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First turntables, what should I buy???

Hey, I want to get into scratch turntablism, and am shopping around for a quality pair of decks. I was thinking of buying the Stanton Spin Cycle Pack, but somebody informed me that the torque is so hopeless that you can't do shit on it. That true? Or could somebody tell me a good set around the same price, or any other advice you could give me? Thanks in advance

I would advise against buying anything in a pack, especially those beginner or entry level packs... the mixer they throw in is usually crap and lacking in functionality you will want later.

The problem with scratching is you need high torque decks to do it, other wise the platter will stop every time you touch the record. If you have the money get some STR8-100's. 1200s are good decks and have the torque but they have curved tone arms and straight is better for scratching.

Make sure you get a mixer that is good for scratching too... for the price you really cant go past the behringer vmx-200, or vmx-300 for a bit more.

STR8-100's are very good if you're going for scratching. If money is no problem, get the STR8-150. They have alot more torque.

Also, make sure you get special scratch needles. I suggest the ortofon Scratch
http://www.new-line.nl/webshop/view.asp?i=11151

Also the vestax PDX-2000 are great for scratching, as they have the straight tonearm and good torque. I'm not quite sure, but they're about in the same price range as the Stantons mentioned above.

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Originally posted by JMG Hey, I want to get into scratch turntablism, and am shopping around for a quality pair of decks. I was thinking of buying the Stanton Spin Cycle Pack, but somebody informed me that the torque is so hopeless that you can't do shit on it. That true? Or could somebody tell me a good set around the same price, or any other advice you could give me? Thanks in advance

Forget stantons, Vestex, if you can't afford Technics, your only other choice should only be Numark TTX1s. They are great for scratching and come with both a straight and S shaped arms, plus the pitch adjustment and control panels are switcheable making them a very nice and easy to use in a battle style set up.

Cheers...

vestax pdx-2000's i hear are great for scratching.

i also hear the numark ttx1's are good too.

make sure you get some good scratch needles also.

if you seriously want to get into scratcing/turntableism, i'd start checking some hip hop forum boards.

you didn't elaborate much into what you want to spin, but normally the scratching/turtableism goes along with hip/hop stuff so check into those places.

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Originally posted by DJ Tranz Forget stantons, Vestex, if you can't afford Technics, your only other choice should only be Numark TTX1s. They are great for scratching and come with both a straight and S shaped arms, plus the pitch adjustment and control panels are switcheable making them a very nice and easy to use in a battle style set up. Cheers...

Dont listen to this idiot, stantons are as good if not better than any turntable vestax make (which by the way are more expensive than technics for the models that are any good). And as i said above, technics are great decks but not as well suited to scratching because of the s tone arm.

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Originally posted by RobertRollie Dont listen to this idiot, stantons are as good if not better than any turntable vestax make (which by the way are more expensive than technics for the models that are any good). And as i said above, technics are great decks but not as well suited to scratching because of the s tone arm.

Hey, WTF is your problem??? and where do you get your information? B4 you go and start calling me names, let me tell you tht I work for ProAudio equipment store and I know a whole lot more about ProAudio and ProDJ Equipment than you, so take your childish namecalling shiet somewhere else!!! This forum is not for people like you! The poster asked for professional opinion and guess what, he got one from a professional ProAudio Equipment person who deals with these questions and customer inquiries/complaints on daily basis, yup that's ME!!! So keep your name calling, childish remarks to yourself.

Whoa!!!! go Tranz!

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Originally posted by SgtFoo Whoa!!!! go Tranz!

Yes Sir! Will Do, Sir!!! hehehehe, thank you Aren! Did Danny from our office contact yesterday regarding your order? Cheers...

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Originally posted by DJ Tranz Hey, WTF is your problem??? and where do you get your information? B4 you go and start calling me names, let me tell you tht I work for ProAudio equipment store and I know a whole lot more about ProAudio and ProDJ Equipment than you, so take your childish namecalling shiet somewhere else!!! This forum is not for people like you! The poster asked for professional opinion and guess what, he got one from a professional ProAudio Equipment person who deals with these questions and customer inquiries/complaints on daily basis, yup that's ME!!! So keep your name calling, childish remarks to yourself.

Watch your mouth kid, ive been working in sound production for 10 years, concert and studio, and in that time ive setup, used and repaired practially every kind of professional audio equipment from most manufacturers in the industry. So Id be VERY careful where you go waving your 'i work in a pro audio store' penis around becaue you might have to back up what you way with actual facts.

I called you an idiot because im sick of every dickhead wannabe dj spewing thier personal opinions like its fact. If i had a dollar for every time some idiot said 'technics are the only decks worth buying' and when i asked him why the only thing they would come up with was 'theyre the industry standard', id be a fucking millionaire. You think you know so much, fine smartarse. You told this guy to forget stanton or vestax (not vestex, you should know better if you work in a pro audio store), but you didnt offer any reason as to WHY he should.

