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lets see what mind-pollutionist cyusking has to say about this

*censored due to lack of counter arguments by opposition*

Once again, here is reality, presenting a different side

lets probe the future: i predict "oh this guy just showing that Israel is the victim, but what about the poor palestinians!"

or maybe

"they are obviously not objective, because they take israel's side!"

LOL

blow me...

sick of all this middle east BS!!!

anyone who has family in the middle east, whither in iran, or syria, or israel for that matter! know's that finding the REAL truth here is like finding the truth of what will happen during a presidental campaign!

those same people know when someone is truly against one party or the other based on their views.

That is an example of this forum.

moderators should finally ban people that continue with this propaganda!!

Orwellian media coverage
By Doron Kescher August 27, 2003


On reading this morning's newspaper and Internet headlines, I was reminded of an episode described in George Orwell's landmark book Nineteen Eighty-Four:

"There had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it." [George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four]

The protagonist wondered how it could be that the whole world was overcome with collective amnesia over an event which for all intents and purposes should still be so fresh in their minds? The assumption drawn is that the masses either wanted to or needed to believe what they were being told.

On reading this morning's papers, I was confronted with the following headlines dealing with Israel's dispatching another Hamas terrorist to the eternal barbeque:

"Islamic Militant Groups Say Truce Is Dead After Israeli Strike" (New York Times, August 21, 2003);
"Hamas ends cease-fire" (CNN Online Edition, 21:24 GMT August 21, 2003);
"Israel Kills Hamas Leader, Militants Abandon Truce" (Reuters, August 21, 2003);
"2 militant groups end Israel truce" (International Herald Tribune, August 21, 2003);
"Hamas ends cease-fire after leader killed" (Toronto Globe and Mail, August 21, 2003);
"Cease-fire over, say militants as missiles kill Hamas leader" (Sydney Morning Herald, August 22, 2003).

The media's interpretation of the story is more than subliminal: Hamas ended its cease-fire* after Israel killed one of its leaders. This is the message that has come from the mouths of Hamas representatives, and has been mindlessly parroted by the world media.

It is unbelievable that not a single journalist around the world considered the suicide bus bombing of August 19, 2003 - in which 20 Jews were slaughtered and more than 100 maimed - to be an end to the so-called cease-fire. Not a single journalist considered the previous 2 suicide bombings in which 'only' two Jews were murdered to be an end to the phony cease-fire.

How is it possible that not a single journalist even thought to question this?

According to the Hamas/media line, neither the terrorist acts nor the re-arming and reorganization of these groups constituted a breach of the cease-fire. Instead, the media chose to focus on the Israeli decision to eliminate a man who was actively involved in planning past and future murderous attacks as the event that broke the cease-fire.

The mind is confounded when searching for an answer as to why the media need or want to believe that it was anyone other than the Islamic terrorist groups that ended the cease-fire.

This collective amnesia and denial - in the face of manifestly obvious facts - has very few rational explanations. The Orwellian assumption is that the world's media either need or want to believe that the cease-fire collapse was due to Israel.

Given the rampant anti-Semitism in many journalistic circles of late, it is unfortunately not too difficult to understand why the media may want to believe that it is the Jews' fault that the cease-fire is dead. As for those journalists who are not innately hostile to Jews, one can only assume that questioning the 'party line' would not be a smart career move.

What a sad world it is when our journalists are either too prejudiced or too frightened to tell the truth.

* I use the term cease-fire out of convenience. In actual fact, the almost imperceptible lull in terrorism over the last seven weeks is best described by the term which the Palestinian Arabs themselves use: hudna. A hudna - unlike a cease-fire - is an Islamic construct whereby a party agrees to a temporary truce in order to re-arm and then once again attempt to slaughter the party with whom they had agreed the said hudna.

((((("""""someone needs to beat cyrusking down hard... I'm willing to throw down for a beating session!! """"")))))) <- BAron

^^^^^Do u know what your saying here??^^^^^^
-Promoting violence
-promoting comformity

Ever heard of free speech?
Not everyone HAS to agree with u.
Y do u care so much about what he has to say anyway? HE doesnt run a country or anything. His ideas arent going to effect your life in any signifigant way unless your obsessed with him.

P.S. U dont need to make three threds to get attention.

3 threads was a browser problem sorryyyyy


ya im promoting violence.

atleast im doing it bluntly and not trying to hide under some propaganda!

I openly hate these people that try to be logical and objective in their slandering of whoever, whither its the americans, the koreans, the israeli's, or anyone else!!!

