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Posted by Sirocco on Aug-20-2003 13:48:

Exploration of Basslines

here we go again..any tips of making rolling bassline and stuff to go seamlessly

Posted by Passiva on Aug-20-2003 13:52:

Reason:

I create a substractor, one osc. Cut the frequency down. Lots of delay and EQ. With these basic settings you can create nice basslines.

Just add an simple sequence and the delay will do its work. I will upload an *.rns later on.

Greetings,
Galen

[EDIT]

Download RNS here

Posted by Sirocco on Aug-20-2003 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by -=Re-GrOoVeD=-
Reason:

I create a substractor, one osc. Cut the frequency down. Lots of delay and EQ. With these basic settings you can create nice basslines.

Just add an simple sequence and the delay will do its work. I will upload an *.rns later on.

Greetings,
Galen

sounds gr8 will try this with some vsts!

Posted by Sirocco on Aug-20-2003 14:27:

personally i use cubase sx but lemme install reason tonight and check it out via rewire ;p

Posted by Vizay on Aug-20-2003 15:04:

I have a rule I always go by when creating basslines....stay off the reverb, never put a verb on a bassline....since the bassline is suposed to drive the song on very distinct it gets fucked up if you use verb on the bassline....well at least that's my opinion about it

Posted by Costa del Sol on Aug-20-2003 16:17:

Posted by acell on Aug-20-2003 23:23:

You'll find with the hennes and cold, scot project basslines that they are not just 1 sample. There are usualy 3 samples layered together to get that sound..

I use the Malstorm synth in reason for this.. 3 seperate machines, sine waves all the way

There is the bass(bottom) sample that starts at the same time as the kick... giving the kick more bottom end (the kick shouldn't have much bass in it), and with the right attact and decay settings give the body of that whooooomp sound. Then on the off beat (k---b---) is the heart of the bassline.. thats the sameple that has the volume to it. Quick attack and quick decay with some layers of distortion (warm and rough) and a heavy amount EQing. Nowthat reason has the new Scream 4 distortion pannel you can add that warmth to it with the tape distortion.. then add another scream 4 and get the gritty sounds going.. Also never forget your compression.. there is a shyte load on comp on this..

Alot of work, time and tuning to get it all sounding right... i hope this gives some insite

This one bellow is just 4 hours work and only using 2 synths.. not finished but you get the idea.. the kick is also original from rebirth338 and then messed up in soundforge.. if you would like some tips with the kick PM me.

bassline.mp3

Posted by TOR on Aug-21-2003 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
I have a rule I always go by when creating basslines....stay off the reverb, never put a verb on a bassline....since the bassline is suposed to drive the song on very distinct it gets fucked up if you use verb on the bassline....well at least that's my opinion about it

reverb does not apply to basslines in general, but in Reason there's this "stereo echoes" effect which works very well! but the most important thing is indeed to EQ it right..

Posted by -AbsurD- on Aug-24-2003 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by acell
You'll find with the hennes and cold, scot project basslines that they are not just 1 sample. There are usualy 3 samples layered together to get that sound..

I use the Malstorm synth in reason for this.. 3 seperate machines, sine waves all the way

There is the bass(bottom) sample that starts at the same time as the kick... giving the kick more bottom end (the kick shouldn't have much bass in it), and with the right attact and decay settings give the body of that whooooomp sound. Then on the off beat (k---b---) is the heart of the bassline.. thats the sameple that has the volume to it. Quick attack and quick decay with some layers of distortion (warm and rough) and a heavy amount EQing. Nowthat reason has the new Scream 4 distortion pannel you can add that warmth to it with the tape distortion.. then add another scream 4 and get the gritty sounds going.. Also never forget your compression.. there is a shyte load on comp on this..

Alot of work, time and tuning to get it all sounding right... i hope this gives some insite

This one bellow is just 4 hours work and only using 2 synths.. not finished but you get the idea.. the kick is also original from rebirth338 and then messed up in soundforge.. if you would like some tips with the kick PM me.

bassline.mp3

lol

u spent 4 hours on THIS?

Posted by Audio Beverage on Aug-24-2003 09:03:

quote:
Originally posted by -AbsurD-
lol

u spent 4 hours on THIS?

no "JUST" 4 hours

Posted by -AbsurD- on Aug-24-2003 15:27:

haha

4 hrs to create a simple bassline, and a kick? wohoa...

maybe he created the whole track in 4 hours, but just posted the bassline sample, or something? "confused"

Posted by Eugene on Aug-24-2003 16:32:

Actually it's quite normal to spend a few hours creating the bassline, why are you guys making fun of him?
It takes me also around that time to get a cool bass. For example check out the sample that I posted in the other thread, with the Scot Project-type bass...

Of course if you use a ready-made preset and just tweak one knob it's gonna be pretty fast. But it's worth spending some time on the bass because it gives character to the track.

Posted by -AbsurD- on Aug-24-2003 22:37:

spending 4 hours on a bassline, and its still not finished is a waste, in my opinion...

plus... those cheesy k--b--k--b basslines got old a long time ago...

the sounds of the bassline is important... but the pattern of the bassline, the original pattern, is not less important then the sound

so if u wanna create a badass bassline try designing an original pattern of it...make some notes longer, some shorter... mess with Low Cut, so it wud "open" at the end of the loop, and "close" at the begining...

but k--b--k--b bassline is done....its history, forget about it

dont u think?

Posted by Eugene on Aug-24-2003 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by -AbsurD-
but k--b--k--b bassline is done....its history, forget about it

dont u think?

Depends on the style.
For most tracks in the Euro/HardTrance/Dance style, offbeat bass is still the best (it's popular for a reason), and a lot of artists use it.

That doesn't mean it has to be primitive, you can make it hard or warped or low and everybody adds a second bass-synth on top of it, so...

Posted by acell on Aug-24-2003 23:21:

-AbsurD-,

dam man.. why be such a prick.. got nothing better to do with your time? Sorry i'm not as l33t you. Fuck wit.. this is why people don't try new things or ask as many questions as they should, coz of wankers like you who have nothing better to do with there simple lifes then shoot other artists down.. yeah it took me around 4 hours of playing around to get that kick and bassline sounding the way it is.. i thought i'd just give my insite into how i created..

Posted by DJMikeyP on Aug-25-2003 07:20:

He has a point. People need to focus LESS on bashing and "oh this sucks because bee bee beep" and try to contribute instead.

Posted by thecYrus on Aug-25-2003 08:17:

someone know, how i could make a bassline like abel in his remix of 4 ever...

floyd - 4 ever (abel ramos remix)

the synth is not the problem.. but i would like to know how i've to set the notes.