"Israel Inquiry Finds Pattern of Prejudice Toward Arab Citizens"

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Posted by montie on Sep-02-2003 07:07:

"Israel Inquiry Finds Pattern of Prejudice Toward Arab Citizens"

Thought some of you might find this interesting since it seems like 90% of all the arguements on this forum are related to isreal in some way...

its yahoo news tho.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...ardarabcitizens

Posted by TranceGiant on Sep-02-2003 09:05:

Wheres the news?
Where's the obvious "and vice versa" ?
In every country minorities will be seen through the eyes of prejudice, especially in a country with this history and where this minority is more or less "linked" (if only culturally) to people who are de facto waging war against you.

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While many Israeli-Arabs say they enjoy political freedoms and economic opportunities that they might not find in Arab states, they generally also say that they feel like second-class citizens.

It's vital to keep that in mind. About them being second-class citizens, while its true to some extent, the situation keeps getting better and will actually completely SOLVE itself once the Israeli - Palestinian conflict is dissolved.

I just came from Israel, and went to this Arab restaurant once. Didnt we talk? Do you think there were attempts to kill each other while the food was served? My little cousin played with the owner's little girls actually and later we sat down and had some good arab coffee. There's no reason as to why it shouldnt work out. But first the Arab Israelis TEMSELVES should become clear about their own identity. Will they see themselves as Palestinians who wait to re-obtain their "Palestine" or will they try to fully integrate themselves, adapt elemnts of Israeli culture, become partly Israeli.

Posted by Cyrus King on Sep-02-2003 16:57:

I think the treatment of arab israeli's is the similar to the situation of Blacks in America. Although they have freedoms like all other citizens, they are not seen as "equal" in the ladder of success.

Posted by DR86 on Sep-02-2003 17:50:

I've always wanted to know what the Arab Jews think about this whole conflict.

Posted by occrider on Sep-02-2003 17:53:

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
I've always wanted to know what the Arab Jews think about this whole conflict.

Ask Melech

Posted by DR86 on Sep-02-2003 17:55:

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Originally posted by occrider
Ask Melech

I mean A jordanian, iraqi or egyptian, etc. jew

Posted by occrider on Sep-02-2003 17:59:

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
I mean A jordanian, iraqi or egyptian, etc. jew

Yes I know ... ask Melech. I believe he is a descendant of arab jews. Pretty sure ...

Posted by DR86 on Sep-02-2003 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Yes I know ... ask Melech. I believe he is a descendant of arab jews. Pretty sure ...

Then i shall do that.

Posted by Viber on Sep-02-2003 23:15:

i agree with TranceGiant,i think that time will fix the probs of the arab israelies but first they need to define themselfs,if they will choose to be a law keeping israelies then they will be in a higher place like the "arab-jewish" people(even though there"s no such thing) - in israel that are now equal unlike the past

Posted by ZinG on Sep-03-2003 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
i agree with TranceGiant,i think that time will fix the probs of the arab israelies but first they need to define themselfs,if they will choose to be a law keeping israelies then they will be in a higher place like the "arab-jewish" people(even though there"s no such thing) - in israel that are now equal unlike the past

hey man enjoy reading this
http://www.thereverend.com/brick_te...gn11_01-03.html
as long as you define people they will be seperated and opressed

Posted by malek on Sep-03-2003 04:34:

hehe off topic, but funny

Posted by DaveSZ on Sep-03-2003 05:22:

^^^
It's partially true, but the terrorists are also equally responsible for the cycle of violence.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I think the treatment of arab israeli's is the similar to the situation of Blacks in America. Although they have freedoms like all other citizens, they are not seen as "equal" in the ladder of success.

Or Blacks in Canada.

Posted by Yoepus on Sep-03-2003 06:22:

first:

No doubt, Israel still has a long way to go to create a welcoming environment for all its citizens, however it is a young country, and I am sure thanks to report like this and a citizenary that is informed and aware it will only be a matter a time before a more cooperative and friendly environment appears.

I also believe however, that the current Palestinian hostilities cause a tenssion amoungst Arab and Jewish citizerny that will be hard to elevate till the conflict is over.

Saying that, lets put things in perspective:
http://www.texansforisrael.org/issu...uman_rights.pdf

quote:
Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
I've always wanted to know what the Arab Jews think about this whole conflict.

As far as I know Arab Jews show no discernable patterns against Western Jews regarding western Jews if we were to talk abotu spectrum, if we were to judge by their voting patters however, they tend to support more right wing policies, and are big backers of the Likud and religious parties in the parliment.

As for Arab Israelis, they are currently experincing an identity crisies, half say they are Israelis, the other they are Palestinians, they simply can not decide at this time.. and this is very troubling both to them and other Israelis.

Posted by montie on Sep-03-2003 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
http://www.texansforisrael.org/issu...uman_rights.pdf

hahahaha

Posted by Yoepus on Sep-03-2003 16:39:

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Originally posted by montie
hahahaha

What, the information if published by Freedom house: http://www.freedomhouse.org/ratings/

What's so funny about that?

Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Sep-09-2003 00:25:

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Saying that, lets put things in perspective: http://www.texansforisrael.org/issu...uman_rights.pdf

This looks a bit too subjective.

Go here: http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-isr/index

Posted by melech_mike on Sep-09-2003 01:31:

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
Then i shall do that.

You said you ask me on Sept 2nd, guess you just haven't had the time to get to the question.

Posted by melech_mike on Sep-09-2003 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
But first the Arab Israelis TEMSELVES should become clear about their own identity. Will they see themselves as Palestinians who wait to re-obtain their "Palestine" or will they try to fully integrate themselves, adapt elemnts of Israeli culture, become partly Israeli.

When we talk about "Arab Israeli's" here, I feel that your talking about Arab-Jews. Others may see it as Muslim Israeli's. Some on this board may get confused, so subsituting Arab Israelis (who can be Jewish or Muslim), with Muslim Israelis would be more appropriate, and clear.

Posted by DR86 on Sep-09-2003 02:56:

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Originally posted by melech_mike
You said you ask me on Sept 2nd, guess you just haven't had the time to get to the question.

nooo...i just forgot about this thread, foo.