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Posted by Rememberence_ on Aug-24-2003 22:33:

This transition is impossible!! Try it!

Let me be the first to admit I'm not a very experienced DJ, but this transition (from Chicane - Saltwater (Original Mix) into Delerium - Silence (Tiesto's ISOS Remix)) is just impossible!

Can anyone pull it off, and make it sound good? If so, record the transition, send it to me, I'll post it on my webspace and please kindly explain what you did!

Posted by El~ZaPo on Aug-24-2003 23:19:

I might give it a shot.

Posted by snotbubbl1 on Aug-25-2003 00:14:

reasons that it may not work for you:

1. the two records are not in the same key
2. your skills are lacking?

Posted by escee on Aug-25-2003 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by snotbubbl1
1. the two records are not in the same key

quoted for emphasis

Posted by El~ZaPo on Aug-25-2003 01:44:

Well I gave it a go, and here's what I came up with.
It sounds kinda rough but I don't really feel like doing it again.

download here: Transition.mp3
1:34, 1.5mb

Posted by Yan on Aug-25-2003 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by El~ZaPo
Well I gave it a go, and here's what I came up with.
It sounds kinda rough but I don't really feel like doing it again.

download here: Transition.mp3
1:34, 1.5mb

Overall, it sounds really good. The only thing that I should complain about is the fact that Silence's "first few tune beats" clashed with Saltwater's tune...

Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-25-2003 02:49:

yeah, i thought it sounded pretty good.

not in key, and there is a little weirdness there, but aiight sounding, i have heard tiesto do much worse!

Posted by Xavier on Aug-25-2003 06:46:

dont you have drag silence's pitch heaps heaps low? its like mixing something thats almost 140bpm with something that is 120-129bpm range.

Posted by Acid John on Aug-25-2003 09:31:

uhhh, yeah....

when i downloaded it, all i got was a 4 second clip.... whats up with that?

Posted by Tiger777 on Aug-25-2003 09:57:

started of very good, but you should've gotten saltwater out when the singing started.

Posted by DJ Charlie on Aug-25-2003 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
started of very good, but you should've gotten saltwater out when the singing started.

this is rule number 1 when mixing... never mix into singing parts
unless the vocals are little 2 seconds samples that you hear a few times in the track.

Posted by Rememberence_ on Aug-25-2003 14:02:

Thanks for the feedback people, and for giving it a shot El~ZaPo. Here is one that I came up a while ago, one of the only ones that kinda works. It's very abrubpt, but it still kinda flows okay... give me your thoughts.

Download: 128kbps, 1min 49sec, here

Posted by El~ZaPo on Aug-25-2003 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier
dont you have drag silence's pitch heaps heaps low? its like mixing something thats almost 140bpm with something that is 120-129bpm range.

Yeah, I left saltwater at its original speed, but had to put down Silence by about 5-6%.

quote:
Originally posted by Acid John
uhhh, yeah....

when i downloaded it, all i got was a 4 second clip.... whats up with that?

I don't know... try downloading it again? It should be 1:34.

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
started of very good, but you should've gotten saltwater out when the singing started.

I actually thought this part sounded ok. Maybe off-key but there's nothing I can do about that.

Rememberence_: I listened to your transition, it sounds ok but like you said, very abrupt. Other than that, its fine. These songs just weren't meant for each other. They could go together in a set fine, just space them out with a few tracks in between, raise the BPM of the set up some during these songs.

Posted by Rememberence_ on Aug-25-2003 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by El~ZaPo
Rememberence_: I listened to your transition, it sounds ok but like you said, very abrupt. Other than that, its fine. These songs just weren't meant for each other. They could go together in a set fine, just space them out with a few tracks in between, raise the BPM of the set up some during these songs.

I'm leaning towards changing the tracklisting for my set like you said. Thanks for the effort though!

Posted by rqpeyruxvg on Aug-27-2003 12:49:

I listened to both the transitions and the first was good but the vocals clashed and the beats starting silence off killed it a bit. personally i would have crossed the fader as silence started. The second transition was better but my theory was probably the wrong thing to do as i have jus said above...

maybes use the new thrillseekers remix? you may get a better result or could wait for the original to break out and make a funky mix out of it...

jus a few suggestions, im not the best dj tho.

tezz

Posted by Tiger777 on Aug-27-2003 14:37:

I tried the thrillseekers mix. You can get the tunes matched on silence +2%. But, it isn't possible to bring silence in the last 1:30 minit. The beat pattern changes totally and makes a transition impossible.