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Hate!
Breeding hate!
Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? US?
We have nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such. Heavens to Mergatroyd. Marx Forbid. We are humanists. Progressives. Peace lovers.
Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition
to Zionism and Israeli policies. The two have nothing to do with one another. Venus and Mars. Night and Day. Trust us.
Sure, we think the only country on the earth that must be
annihilated is Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
Sure, we think that the only children on earth whose being blown up
is ok if it serves a good cause are Jewish children. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
Sure we think that if Palestinians have legitimate grievances this
entitles them to mass murder Jews. But that does not mean we have
anything against Jews as such.
Naturally, we think that the only people on earth who should never
be allowed to exercise the right of self-defense are the Jews. Jews
should only resolve the aggression against them through capitulation, never through self-defense. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We only denounce racist apartheid in the one country in the Middle
East that is NOT a racist apartheid country. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We refuse to acknowledge the Jews as a people, and think they are
only a religion. We do not have an answer to how people who do NOT
practice the Jewish religion can still be regarded as Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We think that all peoples have the right to self-determination,
except Jews, and including even the make-pretend Palestinian "people". But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We hate it when people blame the victims, except of course when
people blame the Jews for the jihads and terrorist campaigns against
them. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We think the only country in the Middle East that is a fascist
anti-democratic one is the one that has free elections. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We demand that the only country in the Middle East with free speech,
free press, or free courts be destroyed. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We oppose military aggression, except when it is directed at
Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We really understand suicide bombers who murder bus loads of Jewish
children and we insist that their demands be met in full. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We think the only conflict on earth that must be solved through
dismembering one of the parties to that conflict is the one involving
Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We do not think that Jews have any human rights that need to be
respected and especially not the right to ride a bus without being
murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
There are Jewish leftist anti-Zionists and we consider this proof
that anti-Zionists could not possibly be anti-Semitic. Not even the ones who cheer when Jews are mass murdered. These are the only Jews we think need be acknowledged or respected. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We do not think murder proves how righteous and just the cause of
the murderer is, except when it comes to murderers of Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We do not think the Jews are entitled to their own state and must
submit to being a minority in a Rwanda-style "bi-national state", although no other state on earth, including the 22 Arab countries, should be similarly expected to be deprived of its sovereignty. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We think that Israel's having a Jewish majority and a star on its
flag makes it a racist apartheid state. We do not think any other
country having an ethnic-religious majority or having crosses or crescents or "Allah Akbar" on its flag is racist or needs dismemberment. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We condemn the "mistreatment" of women in the only country of the
Middle East in which they are not mistreated. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We condemn the "mistreatment" of minorities in the only country in
the Middle East in which minorities are NOT brutally suppressed and mass murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We demand equal citizen rights, which is why the only country in the
Middle East in need of extermination is the only one in which they
exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
We have no trouble with the fact that there is no freedom of
religion in any Arab countries. But we are mad at hell at Israel for violating religious freedom, and never mind that we are never quite sure where or when it does so. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
So how can you possibly say we are anti-Semites? We are simply
anti-Zionists. We seek peace and justice, that's all. And surely that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.
"We love Jew's!"
Israeli police and ZAKA Rescue and Recovery workers medical volunteers work at the scene of a bus bombing in the city of Haifa. A suicide bomber blew up aboard a crowded bus on Wednesday, March 5th killing at least 15, wounding many bystanders (AP)
weeeee can we get this guy banned please?
this idiot looks like melech_mike v2.0
Re: Hate!
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| Originally posted by Arafuct Breeding hate! Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? US? We have nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such. We think that all peoples have the right to self-determination, except Jews... |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek weeeee can we get this guy banned please? this idiot looks like melech_mike v2.0 |
so you read the rules and know what is allowed and not... good for you smart ass!
gee you see, stirring up shit isn't written anywhere and will get you banned!
btw, get a life.
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| Originally posted by Galapidate You claim you have nothing against the Jews but you don't think the Jews have ae right to self-determination? You're fucked up Someone ban this guy |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek weeeee can we get this guy banned please? this idiot looks like melech_mike v2.0 |
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| Originally posted by Arafuct I carefully read the rules pertaining to posting in these forums... there is not grouds for a ban nor a warning in my post above. Bark up another tree you Cyrus_Queen prototype |
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| Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. |
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| MrS I would be willing to wager it is melech_mike.... |
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| Originally posted by MrSquirrel I would be willing to wager it is melech_mike....esp since there have been no hits on my website (where my sig is hosted) from "cambodia". MrS |
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| Originally posted by tathi anti-semitic is also the hatred of Arabs, denying this would be anti-semantic :P |
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant yet another "urban legend". We all know who created the term "antisemitism", when, and for what reason. So stop with the "arabs are also semites" bullshitting for once. thanks. |
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| Originally posted by Galapidate You claim you have nothing against the Jews but you don't think the Jews have ae right to self-determination? You're fucked up Someone ban this guy |
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| Originally posted by Galapidate |
interesting post...
kinda getting wacky here though
i think some bans are necessary for palestinian dude
sprouting some mean stuff
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant yet another "urban legend". We all know who created the term "antisemitism", when, and for what reason. So stop with the "arabs are also semites" bullshitting for once. thanks. |
speaking of hate...
lets look at the dicitionary however, as we are uneducated fools:
OED v2.0
anit-semitism: Theory, action, or practice directed against the Jews. Hence anti-Semite, one who is hostile or opposed to the Jews; anti-Semitic a.
dictionary.com:
an�ti-Sem�i�tism (nt-sm-tzm, nt-)
n.
