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Posted by erullafs on Sep-12-2003 08:53:

Celeron or athlon

Hi,
I am looking to buy a notebook computer. Which is better? a Celeron 2.0Ghz or a Athlon 2200+ processor. I know the P4 may be better, but these are my choices for now.

Posted by jon on Sep-12-2003 09:02:

What programs will you be using on it?

Posted by [mart] on Sep-12-2003 11:31:

I'd have thought an Athlon would be better, but that's purely based on the fact that the word 'Celeron' sounds a bit like 'celery', and that's bad.

Posted by Ian on Sep-12-2003 11:44:

quote:
Originally posted by MaRt
I'd have thought an Athlon would be better, but that's purely based on the fact that the word 'Celeron' sounds a bit like 'celery', and that's bad.

I had a celeron 433mhz & it sucked

I soon upgraded to Athlon

Posted by Zayatz on Sep-12-2003 12:28:

of course athlon !

Posted by jon on Sep-12-2003 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
I had a celeron 433mhz & it sucked

Do you know how old that celeron is? the graphics card ive got in my system can overclock past 433mhz :P

Posted by sykadelik on Sep-12-2003 13:41:

Celerons and Athlons are completely different architecture. A celeron is a cut down pentium and a duron is a cut down athlon. ur better off comparing athlons and pentiums or durons and celerons

Posted by CygnusX on Sep-12-2003 14:00:

Athlon for sure

Posted by The_One on Sep-12-2003 14:26:

Athlon > Celeron

Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-12-2003 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by The_One
Athlon > Celeron

athlon > everything

Also u should be able to oc a 2200+ to around 2000mhz on stock cooling

Posted by jon on Sep-12-2003 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
athlon > everything

Also u should be able to oc a 2200+ to around 2000mhz on stock cooling

Hes after a note book, notebooks get very hot under their stock cooling at stock speeds...

Posted by whiskers on Sep-12-2003 15:28:

my computer runs just fine with a hamster in a wheel.

Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-12-2003 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by jonsimmonds
Hes after a note book, notebooks get very hot under their stock cooling at stock speeds...

Didnt notice. Still, might be possible. As long as it doesnt go over 70c too often

Posted by SgtFoo on Sep-12-2003 15:42:

DO NOT GET A CELERON!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a Celeron 1.7Ghz and it is the worst POS ever!!! it acts like a 300Mhz P2, and I have the utmost regret from buying this over the P4 or Athlon.

Posted by yujie__ on Sep-12-2003 15:43:

athlon xp, the celeron's are a joke now, they were good in the good old days of the p2/p3's now tey scusk. even the GEforce FX sucks just like the celeron

Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-12-2003 16:01:

If theres no rush and ur not skint wait a while and get an athlon 64

Posted by Excite on Sep-12-2003 18:20:

athlon is best for desktop pc's because its relatively fast and inexpensive compare to intel p4. pentium4 is best for notebooks because it cools better which is very importmant for small laptop pc.

celeron and duron lack the L2 cache..they're pretty much good for nothing. if you're goin to be gaming on that notebook don't even think about it.

Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-12-2003 18:23:

DEFINATLY Athlon XP 1700
I bought an Athlon XP 1700 for 39.99 and I overclocked it to 2.4GHZ (11x220).

Posted by jon on Sep-12-2003 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Excite
pentium4 is best for notebooks because it cools better which is very importmant for small laptop pc.

...

if you're goin to be gaming on that notebook don't even think about it.

werd

Posted by Matt on Sep-12-2003 20:13:

I'm not sure about Athlon performance in laptops, but I would definitely go with Athlon over Celeron.

Posted by Orbax on Sep-12-2003 20:16:

without reading all the BS

two architectures Pentium and Athalon

Pentium is a better number cruncher sheer computing beast. the celeron is a pentium with some of the pins disabled.

Athalon is a floating point operation (geometry) whiz. Its for games. The duron is the shitty version of the athalon.

celerons when you buy the ones from over seas, can be over clocked like a dream, no over heating, very fast with floating point. cheapo gamer chip.

Posted by Turbonium on Sep-12-2003 20:20:

Re: Celeron or athlon

quote:
Originally posted by erullafs
Hi,
I am looking to buy a notebook computer. Which is better? a Celeron 2.0Ghz or a Athlon 2200+ processor. I know the P4 may be better, but these are my choices for now.

No offense, but that is an obvious answer. The Athlon WITHOUT A DOUBT. It will outperform the Celeron so badly. How do I say it? The IPC (instructions per clock) on the Athlon is 9. On the Celeron, it's 6 at best (I think). The Athlon should have 512k L2 cache, while the Celeron has a measly 128k.

The Celeron will be MURDERED by the Athlon.

Celeron = Spitfire
Athlon 2200+ = F-22 Raptor

Posted by Turbonium on Sep-12-2003 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Excite
athlon is best for desktop pc's because its relatively fast and inexpensive compare to intel p4. pentium4 is best for notebooks because it cools better which is very importmant for small laptop pc.

You can't say the Athlon is better for desktop. It's just a matter of what you're willing to pay for performance. Intel currently owns AMD in the desktop market (but that may change very soon - Intel's upcoming Prescott vs A64).

And no, Pentium 4 is not the best for notebooks. In fact, it sucks for notebooks. You'd want to get a Pentium M CPU (1MB L2 cache) - a 1.4GHz Pentium M is faster than a 2GHz+ Pentium 4 M. (Pentium M is the CPU that comes with the Centrino wireless package).

Posted by RedLunatik on Sep-12-2003 21:37:

ATHLON!!!