Can you give me one good reason why? And youll have to do better than sprouting some technics-nazi shit about how everyone who knows anything uses technics. Both Vestax and Stanton's competing level turntables have the same if not more torque and shit loads of functionality that technics stubbornly refuses to include in any of their models. The only reason 1200s are the industry standard is because theyre practically indestructible, but I've gigged with str8-100's and pdx2000's and they are quite sturdy and durable as well.

Then you come out with 'if you cant afford technics buy a ttx1', which is a stupid thing to say considering the ttx1 and the 1200 are practally the same price. I would have expected you to know that if you work in a pro audio store.

So mr fucking know it all, step up and show us all how much you know. Or maybe you should just shut up before you embarass yourself.

yeah i thought as much.

ttx's are $350, 1200's are $500. so 2 ttx's = $700, 2 1200's = $1000. that is not "practically the same price" unless you are retarded, which from the sound of it you may very well be.

You can easily get Tech 12s (M3Ds or MK2s) for $400 and the normal price for a TTX1 is also $400. If you know people you can get the Techs for ~$350 and the TTX1s for the same price (I payed $360 a peice for mine and a friend payed $350 a peice for his techs). I haven't used any of the Stanton tables (besides very cheap ones) so I can't comment on their quality and such. I personally don't like the PDX-2000 and if I remember correctly it's in the same area pricewise as the TTX1 and Techs.

I've got some really shit belt drive decks and I'm the daddy on them

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Originally posted by gsx ttx's are $350, 1200's are $500. so 2 ttx's = $700, 2 1200's = $1000. that is not "practically the same price" unless you are retarded, which from the sound of it you may very well be.

Didn't the other poster say something about not posting fucked up facts ?

i've never seen 1200's for $400 except for on ebay. plz paste a link. heres the ttx1 for $325:

http://store.yahoo.com/djtronix/nuttprotuopb.html

and technics 1200's for $460:
http://store.yahoo.com/djtronix/teslblfrsh.html

lets see here... $650 for ttx's or $920 for technics

so i was off by a few bucks. those are hardly "fucked up" facts.

First of all, the TTX you posted for $325 is an openbox/ DEMO unit.

etronics.com - both mk2 and m3d for $389
upstairsrecords.com - both mk2 and m3d for $395.
musiciansfriend.com has m3d for $399

and the list goes on and on.

hey thanks for the sites. i didn't know you could get 1200's for so cheap. well after knowing this why WOULDNT someone get the technics??

Some people, such as myself, prefer the TTX1s (or maybe even the stantons) to the Tech 12s. I own a Tech 12 too and will eventually pickup a second one so I can stay used to those while getting to use my prefered table at home and to record mixes.

I pickup all my equpiment at my local Guitar Center because I have a couple friends that work there and the advertised price there is always $399 for Tech 12 M3Ds. It used to be $499 but within the past year the price was lowered.

you can definitly get 1200s for $400 new, they arent the mk5s but you can get mk2s. im not bashing any other table, but i really love my 1200 m3ds. and i know DJ Kilmore (my fav scratch DJ) uses 1200s.

I've settled on the Stanton ST-100's and SMX401 3-channel mixer. I've already got the mixer, but the t/t's have been on b/o for a couple of weeks now and I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on them. I had originally decided on the Technic 1200's but I figured for the first go 'round these should be more than adequate and I should get at least 2-3 years of hard use before going with the 1200's. But then again, I may be quite pleased with these units and see no need to but get the latest model when the time comes.

Even though it's all "said and done", thoughts anyone?

If it makes any difference, I'll be mixing mostly trance and hard-house.

Ok, now imagine i get the stanton str8 150 20 years passed it works perfectly, will it beat the techs 1200's? Since, the whole thing about the techs is about wich deck last longer etc... etc... tell me if im rong im probably rong

just to get back to the pricing on the numark TTX1 i found an online store that is selling those for 399.99 for one turntables...now the same online store is selling Technic SL-1200MK5 for an undisclosed price....says you have to call to find out....so i called cause i was courious.....and because im new and im shoping around for equipment before i dive in....anyway
the price for the Technics were the exact same price as were for the TTX1 399.99 per tables....now i dont understand....
the only real reason i have heard people say they stand beside technics is because they are industry standerd....but if your willing to pay that much for a technic table...why not just go for the numark which as more features too it....
i know im convinced....
i was about to buy Technics...but now i think im gonna go with numarks just because of that....so what if they are not the industry standerd....
i would rather have more features then a more sturdy table...
its not like im going to be throwing the thing around my living room....
if im going to use a table for scratching im also going to buy a table that is just for scratching....
but thats my opion from a newbie that just been reading the topics to this board for one day....
man its amazing what i have learned for just looking around this forum....

by the way if you want to find out how much these tables are just give this number a call
1-800-391-8762
the operator on the other line quoted the price for the SL-1200MK5 at 399.99.....
the SL-1210MK5 is 459.99
and the SL-1210M5G is 529.99...

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