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Should I trade in my TTX1s for 1200s?

I've had my TTX1s for about 9 months (my first tables) and have gotten pretty good (no gigs yet except for a few parties and some bars). I really like the tables and don't really have much to compare them to (haven't really used Technics). I met a DJ last weekend who's been spinning for a while and he told me to immediately trade in my Numarks for the 1200s. His rationale was that I would want to be used to what they have in the clubs when it time to play out. I totally get his point and am thinking about the trade...what do you guys think? Are they (the feel of playing) really that different? (I don't really know too many people w/the techs to practice on them either). Is it worth me shelling out the extra $ ? Thanks...

It's up to you man. They are the industry starndard and it's hard to play on a set of decks you don't know.

So you are going to trade in your almost new TTX's which are perfectly fine turntables, and then spend more money to get a turntable that does less??? So what if they are the industry standard...
Save your money, you already own really good decks.. With the money you would spend go out and buy some more records...

But if you insist on selling your ttx's, let me know... I might take them off your hands.

ay pumavisor808 i sent you a PM yo

look man, Im not going to start this war again against the 1200's and the TTx-1's but, I own both 1200's and ttx-1s and I use my TTX-1's exclusively for a reason. They kick the 1200s ass, in almost every respect exepct for a few things, 1. they are not the "industry standard" which means sh1t to me, cuz I dont play in clubs, and even if I did, it wouldnt do much cuz the ttx-1's can do 8% pitch, and I can go back and forth between 1200's no prob ( which i do somtimes ), And I know its just not clubs, its your firends houses etc, blah blah. 2. The thing that makes me almost like the 1200's better, the analog pitch controll. Most people swear by this, and I see alot of people pitch ride and beat match within a few seconds and stuff with it, but with the ttx-1's I can do the same thing, just only within my .1 percent pitch, which in all reality is nothing, because if your mixes last longer than 3 minutes a litte push of the record wont matter if you slow too much.

All that being said, the TTX-1s kick the hell out of the 1200's even the MK-V(IMHO), you have much more pitch control, torque, key lock, interchangeable tonearms, pretty mch all of it replaceable (try replacing the tonarm on a 1200)(ttx-1's only take about 2 seconds, and you get get the option of straight and S-arm variations) it can go battle style or mixing style which kicks ass, and yes i do use that, and if you goto a 1200, its like going from a 1300cc krotch rocket, to your dads Honda 500cc wanna be Harly Davidson, they are still both motorcycles, but which one would you rather drive? Once you learn a turntable you never forget it, and learn the 1200 if you can, and once you do, you will relaize why the ttx-1 kicks the ass that it does.


You feel that? Its geting hot, I feel flames are-a-comin!!

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Re: Should I trade in my TTX1s for 1200s?

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Originally posted by KID-M I've had my TTX1s for about 9 months (my first tables) and have gotten pretty good (no gigs yet except for a few parties and some bars). I really like the tables and don't really have much to compare them to (haven't really used Technics). I met a DJ last weekend who's been spinning for a while and he told me to immediately trade in my Numarks for the 1200s. His rationale was that I would want to be used to what they have in the clubs when it time to play out. I totally get his point and am thinking about the trade...what do you guys think? Are they (the feel of playing) really that different? (I don't really know too many people w/the techs to practice on them either). Is it worth me shelling out the extra $ ? Thanks...

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TTX1's are superior TT's to the technics. theres no denying that. I love the 1200's i have a pair at home. but theres so many wonderful features on the TTx1's.
don't worry about not being able to play on technics when you get to a club. it may take a little adjusting at first but you will figure it out.
if you know how to beat match very well you can essentially spin on anything. last nite at my radio show, i mixed using one technic 1200 mk3 along with 3 shitty CD players which happen to have a pitch control on them.
you'll figure out the technics pretty quick when you get on them. and once you really start to get into playing gigs and parties and such, you'll have friends who have technics and get to play on those all the time. i actually spend more time now playing on other people's decks than my own. (one of my friends has a pair of TTx1's, such a pleasure to spin on them).

Thanks guys. I wasn't trying to start another TTX vs 1200 war (After all, I did buy the TTXs right ) - just wanted to know about my specific situation (learning on TTXs and not 1200s). This other DJ made it sound like a huge deal to switch and learn new decks and it freaked me out a bit! But, it sounds like paying out more money isn't worth it.