ITS BULLSHIT what these people do...

the worst i find is cyrusking...

so smooth in his delivery of crap!

am i alone in knowin today the world is full of pussies that will never get anywhere cause they are all trying to justify everything???

yo this world is getting screwed up because western minds are getting MUSHY, and everyone else is realizing it....


you guys better get your acts together, soon it won't just be the arabs going against western mentality!!!!!!!!!

and to hit the bulleyes... europeans are sick of america too!!

damn man.... rough year ahead of us...

i predict bombs over america unfortunetly unless america grows balls, and starts beating down all these self-haters!!!

get the bloodyhell out of america!

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Originally posted by DJBARON 3 threads was a browser problem sorryyyyy ya im promoting violence. atleast im doing it bluntly and not trying to hide under some propaganda! I openly hate these people that try to be logical and objective in their slandering of whoever, whither its the americans, the koreans, the israeli's, or anyone else!!! TS BULLSHIT what these people do... the worst i find is cyrusking... so smooth in his delivery of crap! am i alone in knowin today the world is full of pussies that will never get anywhere cause they are all trying to justify everything??? yo this world is getting screwed up because western minds are getting MUSHY, and everyone else is realizing it.... you guys better get your acts together, soon it won't just be the arabs going against western mentality!!!!!!!!! and to hit the bulleyes... europeans are sick of america too!! damn man.... rough year ahead of us... i redict bombs over america unfortunetly unless america grows balls, and starts beating down all these self-haters!!! get the bloodyhell out of america!

Um.. well i have a question and i want u to be honest. Whens the last time u smoked up? This isnt ment to make u look like a stoner or anyhtinhg its just that i used to talk like that and ive known allot of people who talked liek that while doing allot of drugs.

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Originally posted by Mikado Um.. well i have a question and i want u to be honest. Whens the last time u smoked up? This isnt ment to make u look like a stoner or anyhtinhg its just that i used to talk like that and ive known allot of people who talked liek that while doing allot of drugs.

he's jealous of me

comon mods, delete this (and the others) thread, this is just against one person, not any political stuff...

GO Cyrus King

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Originally posted by St_Andrew comon mods, delete this (and the others) thread, this is just against one person, not any political stuff... GO Cyrus King

Was this some kind of joke I didn't get?

Yay! Let's start a flame war!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King he's jealous of me

why ?

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Originally posted by Mikado -Promoting violence -promoting comformity

of course, the latter of the two being the worse.

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get the bloodyhell out of america!

he doesnt even live in america

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why ?

because cyrus usually replies with a calm and logical argument. DJBARON; however, seems to be just as biased (against anyone who doesnt believe that israel is some kind of great nation) and even worse he presents all this with a large amount of bitching, and shit talking.

Just delete this thread. you people (*cough* DJBARON *cough*) are s goddamn pathetic.

DJ BAron is lacking attention, becuase he is probably denied this in his life. To solve the problem, he goes on the internet in search of my attention, but he wont get it. Pathetic isnt it?

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 Just delete this thread.

??? u deleted this thred? its still here

I have to say I do agree with Barons rant about leavign the US.
Ive been down there a few times for extended trips and i really agree that there are better places to live.

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Originally posted by Mikado ??? u deleted this thred? its still here

did i say i deleted this thread? i'm not a mod, i can't delete threads. the only people who have that power are the mods and the people who started the thread. all they need to do is delete the first post, and the thread is gone.

He must have misread it with the "d" at the end of "delete"

fuck you cyrus king cuz your views aren't the same as mine.

that means i will kill you!







why can't we all get along. you are supposed to argue views here, not hate because they aren't the same as yours.

if dj baron so loves america and democracy well then thats what its all about. respect the other brother even if his views are different.

just because cyrus king is supporing palestine over israel doesn't mean he is supporting terorism. just as i think most of the people here who support isreal, even malech mike and schlmo melsovich or whatever his name is, don't support the killing of innocent palestinians. its just views and emotion cloud judgement over what maybe the most rational decision (if that even exists). emotion and ignorance are what leads to all this suffering and these are two things that it is extremly hard to get rid of and somehting we should all strive to beat but can't always be punished for because if it were there would be alot of people to be punished in this world.

sorry if i sourta rambled, too much cognac for me.

enough with this seriousness, time to go party and enjoy myself
might as well enjoy myself in this life instead of obsessing over ugliness in the world

pathetic

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because cyrus usually replies with a calm and logical argument. DJBARON; however, seems to be just as biased (against anyone who doesnt believe that israel is some kind of great nation) and even worse he presents all this with a large amount of bitching, and shit talking.

