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could someone post all the dance genres (like trance techno house prog house prog trance dnb tribal house etc etc) and with 2 songs that could define a genre?

Ishkur's Electronic Music Guide v2.0 will be nearing completion in a few days. He will provide all the samples and jaded, biased definitions of every genre you could possibly want.

So just stick around a bit until it's done. There's no real comparison over the net that I've ever found to his.

Instead of starting a completely new thread I thought I would dig up an older one that was similar for my question. How would you define tribal its subgenres if any. I believe I was at a club and was expereincing it but not sure.

Check this link:

ISHKUR

Then just click on 'Ishkur's Guide to Electronic music'. It'll bring up a Flash application with loads of info on the different genres. Click 'House' and then 'Tribal' and listen to the samples he's got on there. That should give you a fair idea of what tribal is.

theres sooooo many different kinds...and people make up other kinds as well..........unendless possibilities i think

prepare to be confused, Toufas!


http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~gaijin/genres.html

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Originally posted by DJ Joshua H prepare to be confused, Toufas! http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~gaijin/genres.html

I've said it once, and I'll say it again:

Handbag

^^^^ LOL.....Handbag....like what kind of shit where they on when they thought of that one!??!?!

handbag house has been around since the early nineties, long before what we now call trance

That's funny, because one of the first trance tracks (if not THE first) was released in 1990.

Not to mention certain research on the arpeggiated, hypnotic layering of trance and those ambient washes were common (without a four-to-the-floor beat) many years earlier in the form of the work of Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, and others. So add a kick drum and meaty bass and you're almost set to go. Of course, the tricks have increased over the years like a stabby, echoed (delayed) sound effect at the beginning of 4/8 bars, or panned gate effects moving inside the speakers back and forth, but the core principles are indeed the same.

Pshhh... when in doubt, invent your own genres.

DJ Joshua H: Haha... it's funny that list was last updated in '02. Oh boy are we in for timeshock.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM!

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Originally posted by Radagast That's funny, because one of the first trance tracks (if not THE first) was released in 1990.

name of the track?

I'm interested to hear what the first trance track was like

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Originally posted by kr00t0n name of the track? I'm interested to hear what the first trance track was like

I believe he is referring to Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Ishkur's Electronic Music Guide v2.0 will be nearing completion in a few days. He will provide all the samples and jaded, biased definitions of every genre you could possibly want. So just stick around a bit until it's done. There's no real comparison over the net that I've ever found to his.

IMHO that guide sucks. So many useless genres and subgenres of subgenres. Damn genrewhores!

LOL, Ishkurs guide. The most biased and ignorant description of EDM genres ever. Utter crap. Avoid that site, especially if you are beginner in trance.

Actually, the first trance track was The KLF- What Time Is Love? (Pure Trance Original) in 1988.

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Originally posted by 3xx3r7 LOL, Ishkurs guide. The most biased and ignorant description of EDM genres ever. Utter crap. Avoid that site, especially if you are beginner in trance.

exactly wot i think. i mean yeah if u know ur shit already then u can make sense of the bullshit in there, but every1 seems to direct new guys to it who just wont have a chance of comprehending the crap in there and if they do manage to then they will know the wrong stuff because nearly all the example tunes he uses are so wrong its ridiculous.

one day ill stop winging and make my own

ok i made a very quick run down of some genres with examples. hope it helps. and i know its not hugely comprehensive but u get the idea. Like i said one day i will make a decent set of examples and explanations

Progressive House

Examples : Really cant be arsed to think of any examples

Progressive Trance

Examples :

Piece Process - Solar Myth
Andain - Beautiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden Unplugged Mix)
James Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix)

Melodic Trance

Examples :

Armin van Buuren - Burned With Desire (Rising Star Remix)
Envio - Touched By The Sun
Chicane - Autumn Tactics (Thrillseekers Club Mix)

Epic/Uplifting Trance

Examples :

Re:Locate - Waterfall
Pervading Call - Destiny (Ace's Delight Instrumental Mix)
Plastic Boy - Silver Bath

Tech Trance

Examples :

Marco V - The Mutalisk
The Freak - Rising Angel
Mike Robbins - Are You A Freak (Marcel Woods Tech Trance Mix)

European Hard Trance

Examples :

DJ Scot Project - O (Overdrive)
Signum - Coming On Strong (SHOKK Remix)
Kai Tracid - Conscious (Energy Mix)

