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Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Sep-25-2003 03:25:

All Age Show in San Francisco

Hi im coming down to San Francisco during Thanksgiving. unfortunately, im only 17 at this time. Are there any shows, outdoor fests, etc...?


Posted by djkeenetik on Oct-01-2003 03:14:

With you there, Im 23 and Iam looking to introduce a friend of mine who is unfortunately 19 to the world of dance parties...its ashamed the US government regulates over 21 for parties...

I dont believe any other govornment has restriction until 21...
Flame them


Posted by Echo of Silence on Oct-04-2003 01:53:

I'm 17 too. Are there ever any all age parties around here?


Posted by fuct4less on Oct-04-2003 04:56:

i doubt it, all age parties are rare here, unless you can some how get into one of those outdoor raves.


Posted by DaveT on Oct-04-2003 07:35:

Outdoor Raves happen here all the time, just have to know about them.

Look at the bayraves.com forum and you might be able to find something.

Dave


Posted by DaveSZ on Oct-07-2003 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by djkeenetik
With you there, Im 23 and Iam looking to introduce a friend of mine who is unfortunately 19 to the world of dance parties...its ashamed the US government regulates over 21 for parties...

I dont believe any other govornment has restriction until 21...
Flame them



It's discrimination based on the pretext that it saves lives of young people in drunk diving accidents. The studies used to support this assertion do not prove this to be true imo. California also has an age of sexual consent of 18 years, which is equally stupid and harsh.
When the US gov. wants something from it's young people (e.g. military service), it's all too keen to consider a person of 18 years (or even 17 years with parental permission) an adult fit to weild a rifle and kill a man. Yet it's will not willing to extend the same privaliges that come with being an adult to those same people who risk their lives for their country. I find this to be the ultimate hypocrisy, and it's no wonder American young people don't respect the drinking laws. Speaking from personal experience from when I was younger, it was way easier to obtain illegal drugs than alcohol.

As for California:

In terms of natural beauty and climate it's hard to surpass the California coast, but again that has nothing to do with the government.

dave

p.s. For more info see my thread here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=132967


Posted by Echo of Silence on Oct-07-2003 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
California also has an age of sexual consent of 18 years, which is equally stupid and harsh.
dave



I thought age of consent is 16 in California. Are you sure it's 18?


Posted by fuct4less on Oct-07-2003 23:37:

nope, its 18.


Posted by DaveSZ on Oct-11-2003 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
I thought age of consent is 16 in California. Are you sure it's 18?



Yes dear I'm sure.

Basically you and your unmaried partner have to be within 3 years of age (if under 18) or it's a crime under California law. I believe it's the harshest age of consent law of any state in the nation. I think you said you were only 17, so you are subject to this stupid law. You couldn't legally have sexual relations with a 21 y/o man.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they had a "teen curfiew" where you live, and you couldn't be out in the streets past a certain time of night...fill me in.

See here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=128618

Here it is:


quote:

PENAL CODE
SECTION 261-269


261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual
intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the
perpetrator, if the person is a minor.

For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person
under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person
who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years
older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is
guilty of a misdemeanor.

(c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than
the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and
shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
(d) Any person over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age
is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished
by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.
(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an
adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in
violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the
following amounts:
(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).
(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).
(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable
for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is
liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars
($25,000).
(2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil
penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected
for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action
shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the
judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the
Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the
State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy
Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing
underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature.



Of course I support age of consent laws, but a lower age limit. I have a friend who has a gf, and their relationship would be illegal under this law (if he lived in California).


Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Oct-20-2003 03:27:

so does anyone know of any outdoor or indoor fests or parties with electronic music for a 17 year old?!



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