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Posted by BTG on Sep-14-2003 23:01:

Motherboard problem: Asus A7v8x

my brother bought a new mb/cpu/ram daddadad..w/e

and when it boots, it says theres a problem with the ram frequency, so i had to put the cpu (AMD 2.6) to 1.5 and it works, a bit..

but when i installed xp on it, it crashed, and windows doens't boot properly (no start menu and doesn't do much but has that green valley wallpaper)

so instead of me spending hours trying to figure out why, i'm asking for anyones ideas, i just tell him to go get it fixed at a store because i'm very unmotivated to fix it for him, because my computer works fine, so i dont give a damn about his

suggestions?


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:05:

I have exact same botherboard (A7N8X Deluxe 2.0), it is a very picky motherboard (especially memory), you have to make sure you have a compatible memory or the mb wont work correctly or work at all.
But give me ALL your specs EVERYHING and I'll see if I can help ya.


Posted by Boomer187 on Sep-14-2003 23:07:

yeah find out what the ram speed is exactly. Sometimes they can only handle a certain speed. I had too quick of ram in mine and it would work fine sometimes but invariably mess up.

but if he bought it as a combo take it back and have them check it out.


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:09:

Neverthelsss, Asus A7N8X Deluxe is the best motherboard on the market right now.
I LOVE my Asus, its great, its fast, its troublefree (if you know how to work with it).


Posted by BTG on Sep-14-2003 23:11:

he has a stick of 512 DDR, er..i dont konw the exact speed because i wasn't there when he bought it, and he's stupid, and doesn't know...but

on the stick, it says

P6m6416Hcc-6A
512MB PC2700 DDR
0331 M0 2 4 3 4

i dont know what good that does, but its all i see. :x


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
he has a stick of 512 DDR, er..i dont konw the exact speed because i wasn't there when he bought it, and he's stupid, and doesn't know...but

on the stick, it says

P6m6416Hcc-6A
512MB PC2700 DDR
0331 M0 2 4 3 4

i dont know what good that does, but its all i see. :x


Which brand ? its very important, Asus only supports few (top of the line only).

Official supported memory:

Samsung PC3200 512MB M368L6423DTM-CC4
Samsung PC3200 256MB M368L3223DTM-CC4
Kingston PC3200 512MB KVR400X64C25 / 512
Micron PC3200 256MB MT16VDDT3264AG-403B2 PC3200U-30440-Z
Micron PC3200 128MB MT8VDDT1664AG-403B2 PC3200U-30440-Z
Kingmax PC3200 256MB MPXB62D-68KX3-MBA
+Corsair XMS


Posted by BTG on Sep-14-2003 23:13:

SpecTek


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
SpecTek


LOL, now I know why it isnt working .... WHAT THE FUCK IS SpecTek, I never heard of them in my life (and Ive been building computers for 4 years now).


Posted by BTG on Sep-14-2003 23:17:

yeah, me neither. oh well. stupid brother. he just bought the cheapest ram because he bought expensive mb/cpu.


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:18:

I would suggest taking that "ram" and shoving it up his ass, maybe it will work there
But seriously, go return it and get something top of the line, you get what you pay for bro


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-14-2003 23:26:

I doubt the brand makes any difference... I don't know the details of this mobo myself, but according to ThaDevil it requires PC3200 speed memory, and you've got PC2700. There's your problem.


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-14-2003 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I doubt the brand makes any difference... I don't know the details of this mobo myself, but according to ThaDevil it requires PC3200 speed memory, and you've got PC2700. There's your problem.


1st of all Where did you see me say REQUIRE ???? please show me I would like to see it (dont put words in my mouth).
2nd of all, brand name makes a HUGE diffrence (but obvisouly you dont know that)
3rd this MB takes it all from 2700 to 3500 (its all about the brand name tho)
4th I know for a fact that this MB takes; Corsair, Crucial, Samsung, Micron, Kingmax & Kingston.


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-14-2003 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
1st of all Where did you see me say REQUIRE ???? please show me I would like to see it (dont put words in my mouth).
2nd of all, brand name makes a HUGE diffrence (but obvisouly you dont know that)
3rd this MB takes it all from 2700 to 3500 (its all about the brand name tho)
4th I know for a fact that this MB takes; Corsair, Crucial, Samsung, Micron, Kingmax & Kingston.