LOL

you seem to have a well based opinion of me not even knowing who or anything about me, after all I posted like 10 posts on this account?


hilter was able to be calm and collected in his arguments.

So is arafat and saddam. They all are clam and logical in their arguments.

so like... what does that mean?

Actually I am in an advanced post-collegate program that costs about $12,500, where 100 people get in a year, and its location is far from the shores of america. People from around the world go there, and only the upper .0001% can really have a chance.

i study from 7am until 10pm daily. 6 days a week.

2-3pm is my time off. I got to go to class in 20 minutes. That class is studying works from an author 200 years ago, the book is a play between the soul and the intellect, on issues deep enough to give you a headache.

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Um.. well i have a question and i want u to be honest. Whens the last time u smoked up? This isnt ment to make u look like a stoner or anyhtinhg its just that i used to talk like that and ive known allot of people who talked liek that while doing allot of drugs.

yes, like your depressed and unfulfilled western friends I am so lacking in happiness in reality, that I need to drug myself to bring on temporary feelings of happiness, that soon leave, reminding me of how pathetic my life is. LOL

thats the downfall of trance, too many crackheads fall in love with it cause its good drug music.

doesn't anyone appreciate it for its unique ability to combine the classical rhythms and riffs with a strong bassline, creating a sound that just plays into the deepest parts of the soul?

also the fact that there is no perspective-creation in the music! I mean with hiphop, you have the rapper shaping your feelings with that song from what he/she talks about (usually something sub-intellectual)

Trance just lets you feel what you want, and get what you want out of it. Such inspirational music!

Re: pathetic

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Originally posted by DJBARON LOL you seem to have a well based opinion of me not even knowing who or anything about me, after all I posted like 10 posts on this account?

You seem to have a knack for coming onto this political forum and posting your bullshit/extreme views without knowing how ridiculed youll get. You also seem to like to slander people after only posting only "like 10 posts on this account"

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hilter was able to be calm and collected in his arguments. So is arafat and saddam. They all are clam and logical in their arguments. so like... what does that mean?

So was Bill Clinton, Martin Luther King, and Ghandi!

You can make an argument by comparing TA's to Historical/poltical figures....its ridiculous.

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Actually I am in an advanced post-collegate program that costs about $12,500, where 100 people get in a year, and its location is far from the shores of america. People from around the world go there, and only the upper .0001% can really have a chance. i study from 7am until 10pm daily. 6 days a week. 2-3pm is my time off. I got to go to class in 20 minutes. That class is studying works from an author 200 years ago, the book is a play between the soul and the intellect, on issues deep enough to give you a headache.

Nobody gives a fuck where and how and what you study....this wont make you be taken seriously. And even if this school is so renowned, it certainly doenst seem to be doing its job...we just have to look at you as a prime example.

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yes, like your depressed and unfulfilled western friends I am so lacking in happiness in reality, that I need to drug myself to bring on temporary feelings of happiness, that soon leave, reminding me of how pathetic my life is. LOL thats the downfall of trance, too many crackheads fall in love with it cause its good drug music.

Did the BIBLE CODES tell you that...HAHAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHHA!!!!
There is a coming "downfall" of trance, meanwhile you just registered on trance forum this month, along with hundred of other people monthly.

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doesn't anyone appreciate it for its unique ability to combine the classical rhythms and riffs with a strong bassline, creating a sound that just plays into the deepest parts of the soul? also the fact that there is no perspective-creation in the music! I mean with hiphop, you have the rapper shaping your feelings with that song from what he/she talks about (usually something sub-intellectual) Trance just lets you feel what you want, and get what you want out of it. Such inspirational music!

Yes we appreciate it, that is why we are on these forums.. because we enjou this genre. The world doesnt revolve around you, only your ingnorant arrogance.

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Originally posted by DJBARON LOL you seem to have a well based opinion of me not even knowing who or anything about me, after all I posted like 10 posts on this account?

i dont have an opinion of you personally, but i do have an opinion of your post that seems like nothing more than a bunch of shit talking about someone whos views differ from your own.

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Originally posted by DJBARON hilter was able to be calm and collected in his arguments. So is arafat and saddam. They all are clam and logical in their arguments.

being calm in your arguments is a key strategy for validating your point.

