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Thats it! No more commercial and crap Trance for me!

Oh my god!
People, stop for a second and take some time to think...

Look where Trance has got! it bacame way to commercial and too much crap is going on in that scene!

I wanna go back 10 years back, to where the real bangs were here!
The Psychedelic Trance ruled the world! now... all crap trance, come on guys, what the hell has happened to the scene???

Every underground party doesn't take place in a big venue, only in forests and shit like that! I wanna go back to the good old days when Psy trance were the bomb and that crap that is called Trance now wasn't even alive!!!

bands like Astral Projection, Simon Posford, GMS, SUN Project, Talamaska, Infected Mushroom and many more perform in such small parties!

now you have band like Chat, Push, Dumonde and more that acually are in the top of the Trance scene today but hey, their tracks SUCKS!!!
Their tracks are for kids and old guys!!!!


NO MORE!!!
I Call anybody who thinks the same as me and help me bring back the Psychedelic scene to the world!!!


Gil Shwarts!

your stupid....really REALLY STUPID

Well I am sure if everybody felt the same way you did the scene would not be going were it is.....I am an old guy and I love dumonde, and the other greats....There still are little underground parties that play the classics...Personally I think it's evolution, and if it gets commercial in the process then so be it....It's not just because a song goes commercial it turns crap..... I am sure if you heard all the likes of Infected Mushroom and GMS on the radio everyday, you would be begging for the new trance....

you dont like dumonde and push? im sorry but they arent commerical trance. commercial is alice deejay, vengaboys, atb, darude. chesse. dumonde and push do not produce cheese. universal nation is one of the best songs ever. maybe if you dont like this kind of trance anymore you should leave the site? go to a forum for infected mushroom.

LOL!!

ofcourse that there are exaptions like Universal Nation and some othere but hey, the parties I play at and the clubs that invite me, I see that most of the people who come there are children and kids!
there are some guys who knows the thing and sometimes I get a banged out feedback from them but there's nothing I can do, Its my job to make people happy and that music sucks!
If there were more underground parties, the world could have been a better place!

and Phanta, SHUV IT YOU KNOW WHERE!

And get that stupid car from your page, we all know you don't have it!
you just saw it parking somewhere and you are dying to have it but since you are so moron you can't!
so you take a picture of it like its yours!
DUH,
how stupid could that be?

Jerk!

So seriuosly here...what is your point.....your an old DJ that doesn't want to change his style and is bitter because nobody is liking your music at parties anymore? *just observing here* Don't take it personally :P

there is something in what u say gil but push and domunde are commercial here in israel but the rest of the world is still hangin on this sort of music....
i love gms and hux flux mark allen... hale psy-trance

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So seriuosly here...what is your point.....your an old DJ that doesn't want to change his style and is bitter because nobody is liking your music at parties anymore? *just observing here* Don't take it personally :P

Well, no.
Acually, every party I attend has more than 10000 people, witch tell you that I don't attend alot of parties because I live in Israel but basicly, I perform in all the big events...

I'm just sick of that music and that scene, it took an ugly twist!
I don't like that one bit!
and, i've started to throw in some psy trance tunes to the end of my sets to let them leave the party with a real trance scene in their memory.


Gil Shwarts

you are very ignorant my friend

Hey godsfather
if you're from Israel...
do you remember the "Give Trance A Chance" in Cicar Rabin, 3 years ago?
that was fucking amazing
more than 150000 people attended there, the world should see the real face of that scene and go to Goa and such placed where Psy Trance rules!!!

Peace men!
We all hate commercial music here; we listen to the real
trance music.
But we have different taste, some of us listens to PvD, Tiesto,
or J.Jules others prefers prog trance or techno.
Your style is psy trance.
We can't change the world, just enjoy our music.
So listen psy trance, play psy trance at your parties and let
the stupid commercial to the unconscious peoples.

A wise man once said:

"If you can't beat them... Join them!"

thats what i've been doing so far, but hey, i've had enough.
for example, look how fucked up the scene is now, check out this track:

DJ Tiesto - Flight 643
this track has the most defective elements in an electronic tune!
wtf is that?

Jesus
at least in Psy trance, there is a meaning to the music, you get to acually fell your feelings, forget about world hunger, wars and all that crap and just "be together" with the rest of the people in the party!

