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Posted by specialK on Sep-03-2003 07:37:

Vestax PDX-2000

Just curious, does anyone have these and are they pleased with them? Are they well-built and suited to mixing as well as scratching? I know that they are respected in the hip-hop scene, but how many of you trance/house DJs use them?


Posted by DJ Tranz on Sep-03-2003 08:53:

Re: Vestax PDX-2000

quote:
Originally posted by specialK
Just curious, does anyone have these and are they pleased with them? Are they well-built and suited to mixing as well as scratching? I know that they are respected in the hip-hop scene, but how many of you trance/house DJs use them?


Forget about them, it's Numark TTX1s or Technics SL1200/1210 MKII/M3D/MK5/MK5G. Nothing else is comparable to the durability, reliability and dependability of Numarks or Technics.


Posted by Tiger777 on Sep-03-2003 12:01:

I'm not that big fan of numark, they're tonearms really suck.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Sep-03-2003 14:34:

I've used them, they're great.. but as someone else mentioned, there are better turntables on the market now.

Stanton ST150/STR8150, Numark TTX1 (which is now shipping with an improved 4.5kg/cm torque motor, matching the stanton's power) Even check out the PDX-2300 if you like the vestax line.


Posted by Tiger777 on Sep-03-2003 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
Stanton ST150/STR8150, Numark TTX1 (which is now shipping with an improved 4.5kg/cm torque motor, matching the stanton's power) Even check out the PDX-2300 if you like the vestax line.

I agree with that.
But, I can't deny that the arm of ALL numark turntables are pretty bad


Posted by dj darroch on Dec-07-2004 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
I've used them, they're great.. but as someone else mentioned, there are better turntables on the market now.

Stanton ST150/STR8150, Numark TTX1 (which is now shipping with an improved 4.5kg/cm torque motor, matching the stanton's power) Even check out the PDX-2300 if you like the vestax line.


Sorry to dig this topic outta grave but is this true that the TTX1 has the "improved 4.5kg/cm toque motor"?


Posted by tu_face on Dec-07-2004 16:02:

Re: Re: Vestax PDX-2000

the pdx2000 are a fantastic deck. in my opinion they shit all over the ttx1, and i finds them better to use than any technics deck.

they are incredibly durable and extremely high quality. the features are amazing and beat the shit out of anything else on the market. anyone who thinks the ttx1 is a better deck seriously needs their head looking at.

the new mk2 pro versions are even better, with new platter and tonearm setup.


Posted by dj darroch on Dec-07-2004 16:53:

Yea the mk2 pro vestax do look very cool.

I know there obviosuly designed towards scartchers/hip-hop dj's but Tu face are they brilliant for mixing?

Is it easier to beatmatch than it is with technics,ttx1 or the str8150's?

I read on another topics that Technics are only slightly better in terms of sound quality than the mk2 pro's but is this noticiable as a bedroom dj?


Posted by tu_face on Dec-07-2004 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch
Yea the mk2 pro vestax do look very cool.

I know there obviosuly designed towards scartchers/hip-hop dj's but Tu face are they brilliant for mixing?

Is it easier to beatmatch than it is with technics,ttx1 or the str8150's?

I read on another topics that Technics are only slightly better in terms of sound quality than the mk2 pro's but is this noticiable as a bedroom dj?


they are great for mixing. you need to get the right carts though (the straight arm gives a bit more record wear) but you can use the money you saved not buying technics or have a look at the pdx2300 with the J arm.

i find it easier to beatmatch using them, but thats because i am used to them, technics are really just as easy to beatmatch with, although i do find i can do it quicker on the vestax. as far as mixing with ultrapitch, the str8150 and ttx1 (and for that matter the technics m5g) are pretty hard to use as they just increase the pitch range on the fader, whereas the vestax just increases the starting point keeping the same accuracy on the fader.

as far as sound quality is concerned, certainly in the bedroom you won't notice much difference if any at all.


Posted by Zild on Dec-07-2004 17:57:

Vestax decks are supreme. I have some friends that don't scratch and use Vestax. The Numarks and the Stantons don't compare, for me Vestax is the only alternative to Technics. Personally I use Techs but thats only cause I couldn't imagine calling myself a DJ and not having at least 1 pair of Techs. I'm sure I'll get a pair of those PDX MK2s sooner or later.


Posted by dj darroch on Dec-07-2004 21:17:

Ok thanks for your 2 replies. You have made me even more keen to go & buy the pdx-2300 mk2 over the mk5g's since they are good as you make them out to be.

I like the fact that u can pitch bend which would be handy if a track is a tad out of sync with the one your are mixing.

Whats the wow & flutter like on the Vestax's? Is it noticable & will it at any point in mixing knock the track your are queing out of sync even though it was in sync like 10 secs ago.

I have experienced this problem a couple of times with the Numark TT200's but there isn't really a comparison is there!?

Though are they they best deck out there? I mean if its better than a mk5g then it must be?

The last question i want to ask you Tu Face is what do the 2300 mk2 pro's look like up front? Do they look ugly or not?


