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What happened to DJ Tiesto
Can someone tell me what happened to him?? don't get me wrong, he is still one of my favorite DJs it is just that his sets have a "It's all been done before" feel to them...
I remember how Magik 5 took me on a journey.. It is probably the one thing I regret erasing from my HD. The Forbidden Paradise 9. All his sets, before Summerbreeze and Magik 6 were Amazing... And now I am faced with listening to Magik 7...
The first thing I hear is that it doesn't sit well with me.. It just sounds way to familiar...
Does anyone else share this sentiment...
cFs
i agree... tiesto's stuff has gotten kind of stale recently... maybe its too much touring?
I think the problem here is that Tiesto is not playing as much Epic Trance, and he's playing a bit more progressive...Do you reckon that's it?
Of course its familiar. When you listen to all the mp3's of the live sets he's done...you recognize the songs. The question is, is should a DJ plan his set assuming it'll be up on the net the next day. He plays a group of his favorite songs that he knows the crowd will enjoy. Should he completely change his set list when he plays on the other side of the world just to please the people who have already seen him and plan to get the mp3.
I might not completely agree with it, but he needs to be cut a little slack. Think of him as a preformer...or like a band...if you will. When a band tours they usually play a strict set list...no one ever complains about that.
To sum it up, he plays what he knows, he plays what he likes, and he plays for the people who are there listening to him...he doesnt play for live mp3's that apear on the net a day or two after he preforms.
true dat!
I guess I am expecting "new" surprises or sometimes old ones packaged differently...
If I treat a DJ as a performer and expect the same set over and oever again no matter where he goes then what does that say about him? Where's his creativity - isn't that a part of being a DJ.. being able to read a crowd and take them on a journey.. not just deliver something that - ya the crowd wants because they heard it on Magik or Summerbreeze - but instead maybe play stuff from the official releases with a little bit of "additional" stuff....
hmmm. maybe my expectations are too high....
cFs
I agree with D-Syde. Maybe you guys are just listening to him too much. If you download and listen to everyone single one of his sets, week after week, month after month, of course he'll get stale. Try taking a break from him for a while.
He's been talking with Oakenfold a little, I think... I remember seeing Oakenfold in the booth with him when I saw a set a few months ago, and he's been spinning some Perfecto tunes (Muse - New Born, Jan Johnson - Flesh (3 years old mix))... He's been around the King of Repetition.
Listen to Tiesto's sets every month last year - he consistantly was changing. Now, he's declining a little. I don't think he's lost it, but he can do so much better... it doesn't have that much to do with us...
You say Magik 5 took you on a journey....now would it still have the same effect if mp3's were as popular then as they are now. Do you think he put that set together just for Magik 5. I dont think so. I bet he played that set (or parts of that set) everywhere...but when it came out it wasnt stale. Thats because no one heard it a million times on mp3's.
I agree with a DJ having to be creative and having to read the crowd. I will admit he does need a little more creativity and variety...but the majority of the crowd listening to him live loves it. He plays what the crowd likes, and DEFFINETLY knows how to work the crowd...anyone would see this if they saw him live.
tunes, djs, clubs, the same principal applies for them all, if you experience it too much it seems to get worse when in actual fact it hasn't changed at all. its like when you go to clubs, talk to the older people there and they tell you, "its not like it used to be". i can't say ive really noticed a drop in tiesto's performance because i havn't been listening to him for a long time, so maybe you are right?! like haiku said, take a break for a while and you'll appreciate him more when you here him the next time.
RR
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| Originally posted by D-Syde You say Magik 5 took you on a journey....now would it still have the same effect if mp3's were as popular then as they are now. Do you think he put that set together just for Magik 5. I dont think so. I bet he played that set (or parts of that set) everywhere...but when it came out it wasnt stale. Thats because no one heard it a million times on mp3's. I agree with a DJ having to be creative and having to read the crowd. I will admit he does need a little more creativity and variety...but the majority of the crowd listening to him live loves it. He plays what the crowd likes, and DEFFINETLY knows how to work the crowd...anyone would see this if they saw him live. |
although i do download all the new tiesto sets... i dont really give them as much of a listen... i got too much other trance to listen to... but i downloaded magik 7, burned it, and i was sick of listening to it in my car after a day! not a whole lot of stuff gets boring so fast for me
oh well... tiesto is still great live
I think the OP was talking about the style of Tiesto changing as well. Tiesto has definately gotten more progressive and harder. I like his newer style, it's more edgier and slightly more risky than playing the same old type of sound month after month and year after year. Of course, Tiesto's playlist selection isn't as new, progressive and risky as other DJs that push the envelope (commonly cited example, Digweed).
