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I bought the book HOW THE DJ RIGHT so far I think it's really good but I have a question for you all on page 30th the writer wrote ><><><><> AVOID THE EVERYTHING IN ONE BOX "INSTANT DJ" PACKAGES,THOUGH:THESE ARE TOYS FOR BABIES .
Well I bought one of those packages "numark tt's with mixer and a pair of headphones, i think it was DJ IN A BOX from Numark , when I read that I got really dissapointed, when I bought them I didn't know about technics otherwise I would've bought apair of technics so my question is > what do you guys think about Numark TT's ? are they that bad ? I know that many of you guys have tryed so I'd like to how what your opinion is !
Thanks
I'm not actually a numark fan since the tonearms suck bad. But, I can assure you that every numark TT(except the TT1600 ofcuz) if much better than the tt I've got (witch is really a baby's toy). Fuck that book, djeez, what weirdo writes a book on "how to dj right".
Most people will agree with me here if I say that there is no right way to dj, do whatEVER you feel like doing.
The dj in a box setup is what I started with... 2.5 years later and I don't regret it at all. I can mix perfectly fine. I think too many people are afraid to think for themselves in the dj world. You have to make decisions for yourself eventually, don't always rely on other people or books for that matter..
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| Originally posted by jonnycarcinogen You have to make decisions for yourself eventually, don't always rely on other people or books for that matter.. |
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| Originally posted by Tiger777 Most people will agree with me here if I say that there is no right way to dj, do whatEVER you feel like doing. |
I agree with you on that for the basics. There is only 1 right way to beat and phrasematch. But, that's about it.
Next to that, you are absolutely free to do everything.
there is no right way to do things, cause everyone has different tastes opinions.
Because of what was written in that book, it doesnt mean that numark is bad quality for tts. Ive known a couple of djs who have owned numark tts and have been happy with them.
Once you get comfortable with them, you may learn to play on them just as good as on any technics. Its all about matter of preference.
The good thing about getting a dj in a box type deal is that everything is included to get you started, so you can get your feet wet and get the feel of the whole thing. You can start on a vinyl collection and get yourself going.
Later, you can upgrade the headphones, mixer and tts.
I've got the book and I wouldn't worry about certain specifics like that generally.
The only reason they advise against it is because usually the packs come with not-too-great budget TTs, a lousy mixer, worse headphones and worthless carts.
This isn't true for them all, a set like this generally doesn't last too long, but remember that a package is really just the same as buying all the pieces but instead its in one big box. The Numark Phat Pack looks like a pretty decent starter set... which one did you get? At least you didn't get belts im sure right?
i'd stay away from DJ packages because they tend to bundle second rate equipment together.
granted, a DJ is worth his skills not his equipment,
but it is more logical to research each piece you need and get it individually. it will cost you about the same in the end. if your gonna spend all that dough, you might as well get good equipment.
i started on technics, with a stanton rm-three mixer (it's decent) and sony v770 headphones.
it set me back, but it was a very wise investment.
right now i'm wanting to pick up a CD turntable.
Numark tables are decent. i wouldn't spend my money on one though unless it was a ttx1
dude i wouldnt worry about it too much. when i started djing i ended up getting hand me down numark cd players and a numark mixer with no eqs or gains and i can mix fine. my friend that i got this stuff from has denon 2600s and a denon x-800 mixer, naturally i like playing on his stuff more than i do mine but its all good. i am about to buy some turntables and a new mixer (with eqs) , probably some Numark tt-200s and a DJX700. its all good, from what i hear once you learn how to spin vinyl you can adapt to different turntables with out TOO much trouble, especially if your going from "ok" tts to technics or ttx or whatever. use the money that you saved buying an all in one kit and start a killer vinyl collection.
Good book, though don't take everything they say as gospel.
I've seen many high-end dj packages, 1210's n DJM300/PCV275/DM2000EX/etc
Dont let the book get you down 
First of all>Thank you guys.
The tt's I got are the Numarks 16.. Direct with a shi*** mixer+headphones then I upgraded the mixer (behringer300) and the headphones (Sony 700).
anyway I found out that some of the stuff on the book are just BS but still a great book !