Hard Tech Trance

Examples :

Mark Norman - Phantom Manor
F&W - You Will Understand
Igor S - Boomerang (Igor S Mix)

UK Hard Trance

Examples :
Lee Haslam - Music Is the Drug
Guyver - Differences
Organ Donors - Blackout

Hard House / Hard Dance

Examples :
Tony De Vit - The Dawn
Justin Bourne - Get Back
(cant think of any decent examples)


Hardstyle

Examples :

Deepack - The Prophecy
Marc Et Claude - Loving You (DJ Isaac Remix)
Tuneboy - Demolition (Technoboy Remix)

Techno

dont wanna give any examples as i dont know any of the subgenres. but some1 else can if they like

Breaks

Examples :

Hyper Vs General Midi - We've Been Waiting
Nubreed & Luke Chable - One Day
Hybrid - Finished Symphony

Drum N Bass

Examples :

Pendulum - Another Planet
Dillinja - Hands In The Air
Concord Dawn - Don't Tell Me

There will be neverending, REDUNDANT arguments about this. Just listen what well-intentioned others have to say, and then decide for yourself what is what. I try not to convince you but I do tell you why I have convinced myself.

Is it the spoon that bends or is it you? Or are you both bending each other?

Regardless of the path you choose, I wish you much enjoyment in your journey through the realm of music. One man may call a bird a bird, and another woman may call it a oiseau, but is beauty not beautiful? Would a rose smell so sweet by any other name? Why is Charmin' Ultra so soft?

Enjoy.

Why not just list some DJs/producers that fit each genre?

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Originally posted by Galapidate Why not just list some DJs/producers that fit each genre?

Yeah, I mean, up there, DRM sure represented his tastes in music well with that. That's a totally cool thing to do.

Problem is if extending arguments begin -- i.e. Person A lists some DJs/producers, and then Person B says "THOSE AREN'T PROGRESSIVE TRANCE ARTISTS!!!" And then the thread goes to hell in a handbasket.

One reason I like Ishkur's Guide so much is that even though it has a very snarky, sharp sense of humor, the sounds are invaluable and pictograms of a genre map are a lot of fun. OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO READ THE DISCLAIMERS!!! Take it with a grain of sugar. Or a grain of salt. Your choice. *sighs*

But seeing as how no direct alternative to Ishkur's (we'll call it EDM AT ISH'S like EAT AT JOE'S) currently exists -- at least not one that I know of, and if you know of one please let us know! It's better to check it out and decide for yourself instead of never having seen & heard it. Only by collating and collaborating multiple sources can you establish a well-defined, accurate personal thoughtline. Otherwise, it's like shooting blanks without a gun.

Raw data is processed by the self and then mined into usable information. Similarly, only after digesting food can you make use of it. Juggling apples and oranges may be a tricky feat, but it's not the same as being fed.

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Originally posted by 3xx3r7 LOL, Ishkurs guide. The most biased and ignorant description of EDM genres ever. Utter crap. Avoid that site, especially if you are beginner in trance.

Ishkur has an opinion. You're opinion differs. If you don't agree with Ishkur's opinion that's your own problem, but it doesn't make his guide any less accurate. And quite frankly, I'd trust his knowledge on EDM over yours. He doesn't like trance. You don't like what he says about trance. Who's wrong there? Nobody. Stop being hypocritical.

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Originally posted by DRM Progressive House Examples : Really cant be arsed to think of any examples

Hernan Cattaneo's stuff perhaps?

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Originally posted by aspergian But seeing as how no direct alternative to Ishkur's

http://members.rogers.com/mlomas/2Egg.html
http://www.ibiblio.org/raves/storie...ges/nails.shtml
http://phobos.plato.nl/e-primer/
http://www.intuitivemusic.com/technoguide.html
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?...0934&sql=F0ELEC
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music
http://www.electronicmusic.com/
http://music.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/e...eamhistory.html
http://www.raw42.com/cgi-bin/genre_guide.pl?refer=raw42
http://www.phinnweb.com/history/
http://www.krooga.com/graphics/kroogamusicstyles.jpg
http://www.electronicscene.com/
http://analogik.com/res_styles.asp
http://www.nolaed.com/elecdict.htm
http://kzsu.stanford.edu/eklein/
http://giedriaus.infoseka.lt/hardcoretechno.html
http://www.jahsonic.com/

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