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Posted by UglyDave on Sep-15-2003 01:10:

Effects of wingers on the brain?

Folks, i've been doin pills for just over 2 years.

Just wondering if they by any chance make you more stupider?? As spelling can become a pretty tough job the days after pills..

Also, over the past few weeks, i have a memory in my head, and i sometimes cant determine whether it happened in reality or in a dream..

Goin of them for a while. possibly forever but not likely!

David


Posted by tranceDJ on Sep-15-2003 01:31:

Well they haven't determined yet exactly what the longterm effects of ecstasy (i'm assuming thats what u mean) are. You will experience trouble with memory and learning but depending on the amount you've done...whether these effects are long term or not no one really knows. Most likely you won't be as smart and have as many braincells (probably not by much) when you're older than if you had never done any pills but then again you will have experienced something most people don't.


Posted by Omegasox on Sep-15-2003 02:13:

Since they haven't been around long enough to determine true long term side effects, it has been shown (not proven) that it will literally destroy parts of your brain if done in excess. Again, if done in moderation you shouldn't see any long term effects, but if you go all out too often, as with anything else, you will definitely have some nasty side-effects.


Posted by daydreamer on Sep-15-2003 03:13:

I had trouble with some shit after a while of doing them. It is kind of like you know what you want to say sometimes but it doesn't come out that way. It is still easy to learn shit but the next day it is like how do you solve this problem again and you have to look at the fecking book. I am also rebuilding my vocabulary and i am seeing some improvement now that i have laid off that shite.
it is fun and everything but just like everything too much is not good for you.

late

dreamer


Posted by tranceDJ on Sep-15-2003 03:16:

I guess regulary excercising your mind will help keep it in check too (i.e. reading books, math problems). Might not be very appealing but might keep you from looking stupid.


Posted by LiveTheDream on Sep-15-2003 09:10:

Re: Effects of wingers on the brain?

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
Also, over the past few weeks, i have a memory in my head, and i sometimes cant determine whether it happened in reality or in a dream..


I have that problem with drinking, it does my head in, and then theres the memery loss, and am on about forgeting a whole week.


Posted by Trancention on Sep-15-2003 09:59:

quote:
Just wondering if they by any chance make you more stupider.


After this comment, I am thinking it just may..


Posted by Technaut on Sep-15-2003 13:43:

yeah they make you thick, stop takin gem before it gets too bad


Posted by ResonantDrag on Sep-15-2003 14:06:

i've heard that in moderation (whatever that is), it isn't too bad for you... it's when combined with alcohol that problems can show.
alcohol supposedly reacts to mdma causing a fizzing effect, being as the affected area is the brain... i don't think it can be too good for you
i used to partake regularly, but now that i'm a ripe old fart i just stick to a sober mind


Posted by eXo on Sep-15-2003 17:42:

Check out the 5 Hydroxy-Tryptophan supplement that helps to produce more seratonin (5-HTP) 2 hours before my friends and I do it (ecstacy) we pop 2 50mg 5HTP, and 1 1000mg vitamin C. Just make sure you keep hydrated, and drink dat OJ. Then when you crash, just before bed, take 1 50mg 5HTP, then 1 more 50mg 5HTP when you wake up. Doing this makes you feel so much better, the only reason my friends and I get sore, is because we glowstick/glowstring pretty much all night.


Posted by drgoodvibe on Sep-15-2003 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by eXo
Check out the 5 Hydroxy-Tryptophan supplement that helps to produce more seratonin (5-HTP) 2 hours before my friends and I do it (ecstacy) we pop 2 50mg 5HTP, and 1 1000mg vitamin C. Just make sure you keep hydrated, and drink dat OJ. Then when you crash, just before bed, take 1 50mg 5HTP, then 1 more 50mg 5HTP when you wake up. Doing this makes you feel so much better, the only reason my friends and I get sore, is because we glowstick/glowstring pretty much all night.



i've heard about this regiment as well, but also that it can actually be kind of toxic to certain organs in your body???


Posted by eXo on Sep-15-2003 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
i've heard about this regiment as well, but also that it can actually be kind of toxic to certain organs in your body???



As far as 5HTP having toxicity to organs, if I remember correctly, there was a bad batch of 5HTP, and it was recalled...I'll snoop around and see if I can uncover anything else about it, but as far as I know everything is fine.


Posted by eXo on Sep-15-2003 18:28:

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When taking any substance that alters the body's neurochemistry, it is always important to proceed with caution, and 5-HTP is no exception. It is almost inevitable that too high a dose will cause adverse effects, and it is possible that some of these could be serious. Having said this, we should point out that 5-HTP is an exceptionally safe nutritional supplement that has rarely, if ever, been associated with serious problems.


Too many websites give too much different information.

quote:
For most people, these tend to be mild and transient. Oral 5-HTP at doses of 100 to 300 mg/day has never been reported to cause significant changes in blood, liver, lung, metabolic, or kidney function


Ok, I like that...

I suppose as long as you stay under 300mg a day you'll be fine, but I don't take it daily, I just take it for preload for the roll, then after because you're still not producing much seratonin.

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Concern has been raised by some people that 5-HTP might increase the risk of a heart attack by enhancing the tendency of blood platelets to clot or by causing coronary arteries to go into spasm. Although it is unclear what the origin for this theoretical concern is, the facts speak for themselves. There has never been a single published report of 5-HTP causing a heart attack. The risk, if it exists at all, would seem to be extremely small and could probably be counteracted by a sensible nutritional program that includes supplements known to reduce platelet aggregation and coronary vasospasm, including vitamins C and E, calcium, magnesium, fish oil, and low-dose aspirin. Other concerns related to the concomitant use of vitamin B6 and the promotion of heart muscle and valve fibrosis by 5-HTP also seem to have no basis in fact.


Posted by eXo on Sep-15-2003 18:36:

Hope this information is helpful.



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