Argh I have no idea what to buy now! the TTX1 is so sexy, and it's cheaper... the only thing that the 1200 seems to have over the TTX1 is analog pitch control which would be ideal. so so confused...

Kid-M: I don't know why you would even begin to regret anything, you've made a great decision on the TTXs. They're premium decks with a great deal of features. It just comes down to personal preference.

I preferred the feel of the Technics even though Numark has much more to offer (and that's why I went with the 1210s ). Major things I didn't like about the Numarks were the feel of the pitch slider, it's height and the lack of the strobe dots on the platter. Even so, you won't make a mistake when it comes to making a decision between the two decks; they're both awesome.

Heh, your thinking of switching to 1200's, and the salesperson I talked to at Guitar Center the other day (Just went in to look around) was saying I should really think about the ttx-1, said he recently sold his 1200's to get the Numarks... Guess it's all just personal opinion. IMHO, Numarks just look shit compared to 1200s.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Argh I have no idea what to buy now! the TTX1 is so sexy, and it's cheaper... the only thing that the 1200 seems to have over the TTX1 is analog pitch control which would be ideal. so so confused...

i love technics, but i'd have to say go with the ttx1's
its the most logical decision. ttx1's are superior tables and they are cheaper. you can't go wrong with them.
you won't go wrong if you get the tech's either tho

I'd stick with ttx1 and buy more records or carts or something. I don't believe its true that its hard at all to switch between decks. My best friend owns 1200's, I don't, but when I go over to his house, it doesn't make a difference at all, in fact I dislike the pitch slider on 1200s because it is not as fine as the one on my vestax (ie the actual thing you move with your fingers is very large and cumbersome compared to the little bar on my vestax)

If that last bit made any sense cool, if it didn't, you'll figure it out soon.

Caleb

Thanks for the help guys...the problem may be solved now as one of my good friends just bought the 1210s...

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Originally posted by montie ttx1's are superior tables and they are cheaper. you can't go wrong with them. you won't go wrong if you get the tech's either tho

lmao, so the TTX1 is an awesome table, get it! but the 1200 is good too, so get that! no wait, the TTX1! I mean, the 1200!

/me knifes himself

I've heard on other forums about the motor overheating in the ttx when used for long periods of time & w/heavy scratching. The ttx might have more features.. but I know for a fact the build quality isn't as good as the 1200.

The first TT I bought was a TX1, and I hated it. It looks like a toy, it has tons of useless features. Who the hell wants a BPM counter on their TT? +/- 50% pitch control. Useless. Digital readouts for pitch control, all that stuff is just annoying. I played with it for two days, hated it and took it back for my first 1200, which I love.

I've got the SL 1200MK2 and last week i was in a DJ shop and tried some other tables.

You can discus the design, but that is your own opinion.

I first began to set the tonearms and the tonearm of the SL is much better. The SL arm is more stable then the TTX arm.

The torque of the TTX is higher then the torque of a SL, but the difference isn�t that big. Both tables react �nervous� when you�re touching the platter. If you slow it down from +2% and it goes back to +2% the table will go to +2,**%. The TTX is more nervous then a SL, but that�s my feeling and hard to say. You should measure it with eguipment�

The platter: The TTX platter just sucks, my fingers don�t have grip on the platter because it hasn�t got the strobes. I also like the strobes so I can see the pitch difference when I�m beat matching. But the TTX has got a digital speed indicator, so you can read the speed there (remind my remark I made earlier about this thing)


The pitch slider: I don�t like the slider of the MK2, the quartz lock sucks big time*(?), but the MK5 does not have that. TTX also has it, but it�s not as annoying as the lock of a MK2. The TTX has a digital indication of the speed, I think that that is good, but only if the deck reads the speed from the platter and not from the slider!!! (I don�t know how numark has made that)
* some times the quartz lock is annoying, but that�s only if you spin records with a big BPM difference.

The sound: The motor of a SL is the most silent there is. If you listen really well you can hear a buzz. The TTX has a harder buzz, especially when you speed it up or slow it down, but when you�re doing that with a deck then that normally is the one you�re hearing through the headphone�
The damping: I�ve heard lot complaints about the damping of the TTX. When there is a hard long bass it gives a reverb. Off course the SL also has this problem, but not as quick as the TTX.