I listen to an interview with Tiesto a few months ago when he was in LA to record Magik 7 and he said that for every set he would cater how "hard" or "soft" the records he would play was according to his feel for the crowd and their reaction. So in LA, I'm not surprised that it is harder than something he would play in Amsterdam. For the record, I like Old Tiesto and New Tiesto, they're both great.
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| Originally posted by beroshima He's been talking with Oakenfold a little, I think |
I think he's lost some steam since 1999 (his Energy 2000 set i think is the best set EVER), but still my favorite DJ. live @ club eau set is a great one, and i still can't believe he dropped sound of nature in there, what a great track.
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| Originally posted by Eugene That's the worst thing that could have happened to Tiesto. I'm sorry but these guys spin completely different kinds of music... let's not mix them together, please... I could tell you exactly what I think of Oakenfold, but this is another subject and plus I don't want to offend anyone... |
the one good point yet to be raised (again)
were all basically going on that revolution mix and magik 7, revolution mix was for europe only if im not mistaken and no wonder magik 7 shares some similarities its just with the internet were picking them, im sure this was the case with other recordings hes done too, just noone can be arsed pointing out the similarities because half the people at a venue dont know anything baout his previous acts
I think that Tiesto IS getting too progressive, even though I don't mind the progressive shit he plays, I jus wish he would continue to play uplifting tracks as well! I think things'll pick up again though! Well...I hope!
I was on the Essential Mix Mailing List and you wouldn't believe how much they were Progressive Snobs. They would totally diss Tiesto's style of trance (pre-Revolution/Magik 7) as euro-trash, and wouldn't even give PVD much respect. My two favorite DJs! I like Tiesto's new and old style... maybe Armin Van Buuren will take over as standard-bearer for pure uplifting trance from now on...
when did tiesto get progressive?
some specific examples please?
i havent heard anything like that in his recent sets.
and dont say "flight 643" because he said that was just an aberraton from the norm, as in, he just did that one style for fun.
he SAID in an interview that he's not changing his sound (i.e. uplifting)
so whats goin on?
also think muse - newborn (perfecto mix) isnt that prog, imho
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| Originally posted by Paul Griffiths 1 I think the problem here is that Tiesto is not playing as much Epic Trance, and he's playing a bit more progressive...Do you reckon that's it? |
I think it�s important, that a dj tries to change his style, or wanna see pvd playing for an angel on every set in the next 10 years ?
In my opinion the both new sets @ club eau and @ qontact are great
It�s a mixture from epic and progressiv trance and there are may records i like very much....
But i hope, that tiesto is not getting too progressiv, i think at this time it�s okay
omg is my english bad
Does anybody know why Tiesto stopped producing under the alias 'Allure'?? Cause I think it was around that time, or shortly afterwards that I noticed his style began to change a bit. anybody else agree?
Patticus I totally agree with you. Tiesto is not progressive at all and I havent heard any sets of his as of late that indicate this. Progressive is Digweeed, Lawler, Deep Dish...not Tiesto. I like Tiesto but he can get boring at times. I understand that a dj's sets that are played around the same time will be similar. Also it is not Tiesto's fault that they have been downloaded but he releases so many cd's that are so similar. (And I dont mean the ones released in Europe vs. the ones released in USA) He needs some new vinyl cause he is playing the same stuff all the time. Furthermore he is very similar to Oakey. I have been to and heard sets where he plays numerous songs from either Another World or Travelling. Here in NYC he played Lost Vagueness, Eugina, Diamondback, Flesh, and others and of course Silence (which needs to be sorely retired) all in 3 hours. He played the same songs at Innercity when I was there too. Most (and there are others) of these songs are played by Oakey on his "tour" of America.
D-Syde said it rite...when I got Magik 5 I hadnt heard any of the songs before with the exception of Airwave...the album was pure heaven and I began to worship tiesto.Not the case for Magik 7...which I didnt even bother to chek out cos I have half the songs already as singles.
Tiesto is the least progressive.And I like it when he drops some old goodies in the sets like Airwave's Alone in the dark in the Dutch Dimension set.
I am laying off tiesto sets for a while...Armin is kicking butt with some excellent fresh stuff.
right, armin's the man right now. gotta love the deeper, slightly more progressive side of trance that he's not afraid of delving into.
he's got the uplifting, but he's got more than just the light, poppy / epic uplifting sounds.
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