual and sometimes instinct

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Originally posted by tu_face and then crossfading

i call it channel fading ...

Ive never toucehd the crossfader ever (only when messing about), it stays bang put in the middle

channel fading gives more control over the volumes for getting that perfect transition.

thats just my peronal preference though ;D

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Originally posted by CopFish i don't think fruityloops alone will do =)

you damn straight!
im so sick of just usin' fruity but i'm about to get "cubase"

cubase is damn good...

k, good luck!

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Originally posted by DJYaNiK Pick up "How to DJ Right". Sit down and read it multiple times. Memorize it for it is a holy book in the world of the DJ. Learning to DJ is hard... Lots of beatmatching plus getting used to seperating beats... It's crazy! lol

yeah, thats a fucking brilliant book. Can't reccomend it highly enough.

ditto on what Irish said.

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Originally posted by Nell i call it channel fading ... Ive never toucehd the crossfader ever (only when messing about), it stays bang put in the middle channel fading gives more control over the volumes for getting that perfect transition. thats just my peronal preference though ;D

yep, channel faders are far superior, in my opinion as well. i only use the crossfader for when you really want to slam a track in or out quick, or scratching. which i hardly ever do, so it's always in the middle.

if you are reluctant to buy turn tables/mixer/monitors you might try

a) trying it at a friends house
b) maybe give the program "atomix" a shot if you don't want to try on actual decks

Both producing and Djing are easy stuff if you stick with it. You know how the staying goes "Practise makes perfect", well this is true and very easily applied to the things you love.

I mean Djing can be learnt in less than a month BUT producing takes 1-2 years because it takes more skill BUT that's what you call the learning phase, you will still not learn all the producing secrets in that 2 years but you will learn the structure and so on of a electronica song. And no it's not all about 4/4 crap, you have remember every little sample you hear, hi-hats, kicks, beats and so on...to the last little sample AND this is when you will succeed in what you do and this is when you will produce what your mind thinks is good, rather than whatever you can produce by guessing what happens by pressing a button or turning a knob a bit.

songs can be made in one day if you want BUT you still got to go through the learning phase.

Same as driving a car, first time you drive, do you reckon you could ace every corner and be able to not panic and screw up, I don't think so.

Practise what you love...i know i am.

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