Once again Thank
might want to grab a few tips out of that book
but dont dig your head in too deeply into a book.
"create yourself and not let others create you!"
Rob Energy
yeah i started w/ a dj package in a box, the stanton platinum pack II. now , i really wish that i held out to buy better stuff. but i was impatient...
i ugraded the headphones very very soon. next , 7 months later, the needles/headshell/cartridge (i bought ortofon concordes). next, the tts themselves! after spinning 2 nights in a row for a total of 4 hours on techs during gigs, i realized, holy crap, i can totally notice the difference b/t these tables and my stanton str8-80s.
my 2cents (again) <---- if you afford to go out and buy a set of tech 12s, good carts, a dope mixer, nice headphones, and start collecting vinyl then by all means go right ahead. you'll be better off, however not everybody has that much cash just lying around. alot of those dj in a box deals are junk but some of them arent too shabby. atleast they get you playing music and mixing. the headphones that come in most (all) of them suck but odds are your using them in your bedroom and thats one of the cheapest upgrades you can make. they (dj in box) also give you an opportunity to see if you really like doing it before you shell out mad loot. i know a few people that have some nice pieces of equiptment collecting dust. all i'm trying to say is if thats what you can afford go for it but try to get the best set up that you can. you've gotta start somewhere
Don't sweat it.
Hey Ikki,
Don't give yourself a hard time over this. Back when I started no one wanted to be a DJ and there was no such thing as DJ packs.. (And before anyone says it, no I'm not in my 40s).
I had one Sony TT... not sure which model and the deck with the torque from hell. It was a cheap no name brand that my dad got me from a boots department store. It had torque like none I have ever seen, it would make a 1210 look pathetic. If you caught your sleeve on it, it would have ripped your arm off. The crazy thing was that this was a belt drive. Although the belt was more like someone had taken the rubber from a tractor tire and molded it.
My decks had no pitch but the deck from hell did have the option of playing 78s.
My mixer didn't have a cross fader (not a problem as I still don't use the fader today) and only had one phono input. The way I got around this was thanks to the deck from hell which had it's own built in amp and line out option.
The point I am trying to make with this is that whatever gear I had, I was DJing.
The good thing about starter packs is that you get up and running at a lower cost than if you buy top gear. And who knows... you might not like it. The down side with that is that Technics have a better re-sell value than Numarks if you decide to move on.
The DJ community today is a strange beast that almost has myths of it's own. There is such a thing as general knowledge and then there is personal taste. People will always want to have opinions (Which is good) but just because it's written in a book it may not always be so. It might have been true when the book was written but may not be now... and so on.
For an example, you only have to look at the thread about headphones. some guy was telling everyone which headphones to buy. Granted, he knows masses about headphones but f*ck all about DJing.
I think a lot of DJs often forget what it was like to take the first steps into the world of DJing. There are many things you can learn on your decks.
Someone made the comment "There is no right way to DJ but there are many wrong ways". I have to agree with that, although there is a set structure to music there are so many ways to play around with it. But who is to say that you couldn't go against the structure and create something that still sounds awesome? Take Jazz for example, sometimes the musician will play a note or chord that is both out of tune and out of time to get your attention. This is called a blue note.
Who is to say that you couldn't discover the Trance Equivalent?
When the time comes, upgrade and enjoy the experience of playing on better equipment. Until then, enjoy what you are learning now.
Peace
Nem
ONCE again *THANK YOU* NEMESIS and thank you to all the other that answered my question !
Nemesis would you mind if I pm you with some questions? Let me know
Sure
Nem
I have found that starting off with "inferior" equipment can help make a DJ so much better when they get to use better equipment. If you are able to play on poorer decks and mixer then you can adapt to better set-ups that you would find in a club. And if a club has a "crap" set up - you are better equipped than somebody who has used only the best equipment.
I started off on Gemini PT2100's, good decks but with a major flaw in the way the plate is mounted on the decks. It doesn't feel smooth if you touch the plate, therefore it is hard to make accurate corrections touching the record, therefore I learned pitch only corrections. I gained because of my "inferior" equipment!
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