Jesus, was this flame really necessary? I just looked at your post and saw that you'd only listed PC3200 products, so I reasonably assumed that it was a requirement. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

Anyway..... shit brands of memory are obviously not something you want to put in your computer, same as shit brands of mobos or hard drives or video cards, so even if the memory isn't the problem, it probably wouldn't hurt to get a better stick.

Try reformatting and reinstalling XP, it could have been an isolated incident... if you run into the same problem, you'll definitely need to replace some hardware.


Posted by montie on Sep-14-2003 23:57:

i think the problem is prolly with the speed of your ram and the clock speed of your CPU.

i don't know much about the athlon brand of CPU's and their clockspeed vs. multiplier settings

but all CPU's have a clock speed and a multiplyer
with say a Pentium 3 933mhz the clock speed is 133mhz the multiplier is 7. 7*133 is approx. equal to 933.

now i haven't been really keeping up on clock speeds and DDR memory and such, but what it sounds like is the clock speed of your memory is faster than what it is on the CPU.
hence thats why you had to reduce the speed of the processor for it to boot up.
but when you load windows xp on there you are going ot have a shitload of more instructions running through your mobo,memory,cpu and so if things aren't configured properly, its more than likely to crash with all that stuff going on.
i suggest you find out what your clock speed is on your CPU, then buy some good quality RAM which has the right clock speed for that CPU.

if you want some relaly good advice go to www.sharkyextreme.com
or their forums www.sharkyforums.com
or go to www.tomshardware.com


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-15-2003 00:06:

DigiNut I didnt flame you buddy, I was just making my point clear.


Posted by nrjizer on Sep-15-2003 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I doubt the brand makes any difference... I don't know the details of this mobo myself, but according to ThaDevil it requires PC3200 speed memory, and you've got PC2700. There's your problem.


Wrong. Ive got 2100 in my a7n8x deluxe and it works perfectly.


Posted by BTG on Sep-15-2003 02:09:

ok, so my dad has the same type of ram in his Asus MB, so now what? :x


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-15-2003 02:10:

I know what Im talking about, you dont want to listen to me thats your problem.

BTW this mb will work with PC2100 but PC2100 is a piece of shit.


Posted by BTG on Sep-15-2003 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
I know what Im talking about, you dont want to listen to me thats your problem.


i'm just saying that my dad has the same MB and it works with the same spectek ram, so i'm guessing that the brand name isn't the problem.


Posted by nrjizer on Sep-15-2003 02:13:

If you've ruled out the ram... try booting in safemode (press f8 as windows loads). If you can get in safe mode, disable your network card. You _might_ have some sort of irq conflict, 90% of times this is a poor network card causing the problem. Its worth a try. Besides that, start disabling various preherpals in hardware manager to see if you can isolate the problem. If none of these do it, your mobo is probably hosed.

Btw, how large is your PSU?


Posted by Boomer187 on Sep-15-2003 02:19:

^ah finally hitting on the other problem that happens most, power supply. Check that, size and want not, and also check all your fans and make sure they are running right. I am also assuming you correctly used the thermal-gizz on the cpu.

ah, and the deductive reasoning carries on.


Posted by Harri on Sep-15-2003 02:20:

A7V8X will support pc 2100 and above.

You have CP2700 Which is fine.

Spectek is a name brand of ram, not the chip itself. They are a budget ram. Spectek uses someone else's chip. much like crucial and kingston and many other companies do. The more pertinenet information is that actually located on the individual chips on the ram PCB.

As long as your new CPU isnt an Athlon XP 3200+ with 400fsb, then the pc2700 will be adequate as it will run at 333mhz and be more than willing to clock down to what you want.

I would suggest that you have a bad memory module. Download a memory tester like memtest 86 and run a memory test on your system. The errors that you have presented would indicate a bad memory module.

EDIT: it could be the actiual memory controller on the mobo, the memtest should show an error for that as well.


Posted by BTG on Sep-15-2003 02:20:

psu = 500w


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Sep-15-2003 04:24:

Hmm...I've got an ASUS mobo and I'm running 1GB of Geil 400MHz DDR memory. Haven't had any problems with it. So memory other than what is listed will work.

My mobo is the P4P800 though.


Posted by ThaDevil on Sep-15-2003 05:03:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Hmm...I've got an ASUS mobo and I'm running 1GB of Geil 400MHz DDR memory. Haven't had any problems with it. So memory other than what is listed will work.

My mobo is the P4P800 though.


Geil is known to work with Asus, Spartek or whatever it is isnt.


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