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Originally posted by DJBARON Actually I am in an advanced post-collegate program that costs about $12,500, where 100 people get in a year, and its location is far from the shores of america. People from around the world go there, and only the upper .0001% can really have a chance. i study from 7am until 10pm daily. 6 days a week. 2-3pm is my time off. I got to go to class in 20 minutes. That class is studying works from an author 200 years ago, the book is a play between the soul and the intellect, on issues deep enough to give you a headache.

i could care less

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Originally posted by DJBARON doesn't anyone appreciate it for its unique ability to combine the classical rhythms and riffs with a strong bassline, creating a sound that just plays into the deepest parts of the soul? also the fact that there is no perspective-creation in the music! I mean with hiphop, you have the rapper shaping your feelings with that song from what he/she talks about (usually something sub-intellectual) Trance just lets you feel what you want, and get what you want out of it. Such inspirational music!

the only thing you said that i can agree with so far.

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being calm in your arguments is a key strategy for validating your point.

it is the basic principle to having an argument. nothing more.


this is a trance forum.

you guys may breath this forum, but I am here for the trance, and when i come and see all this shit here, it fucking pisses me off. I don't bother most of the time but just something about the fact that a trance website has people talking so much crap pisses the hell out of me


I am puzzled why swamper would allow this. Must get a good laugh out of reading the posts

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Originally posted by DJBARON you guys may breath this forum, but I am here for the trance, and when i come and see all this shit here, it fucking pisses me off.

then simply dont post in the political forum.

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Originally posted by DJBARON I don't bother most of the time but just something about the fact that a trance website has people talking so much crap pisses the hell out of me

if im not mistaken, it was you who titled this thread (and the others) "lets see what mind-pollutionist cyrus king has to say about this". were not the ones who are talking shit here.

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Originally posted by DJBARON I am puzzled why swamper would allow this. Must get a good laugh out of reading the posts

maybe its because some of us like a good discussion about whats going on in the world and swamper respects that.

Re: pathetic

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Originally posted by DJBARON LOL you seem to have a well based opinion of me not even knowing who or anything about me, after all I posted like 10 posts on this account?

Yes, on this account. But you have also posted a lot on your previous account, shlomo_hamalech, which was often signed by something like shlomo eliyahu baron if I'm not mistaken.

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hilter was able to be calm and collected in his arguments.

If that was calm I wonder how he looked when he was upset about his arguments.

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So is arafat and saddam. They all are clam and logical in their arguments.

Well, it wasn't hard for Saddam to be logical when he was obviously talking the truth about wmds.

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Actually I am in an advanced post-collegate program that costs about $12,500, where 100 people get in a year, and its location is far from the shores of america. People from around the world go there, and only the upper .0001% can really have a chance. i study from 7am until 10pm daily. 6 days a week.

I'm glad you're so successful, but that however is not in any way related to the quality of your arguments.

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yes, like your depressed and unfulfilled western friends I am so lacking in happiness in reality, that I need to drug myself to bring on temporary feelings of happiness, that soon leave, reminding me of how pathetic my life is. LOL

You'd be surprised then at how many of our eastern frands do drugs. As far as I know, largest amounts of narcotics arrive from middle east and south america, not really the western world as I imagine it.

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thats the downfall of trance, too many crackheads fall in love with it cause its good drug music.

Even the best things in life have their downsides.

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doesn't anyone appreciate it for its unique ability to combine the classical rhythms and riffs with a strong bassline, creating a sound that just plays into the deepest parts of the soul? also the fact that there is no perspective-creation in the music! I mean with hiphop, you have the rapper shaping your feelings with that song from what he/she talks about (usually something sub-intellectual) Trance just lets you feel what you want, and get what you want out of it. Such inspirational music!

I think it's fairly idiotic to speculate that noone on a trance-related forum appreciates trance.

Re: Re: pathetic

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I'm glad you're so successful, but that however is not in any way related to the quality of your arguments.

I'm not sure what measure of success it is, when one studies for 80+ hours every week and still cannot construct a coherent argument to support their point of view. I suppose it depends upon what one's objectives are - but if DJBARON's goal was to impress any of us, I think it goes without saying that he has failed miserably.

Ahhhh DJBARON, human stupidity at its finest.
'OOHH THAT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH AND THAT PISSES ME OF SO MUCH" you know what, im glad, im glad your pissed and unhappy and miserable. It just makes my day it really does That an imp with the IQ of wet shit can get soo effected by text on a screen, Im sorry to break it to you but your a sad case my dear friend. And the consensus view supports the allready blatantly obvious (just incase you haven't noticed not one person has posted a favorable post on your behalf) I suggest you hangout with the likes of tiesto14 and busychild im sure you guys can all relate....
-much love

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