1.Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2.Discrimination against Jews
so is it true, does the truth hurt sometimes?
A lesson in linguistics
Good work, you successfully discriminated between the denotation you find advantageous and that which accompany it.
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| Dictionary.com anti-semitic: adj 1: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion Anti-Semitism \An`ti-Sem"i*tism\, n. Opposition to, or hatred of, Semites, esp. Jews. -- Semites: A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians. |
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| so is it true, does the truth hurt sometimes? |
Re: A lesson in linguistics
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| Originally posted by tathi Disinformation isn't a contemporary concept, subliminal messages, no matter how subtle hold great influence over you frail nationalists. An example of an elusive transposition includes Jihad; a word completely misconstrued to serve insidious means I believe intelligence and skepticism of consensus is an immunity. I am not fearful of truth, I am a great advocate of the truth no matter how challenging it may be to my ideals, and I have never been hurt by it. I only wish i could be there when your own irrefutable epiphany marks the greatest epoch of your life in which you realise your own spurious ideals are nothing more than subtle prevarications I strongly suggest you get a hold of the following book yoepus: Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli |
@ "uneducated fool"
Just as I suspected, you're getting pathetic.
For the heck ot it I looked for "antisemitsm" in google resulting in links which dealt with the hatred towards Jews exclusively. As hard as I tried, I just didn't find one indication for this word to refer to Arabic people as well.
The term "antisemitism" exists for no longer than 200 years. It was created at some point in the later 19th century in Europe. How many of the " Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians" lived back then? I'm sure it described the anti-Babylonian sentiments at the height of Eruopean nationalism
Creating the term "Antisemitsm" by those who "practiced" it, documents the new approach Jew-haters were taking. While for thousand years Jews were discriminated against for religious reasons (hence "Antijudaism" ) the hatred was now justified by racist motives. This new approach was pseudo-scientifical coinciding with the general racist spirit of nationalist and colonialist Europe and the emancipation of the Jews at this time. Later it was adopted by the Nazi regime which kept devolping these racist theories.
It's more than clear that neither in the past, nor today Antisemitism applies to Arabs or any other "semitic" people. The word itself is deceptive and hypocritical, merely an attempt to make hatred against Jews political correct in the 19th century.
Of course, tathi, you can come and dissect the word in order to "logically" prove otherwise. If this gives you any satisfaction, so be it. You can also say that Banana really means Apple. Just keep in mind that language is not mathematics. If it is a general consensus to use this word this way (Oxford dictionary definition f.e.), and if researching and investigating its roots leads to the same conclusion, then I might have been right after all.
refute! refute! dictionary.com is anti-semitic! everybody is anti-semitic! this idiot goyim is anti-semitic! refute!
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- Arthur Schopenhauer
refute!
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| Originally posted by tathi refute! refute! dictionary.com is anti-semitic! everybody is anti-semitic! this idiot goyim is anti-semitic! refute! "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer refute! |
hehe defeat?
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| Of course, tathi, you can come and dissect the word in order to "logically" prove otherwise. If this gives you any satisfaction, so be it. |
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| You can also say that Banana really means Apple. |
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| Just keep in mind that language is not mathematics. If it is a general consensus to use this word this way |
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| and if researching and investigating its roots leads to the same conclusion, then I might have been right after all. |
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| So how's the weather in Sidney today? |
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| Gilbert Keith Chesterton You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it. |
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| Originally posted by tathi if refuting logic gives you satisfaction, so be it that really is a great analogy, it completely delineates your concept of "logic" The general consensus? Ahhh the masses, completely omniscient and au courant, never doubt the masses maxims, they are absolute truths. I suggest you also read Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli. hehe gw, i can also cut and paste off sites like honestreporting, if anything contradicts my ideals, its racist, anti-semitic, lies! all lies! shithouse today ;/ |
) but in language you'll have to accept the genral consensus unless you wanna speak languages of your own, talking to yourself! Also, it's not merely "general consensus" but a clear definition. Re: A lesson in linguistics
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| Originally posted by tathi Disinformation isn't a contemporary concept, subliminal messages, no matter how subtle hold great influence over you frail nationalists. An example of an elusive transposition includes Jihad; a word completely misconstrued to serve insidious means |
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