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FUCKING CHRIST...

http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt...u&date=20030918


This is so retarded.

LOS ANGELES, Sept 18 (Reuters) - A group of computer owners has filed a lawsuit against some of the world's biggest makers of personal computers, claiming that their advertising deceptively overstates the true capacity of their hard drives.

The lawsuit, which seeks class action status, was filed earlier this week in Los Angeles Superior Court against Apple Computer Inc. (AAPL), Dell Inc. (DELL), Gateway Inc. (GTW), Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ), IBM (IBM), Sharp Corp. (6753), Sony Corp. (6758) and Toshiba Corp. (6502)

The lawsuit brought by Los Angeles residents Lanchau Dan, Adam Selkowitz, Tim Swan and John Zahabian centers around the way that computer hard drives are described by manufacturers.

haha, they're the ones that think there are 1000 bytes in a kilobyte!


let's face it, 1 byte = 8 bits and there's nothign you can do about it.

the silly thing is, they have a very real chance of winning this

Well the hard drive manufacturers are the shady ones here. they are making hard drives that are not truly the capacity they specify.


MIZZ

This is the way society works, companies such as the RIAA sue us in BS lawsuits, and we sue random companies with BS complaints.

there is going to be a day when no one actually does anything productive for society and the world revolves around BS paperwork and nonsense. we are halfway there already.

*Upon further reflection, this post has been edited*

Okay, a few things. First, sure this is a pretty frivolous lawsuit. Secondly, the defendants might win, mostly because they are not actually wrong.

One MB is a decimal megabyte, equal to 1,000 (not 1,024) decimal kilobytes. This is not to be confused with an MiB, which is a binary megabyte. As long as they write it correctly, they should be fine. Yes, 1 byte still is 8 bits, but that has nothing to do with this notational convention.

Moreover, most people fail to realize that in certain usages (e.g., networking), decimal grouping is actually preferred to binary grouping.

For more information, check out:
http://www.romulus2.com/articles/gu...bitsbytes.shtml

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Originally posted by Flyboy217 One MB is a decimal megabyte, equal to 1,000 (not 1,024) decimal kilobytes. This is not to be confused with an Mb, which is a binary megabyte.

Ur wrong. MB = megabyte (any kind). Mb = megabit
b = bit B = byte.

why the hell are you all talking bytes and bits..

just like my computer.. the shop and all the papers say it gots a 10gb harddisk.. it only gots 9.54

and my 10gb mp3 player.. only gots 9.7X



see you in court PB & Archos

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Originally posted by robin 10gb harddisk.. it only gots 9.54 and my 10gb mp3 player.. only gots 9.7X

Thats what happens when u format it.

ffs, in short,


Q. Why is my total capacity smaller than the specified capacity?
A. Hard drive manufacturers will normally define a megabyte (MB) as 1,000,000 bytes and a gigabyte (GB) as 1,000,000,000 bytes. However, Windows and certain systems will define a megabyte as 1,048,576 and a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes for reasons beyond the scope of this discussion.



you're still getting 40 gigs worth of data, it's just that it's notation is different.

First off 1 megabyte =1024KB (we're in base2 people) in base 10 it would be 1000KB, in the computer industry everything is represented in base 2 because computers are binary....

BTW..File system overhead does require some space but not that much

Mizzuno

Did you know that unformatted 3.5" floppy can hold 2MB? =p

This was sold as 80 GB:

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Originally posted by aloep This was sold as 80 GB:

yup they sold it as 80GB=80,000MB which is in base 10, of course windows uses base two so there is your diff



Mizz

aloep, your 80GB hard drive really is an 80GB one, but the thing is that when you assign large partitions as you have done, a lot of the hard drive space is used for the registers. Try splitting the volume into several smaller logical drives, and you'll see that the total will be much closer to 80GB.

And Flyboy217 was indeed correct, although it sounds awkward. A megabyte is not 1048576 bytes, as is commonly considered, it is flat 1000000 bytes. For a while the two systems existed side by side, but in 1999 IEC introduced a new set of classifications which are still largely not used though. Anyway, the binary megabyte is not called a megabyte, but a mebibyte, and the symbol for it is MiB. Same koes for the other values which are supposed to be kibibyte (kiB), gibibyte (GiB), and so on. The difference is pretty small in the beginning, but it does grow as the larger units are introduced. A TB compared to a TiB is already about 10% off.

Anyway, the lawsuit is flawed. The companies are correctly displaying the amount of space, but the operating systems are doing it incorrectly. You see, a hard drive that is 150GB large, as it says in the lawsuit really contains only about 140GiB of space. But it's the operating systems that are displaying it wrongly and saying that the drive has 140GB. It does not have 140GB, it has 150GB, but it only has 140GiB.

Oh god! A few less gigabytes of porn...what does it matter?

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Originally posted by butterfly there is going to be a day when no one actually does anything productive for society and the world revolves around BS paperwork and nonsense. we are halfway there already.

could very well be

After the 'lets start suing McDonalds because we're fat' and 'let's start suing because I'm an alcoholic' this bullshit.

Mfg don't these people have better things to do???

Normal users dont need 150 gigs.....

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Originally posted by Nabistai Mfg don't these people have better things to do???

Not in America...

quote:

Originally posted by SebTheDJ Normal users dont need 150 gigs.....

yes, those are AOL graduates.


but a small portion of the internet community can't be considered "normal," can they???

Ha i only have a 20gig hd my music alone takes up 4gigs porn 2gigs and all these fucking programs im running low but im poor lol

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Originally posted by gwrmarines Ha i only have a 20gig hd my music alone takes up 4gigs porn 2gigs and all these fucking programs im running low but im poor lol

I only have an old slow 20gb shitty hd but in like a month im gonna make a new computer with a 250gb drive and about a 70gb scsi drive.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq I only have an old slow 20gb shitty hd but in like a month im gonna make a new computer with a 250gb drive and about a 70gb scsi drive.

Why SCSI? Go Raptor - 72GB models with some enhancements due out by Novemeber.

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