Thats what psy trance is all about!

Gil Shwarts

Re: Thats it! No more commercial and crap Trance for me!

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Originally posted by Gil Shwarts now you have band like Chat, Push, Dumonde and more that acually are in the top of the Trance scene today but hey, their tracks SUCKS!!! Their tracks are for kids and old guys!!!!

There is no fucking way that Dumonde is commercial bullshit! Dumonde kicks ass, have u ever heard one of their livesets? Get the 2 that are on here and maybe your opinion will change http://home.no.net/djmixes/

I don't know if Flight643 has defective elements or not...
...I'm not a DJ. However, I like that track.
At least it's not commercial.


And Palivar stop posting idiot pics!

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I don't know if Flight643 has defective elements or not... ...I'm not a DJ. However, I like that track. At least it's not commercial

Lol dude, its the mother of all commercial trance tracks!!

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There is no fucking way that Dumonde is commercial bullshit! Dumonde kicks ass, have u ever heard one of their livesets? Get the 2 that are on here and maybe your opinion will change

Dude, I've heared and seen Dumonde... they are awsome, I myself have all their albums, mixes, remixes and shit but its only because the people like them so I play them!
I also saw the crowd there... the avarage age was 15!!!

the avarage age, if you want a good party, should be 20+!

So basically u're saying that 15 year olds don't know good music and only listen to commercial shit? I'm 15 and over here nobody even knows what trance is! So how can something be commerical if nobody even knows what it is?

The only reason why Dumonde is slightly commerical is because they've remixed Alice Deejay, Fragma and Anglelic (don't ask me why). At least Dumonde doesn't spin commercial crap.

So yout basically saying that the REAL trance is in ISRAEL ?!?! Cause all you are doing is naming how the trance culture in Israel is, and how trance has develped from there, nothing wrong with it.
You are actually, really into the PSY and GOA trance here, I mean, 1st of all, trance didnt just come from GOA, it was something like this, Techno, then the Trance, where in places like Singapore, and around those islands, Full Moon parties were held, making this Goa and Psy big, big in Israel as well, where mayor players are Astral Projection and so on .. yahel.. etc.. they are great, and is good to see a nation like ISRAEL into it alot. But just recently I heard a tune from astral that was not goa nor psy, but TRANCE , very good one, astral in israel is COMMMERCIAL TRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are in the top 40s and so on, so why are you screaming to Dumonde and Push !!!!!!!

Secondly, you say you find the PSY trance alot more emotional, and gives alot more feeling, and you call it real music.. If I were to say whats alot more real between PSY Trance, and Epic, uplifting trance.. I guess my vote goes to uplifting, I like some of the Psy and goa, but is all just a BEAT repeating, and music that was done for PSYCHEDELICS ! j/k , but hence the name brooo... is your taste, I respect it, but man, in part your point is a bit ignorant, all because PSY and GOA style is not getting much recognition doesnt mean that the rest of trance is commercial.

I also said that there are exaptions LiquidX, and as for Astral Projection, can you blame them that they've made a TRANCE track? this is the scene right now, they are trying to fit themself to the scene so they won't lose their publicity, same as Astral, Infected Mushroom are doing the exact same thing, fit themselves to the scene where it is now!
and I personally think it sucks man, it sucks bad! but thats only my opinion, also, my 1st post was my opinion and nothing beyond it.
I've just said what was on my mind, and whats on my mind is that people should get to know Psy trance better, I think it will make the world a better place

I've spoken about Israel because I live there, i've been to other places but the main thing here is that all over the world, epic and uplifting trance took over the scene and underground bands returned to the forests and shit like that.

About my thinking that Psy trance is more emotional... again, its my opinion, there are people who really enjoy uplifting trance and Epic tunes... I myself like them but hey, ENOUGH!
every 2 minutes a new Epic or Uplifting trance tracks is produced, how much crap can the scene get?

I'm sure you've been to a party where Psy trance music was playing... how was that party?
(As one who likes epic and uplifting trance tunes, I think I alrady know your answer but I want you to describe the party for me, if you've ever been to one...)


Gil Shwarts

let us enjoy the psy-trance parties let them enjoy their uplifting trance and commercial or whatever... i would personally prefer not not public psy parties too much.... its nice having unique people there....

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