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Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-24-2003 21:42:

Thumbs up Ingredients and Method to making scones?

i was just wondering if anyone had the list of ingredients, and a method for concocting cherry scones

time to start putting that cooking practice into practice hehe


Posted by Dom on Aug-24-2003 21:46:

first u need 200g of don't be stupid


Posted by Coup on Aug-24-2003 21:48:

and 300g of my full postal address with a stamped addressed envelope


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-24-2003 21:49:

lol its for erm, research, yes thats right, research purposes only


Posted by Coup on Aug-24-2003 21:51:

u wuss, make it and get spannered


Posted by jp on Aug-24-2003 21:51:

To a well stirred, cooled mixture of 34g of 30% H202 (hydrogen peroxide) in 150g 80% HCO2H (formic acid) there was added, dropwise, a solution of 32.4g isosafrole in 120ml acetone at a rate that kept the reaction mixture from exceeding 40 deg C. This required a bit over 1 hour, and external cooling was used as necessary. Stirring was continued for 16 hours, and care was taken that the slow exothermic reaction did not cause excess heating. An external bath with running water worked well. During this time the solution progressed from an orange color to a deep red. All volatile components were removed under vacuum which yielded some 60g of a very deep residue. This was dissolved in 60ml of MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol), treated with 360ml of 15% H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), and heated for 3 hours on the steam bath. After cooling the mixture was extracted with 3x75ml Et2O (diethyl ether) or C6H6 (benzene). Its recommended that, the pooled extracts can washed -- first with H2O and then with dilute NaOH (sodium hydroxide). Then the solvent is removed under vacuum to afford 20.6g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl methyl ketone). The final residue may be distilled at 2.0mm/108-112 deg C, or at about 160 deg C at the water pump.


Add 23g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone to 65g HCONH2 (formamide) and heat at 190 deg for five hours. Cool, add 100ml H20, extract with C6H6 (benzene) and evaporate in vacuum the extract. Add 8ml MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol) and 75ml 15% HCl to residue, heat on water bath two hours and extract in vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oil with benzene and dry, evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA).
To produce MDMA substitute N-methylformamide for formamide in the above synthesis.


Posted by Dom on Aug-24-2003 21:52:

unless your a fully qualified chemist i seriously don't think you should bother risking your life or that of any of your friends


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-24-2003 21:53:

well when someone gives me the list i'll have to incorporate a bit of , erm, subject testing into my erm, project, lol.

hmmm, my own concotion of 110mg mdma pills yummy


Posted by jp on Aug-24-2003 21:54:

Why bother? These things only cost 1,5 Euro each in Holland


Posted by Coup on Aug-24-2003 21:54:

i am reporting this thread to a moderator.


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-24-2003 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
To a well stirred, cooled mixture of 34g of 30% H202 (hydrogen peroxide) in 150g 80% HCO2H (formic acid) there was added, dropwise, a solution of 32.4g isosafrole in 120ml acetone at a rate that kept the reaction mixture from exceeding 40 deg C. This required a bit over 1 hour, and external cooling was used as necessary. Stirring was continued for 16 hours, and care was taken that the slow exothermic reaction did not cause excess heating. An external bath with running water worked well. During this time the solution progressed from an orange color to a deep red. All volatile components were removed under vacuum which yielded some 60g of a very deep residue. This was dissolved in 60ml of MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol), treated with 360ml of 15% H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), and heated for 3 hours on the steam bath. After cooling the mixture was extracted with 3x75ml Et2O (diethyl ether) or C6H6 (benzene). Its recommended that, the pooled extracts can washed -- first with H2O and then with dilute NaOH (sodium hydroxide). Then the solvent is removed under vacuum to afford 20.6g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl methyl ketone). The final residue may be distilled at 2.0mm/108-112 deg C, or at about 160 deg C at the water pump.


Add 23g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone to 65g HCONH2 (formamide) and heat at 190 deg for five hours. Cool, add 100ml H20, extract with C6H6 (benzene) and evaporate in vacuum the extract. Add 8ml MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol) and 75ml 15% HCl to residue, heat on water bath two hours and extract in vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oil with benzene and dry, evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA).
To produce MDMA substitute N-methylformamide for formamide in the above synthesis.


i've already seen that, its not particularly clear on what equipment on what to use either. the chemicals involved are also quite difficult to make/obtain. and Dom i'm currently studying a degree in Pharmacology and have done A level Chemistry etc. and of course am mates with plenty of chemists


Posted by Dom on Aug-24-2003 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
Why bother? These things only cost 1,5 Euro each in Holland


exactly


u cud save urself the hassle and prob get about 20 pills for the cost of the ingredients


Posted by Dom on Aug-24-2003 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
i've already seen that, its not particularly clear on what equipment on what to use either. the chemicals involved are also quite difficult to make/obtain. and Dom i'm currently studying a degree in Pharmacology and have done A level Chemistry etc. and of course am mates with plenty of chemists



fair enough but just remember the consequences if u made just one mistake......


Posted by jp on Aug-24-2003 21:59:

If you wanna experiment, you should do so in the bedroom...

or bathroom...

kitchen...

in the car..

garden...


Got it?


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-24-2003 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Dom
fair enough but just remember the consequences if u made just one mistake......


next project at uni

conversation between me n lecturer

"what are u making"
"erm, aspirin?"

haha, i just reading it again, and the only hard ingredietns to obtain are the complex ketones and safrole/isosafrole which are highlighted under most chemical company's books as the precursor to E, hehe. I know that it has other uses, but thats its main one, lol. everything else is piss easy. apart from the extratction with benzene, cos you'll get cancer from that lol


Posted by Misty Kitty on Aug-24-2003 22:05:

LOL, im glad i live close to Lam, but i do feel a bit like a test bunny, id rather be a playboy bunny


Posted by Ste on Aug-24-2003 22:32:

once you have finished ur degree lam you will probably be able to do it.

a lot of the processes involve chemistry which is studied at degree level.

the only thing a few of the ingrediants are a bit dangerous


Posted by Cru54d3r on Aug-25-2003 00:33:

Grow some mushrooms instead maybe?

Crusader


Posted by dstrukt on Aug-25-2003 00:44:

* go lam, go lam, go go go!

waves pom poms


Posted by dstrukt on Aug-25-2003 00:45:

Can u stamp the TSN logo on em?


Posted by Cru54d3r on Aug-25-2003 00:48:

I want mine with plenty of vitamin c

Crusader


Posted by Coup on Aug-25-2003 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by dstrukt
Can u stamp the TSN logo on em?

no stamp UKTA on them all


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-25-2003 17:53:

hehe a nice bit of advertising that would be for The Beautiful system

i was thinking about it and it would be so easy to do in my college, let alone my university lab!


Posted by Ste on Aug-25-2003 17:57:

edited ur first post + title.

u can understand y


Posted by dj_mdma on Aug-25-2003 18:00:

i like cherry scones
mmmm


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