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Hey Wicked Neo - here's a clue about the RIAA for you...

Aside from the fact that they are only concerned with the labels that are under their umbrella, there is nothing illegal about liveset mixes and in fact many bands/groups/DJs encourage reproduction of live sets as it helps spread their name. The only thing it is illegal to do is to share/sell albums that are sold in stores, etc.

There is nothing illegal about acquiring or burning live sets to CD. As far as compensating the person who does it if they are doing it for you, as long as they are not explicitly trying to make money off it, you can OFFER THEM compensation for their time and hardware.

Just thought you should know that so you can stop locking threads that shouldn't be locked such as these two which have NOTHING a allto do with what the RIAA is all up in arms about as you incorrectly claim:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1814282#post1814282
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1814273#post1814273

You're welcome.

Re: Hey Wicked Neo - here's a clue about the RIAA for you...

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Originally posted by JRock Aside from the fact that they are only concerned with the labels that are under their umbrella, there is nothing illegal about liveset mixes and in fact many bands/groups/DJs encourage reproduction of live sets as it helps spread their name. The only thing it is illegal to do is to share/sell albums that are sold in stores, etc. There is nothing illegal about acquiring or burning live sets to CD. As far as compensating the person who does it if they are doing it for you, as long as they are not explicitly trying to make money off it, you can OFFER THEM compensation for their time and hardware. Just thought you should know that so you can stop locking threads that shouldn't be locked. You're welcome.

Im pretty sure ur wrong about this, though i cant be arsed to explain why. Even if you were right, you shouldn't be going against a moderators wishes anyway.

Going against wishes? Do you have a clue what you're saying? Apparently not. I'm just enlightening him as to the reality of the issues with the RIAA. He can keep the threads closed for all I care - he's the mod. I'm just at least letting him know for the future the fact of the matter. That's all. Relax.

ever heard of something called a PM??

Apparently he's not the only one who doesn't understand the RIAA, so this needs to be somewhere people can read it.
Anyway, off to work. See ya later.

Explain to me your logic.


It is illegal to share singles.

So, how woud it become legal for you take 5 singles and use them in a mix, and then share that mix?

People openly talking about illegal file sharing is threatening TA's future. There's no need to mention it, unless of course you want TA closed, and ill assume you do .

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Originally posted by joeh152 Explain to me your logic. It is illegal to share singles. So, how woud it become legal for you take 5 singles and use them in a mix, and then share that mix? People openly talking about illegal file sharing is threatening TA's future. There's no need to mention it, unless of course you want TA closed, and ill assume you do .

exactly. i was just about to say all this. now you save my time.

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Originally posted by n0bben- exactly. i was just about to say all this. now you save my time.

for once joe speaks sensible and truthful, i must mark this day down on the calendar

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Originally posted by joeh152 Explain to me your logic. It is illegal to share singles. So, how woud it become legal for you take 5 singles and use them in a mix, and then share that mix? People openly talking about illegal file sharing is threatening TA's future. There's no need to mention it, unless of course you want TA closed, and ill assume you do .

First of all, most of these singles are only available on vinyl and even then most of them only in Europe. And on top of that none of them are on major labels (Vivendi, Universal, etc) and more so none of them are part of the RIAA. How many more levels of removal do you need before you understand how far removed that is from the RIAA?

AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT, I still never said people should sell them.

TA is in Canada. RIAA has no jurisdiction here, and the Canadian equivalent doesn't have the resources or the money to go after people like the RIAA does. Unless Swamper's using an American hosting company, I doubt TA is in any danger from the RIAA.

still think all kind of filesharing and stuff should be held apart from TA.

i say buy a portable recorder,
and don't forget to turn it on before you get too drunk.

Re: Hey Wicked Neo - here's a clue about the RIAA for you...

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Originally posted by JRock The only thing it is illegal to do is to share/sell albums that are sold in stores, etc.

Wrong, the format of the music is irrelevant. store cd or liveset rip, it's still the same music protected by the same copyright law you moron.

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There is nothing illegal about acquiring or burning live sets to CD.

wrong again. "burning" a track is copying it...and since when can you freely reproduce music without breaching copyright law in the US you moron?

never read a bigger load of crap in my life.

This is on the back of a European vinyl cover:

"Unauthorised copying, hiring, lending, public perfomance of this record prohibited."

not talking about RIAA, just talking about illegality:

- it is illegal to record radio streams, or to copy them

- it is illegal to copy/record singles avaiable only on vinyl or not, as long as they are copyrighted. livesets consist normally of a few copyrighted singles mixed together.

- it is even more illegal to make profit of it!

and if you want livesets, there is an easier way than trying to buy them from people. direct connect.

You`re obviously missing a point: Even if what you say is true, how can you be sure that it`s true for the whole world? This is an international forum and what might be legal in one country doesn`t have to be legal in another country.

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Originally posted by Sir. Lunchalot You`re obviously missing a point: Even if what you say is true, how can you be sure that it`s true for the whole world? This is an international forum and what might be legal in one country doesn`t have to be legal in another country.

International treaties (see Berne Union and the Universal Copyright Convention) which many countries sign to uphold a minimal standard of copyright protection for all countries involved. e.g. overseas work in the US is protected by US copyright law etc.

Copyright law is pretty universal. There are always exceptions but clearly the creator of this thread posted a load of crap.

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Originally posted by doof doofer International treaties (see Berne Union and the Universal Copyright Convention) which many countries sign to uphold a minimal standard of copyright protection for all countries involved. e.g. overseas work in the US is protected by US copyright law etc. Copyright law is pretty universal. There are always exceptions but clearly the creator of this thread posted a load of crap.

This is true however one country's organizations might not be as willing or able to prosecute violators of these laws as another countries.

Guy is just mad that neo closed his threads and he failed to use pm. Great logic

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Originally posted by xls This is true however one country's organizations might not be as willing or able to prosecute violators of these laws as another countries.

Agreed. But people here are not talking about the probabilities of being prosecuted...people are just making uneducated statements like "There is nothing illegal about acquiring or burning live sets to CD" with no qualifications. Just because its unlikely you will be prosecuted doesn't make it legal.

I wouldn't want my name attached to such a moronic post stored in the archives...


Interestingly though the U.S. District Court in Washington is approving federal subpoenas at a rate of over 75 per day in an effort to obtain personal information that the RIAA will use to file civil lawsuits.

it is illegal to record sets, it is illegal to share sets

it is illegal to burn sets on CD and sell them to other people

and you should PM'ed the guy instead of this message




gonna leave this open untill wicked neo sees it, then he can close this topic

the topic creator is a moron. it deserves to be public knowledge. a PM doesn't have the same effect

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Originally posted by doof doofer the topic creator is a moron. it deserves to be public knowledge. a PM doesn't have the same effect

true

this guy has openly called lots of people morons for not having a clue, when in actual fact the real moron is himself. it is u that really doesnt no what ur talking about, and not that ud care but uve probably lost the respect of most TA's now. so well done to u. now run along.

this has nothing to do with copywrite laws or international copywrite laws...the admin of the boards don't want people to talk about it so you don't talk about it. if you do keep talking about it without showing some amount of respect for the rules then you should be banned from the boards...

who me? no, i think i've only called 2 people morons today.

I'm simply correcting inaccurate statements that have been made for the benefit of other TA's who may be misinformed. If that loses me respect, well hey, i'll live with that.

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