If I had to choose between these 2 decks I would take the SL. And then I would prefer the MK5, but that is more expensive.
The most important points:
More stable arm and the motor is only a bit nervous!
Don�t forget that the SL is the standard, if you�re going to spin in a club you probably have to spin on SL�s. But the difference between the decks is small so a good DJ can spin on both decks.

My story in the post above compares the SL 12**MK* and the TTX1.

These tables are good, but there is a better deck now!!!!

This is the one:
Synq XTRM1/Omnitronic DD5250/Akiama DJ4000 Acura/AMDJ HTD4.5/Stanton STR8-150/ST150/Citronic PD45/Reloop RP6000MK5.

A lot of manufacturers make this deck, so I call it �the OEM� (Original Equipment Manifacturer).
These tables are al the same (only the Stanton has another shape and some buttons are on another place) and IMO better then the SL of TTX1.

The OEM has an incredible torque (4,5kg/cm2) and when you slow it down or speed it up it comes back to the original speed really fast and not a bit �nervous�. The slider is also very nice and the tone arm is (almost?) equal to the SL arm.
Some people say that the SL and TTX1 are direct drive, well, then you haven�t seen the OEM yet. Push the start button and it�s on speed in 0,2 sec. If there is a thin record on the deck the platter even accelerates faster then the record it self

When I was spinning on this deck it felt a lot better then a SL and TTX. The motor is superb, the arm is (IMO) as stable as the SL arm.
The only thing that is better on the SL is the buzz of the motor, though it isn�t as loud as the buzz form a TTX1.

And also very important!
The price is much better!!!!!

If there is a deck that can become the standard and kick the SL out the club it will be the OEM!

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The TTX has a digital indication of the speed, I think that that is good, but only if the deck reads the speed from the platter and not from the slider!!! (I don�t know how numark has made that)

If you lift the platter off the TTX1 and have a look inside, you can see three little transistor-like things sitting just underneath where the magnets on the platter sit. These are hall effect sensors, which detect the magnetic field created by the magnets on the platter. So these little puppies tell the TTX1 what position the platter is in. Note that this doesn't affect the readout of pitch, it only changes how fast the little dots run around the outside of the readout. It makes sense in a way, because normally you use a slipmat, and therefore knowing what speed the platter is going at isn't going to help you when the record might be going at a different speed.

Two more differences between the technics and the numark:
+ Key locking: This is a gimmick. If you lock the key and then pitch a record more than 1% you can hear a double beat. Sounds like you can't beatmatch, even with only one record playing. I used it for about 20 seconds then haven't used it since. Shame really.
+ RCA outputs: This is a BIG one! Technics don't amplify the signal from the cartridge, so you have to go all the way from the cart, through the body of the turntable, then usually down to the floor and around all those power cables before finally making it to the inside of your mixer and then getting amplified to a decent level. This means that noise has a lot more chance of getting into the system. TTX1 has RCA outputs, so the signal only goes about 20 cm before being amplified.

Anyway that's my take on things. Your mileage may vary. I love my TTX1, I've used technics and much prefer the TTX1, if only for the digital readout of speed on this one. You can easily pitch a record up or down by using the slider, then go back exactly to where you were before you moved the slider. Ahh well each to their own, I guess :-)

Holy crap guys, you've tought me sooooo much. props to you folks, I was about to buy the 1200's but ive seen the posts here i think I will get the ttx1's, since i dont have enough money for mdk5, i would rather get the ttx1's save up sell my deck and buy the mdk5 instead of getting the sl1200. anyways thats what I'm thinking after I read all these posts. thnx guys

I'm a Technics man.
If it holds pitch and works, its all good.

I have the 1200 m3ds and they dont have the pitch lock notch at all. they have a little reset button istead. anyways, i love my 1200s and dont think i will ever trade them.

I always suggest Technics to anyone considering buying turntables, but I haven't run into this question before.

I don't see much reason to buy Technics if you are running the Numark TTXs, as Numark (finally) came out with a turntable that is very competitive with the Techs. I didn't buy the Numarks at the time I made my purchase because:

a) Everyone told me to buy Techs

b) The Techs have a long, proven history of durability, reliability, etc. The Numark TTXs were new on the scene at that point (a little under a year ago), so they were a real unknown.

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