Posted by dj chex on Dec-07-2004 21:40:

Im kind of iffy on the pdx decks. I have friends that use em and love them, but, there are the small things i dont like. For example, the threading on the feet is plastic and prone to breaking (we actually broke one while moving) and second the platter is too high and thin for my personal liking. Otherwise, there great decks.


Posted by tu_face on Dec-07-2004 22:40:

the mk2 pro's have a lower profile platter

with regards to wow & flutter ratings, they are not as low as technics, but are perfectly good enough to beatmatch something for years. techs = <0.035%, vestax <0.075%. the rest of the pro's far outway the cons too!

with regards to looks, the pdx2300 mk2 pro looks very similar to the standard pdx2000, with added digital display (useless) and pitch bend stick, also comes in black:



i will stick my neck out, and say that this is THE best deck on the market, for djing purposes at least.


Posted by D Dubya on Dec-07-2004 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i will stick my neck out, and say that this is THE best deck on the market, for djing purposes at least.


...and the head is swiftly cut off at the neck


Posted by tu_face on Dec-08-2004 11:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
...and the head is swiftly cut off at the neck


oi, i need that you bastard.....


Posted by AboveBeyond on Dec-08-2004 22:19:

I just bought week ago 2 - Vestax PDX 2000 Mk2 Pro

They are great , and i find some things that better then technics.

Enjoy


Posted by beats and beeps on Dec-08-2004 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
the mk2 pro's have a lower profile platter

with regards to wow & flutter ratings, they are not as low as technics, but are perfectly good enough to beatmatch something for years. techs = <0.035%, vestax <0.075%. the rest of the pro's far outway the cons too!

with regards to looks, the pdx2300 mk2 pro looks very similar to the standard pdx2000, with added digital display (useless) and pitch bend stick, also comes in black:



i will stick my neck out, and say that this is THE best deck on the market, for djing purposes at least.

Yes,
That is the best dj turntable ever designed...so far of course.


Posted by Phantomrebels on Dec-08-2004 22:38:

I got the PDX 2000 and totally agree with tu_face. Who said that these ******s are not durable? I´ve got them 4 yrs. now and they never ever failed me. I used them on lots of raves- in the humidity of England, in the desert of Spain, with lots of sand... no probs. Even with a lot of wind the arm didn´t skip.

I don´t hear any sound difference towards the Technics... and I think they are more accurate and with a hell of a motor u can do everything.

Only problem- and this goes out to the clubs and organisers. Why always have the ol´ Technics set up?


Posted by AboveBeyond on Dec-08-2004 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantomrebels
I got the PDX 2000 and totally agree with tu_face. Who said that these ******s are not durable? I´ve got them 4 yrs. now and they never ever failed me. I used them on lots of raves- in the humidity of England, in the desert of Spain, with lots of sand... no probs. Even with a lot of wind the arm didn´t skip.

I don´t hear any sound difference towards the Technics... and I think they are more accurate and with a hell of a motor u can do everything.

Only problem- and this goes out to the clubs and organisers. Why always have the ol´ Technics set up?


you make me happy that i bought them
Vestax Rulz ;]


Posted by Zack Roth on Dec-09-2004 07:04:

Never used the Vesatx, but I have previously owned the TTx-! and currently have Techs. The Numark was a toy. I hated it.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Dec-09-2004 08:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
I'm not that big fan of numark, they're tonearms really suck.



I'm not trying to argue or anything, but what specifically is bad about them? I've never used anything other than my TTX-1's so I have no benchmark to compare them to.


Posted by tu_face on Dec-09-2004 10:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cheetah86
I'm not trying to argue or anything, but what specifically is bad about them? I've never used anything other than my TTX-1's so I have no benchmark to compare them to.


when i used them it seemed very plasticy and looked like it wouldn't last too many years. could be wrong though, it might still be here in 20, but it doesn't look/feel like it will


Posted by dj darroch on Dec-09-2004 16:51:

Arrow

Thanks for the replies about the Vestax.

I've decided i'm going to go for the pdx 2300 mk2 pro turntable's accompained with either a allen & heath mixer (xone 02,32 or 64) or a vestax, with shure whitelabels!

By the way is the xone 32 or 62 moderately ok for scratching? not too excessively, but for a beginner like myself to practive on?

I'll need to start saving now...gd job that xmas is round the corner - i can use some of my money to save for them

Edit: I'm going for the Ecler Nuo 5 mixer instead of the vestax or a&h


Posted by Zild on Dec-09-2004 17:47:

There is only one A&H mixer thats good for scratching and its a battle mixer. If you want a four channel mixer with effects that is awesome for scratching check out Ecler's new mixer.


Posted by DJ-MarkHills on Dec-09-2004 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch


By the way is the xone 32 or 62 moderately ok for scratching? not too excessively, but for a beginner like myself to practive on?




the a&h xone 64 is terrible for scratching with... the x-fader cut in is poor even with curve on. however, for mixing its enough to make any dj have a wet dream over it...



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