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Posted by FeRRy on Jul-05-2001 21:11:

Idea TRANCE vs HOUSE, the final discussion

I like trance... and you?


Posted by rawkus rowan on Jul-05-2001 21:17:

i like trance 99% of the time. correction: i love trance 99% of the time. but on a hot summer day sittin outside i like a bit of house, its cool. something like roger sanchez - another chance, theres a good track (yet another one thats overplayed though!)


RR


Posted by jon jon on Jul-05-2001 21:20:

Last time I checked it was www.tranceaddict.com. I love my trance man, layered, heavy, melodic, vocal and a feeling of taking a journey. House just doesn't cut if for me. However I also think that they are two completely diff styles of music and art should not really be compared to another anyways, right? =)) (always stirring shit*)

Jonathan
X T O L L O


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jul-05-2001 22:22:

hate house with a passion. especially hard house. blah. rather listen to.....pop!!! i don't know what it is but it makes me cringe. very different than trance.


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jul-05-2001 22:23:

trance...I find it funny how u come onto a trance forum and ask this question LoL.


Posted by tranceDJ on Jul-05-2001 22:36:

I would say I like trance much more than house but I still like house (NOT hard house though). I think house is better 'party music' than trance...just music you can dance to. Trance has a lot more substance than house and therefore its better to just listen to. Trance is cool to dance to also. I love trance but I will always listen to house as well.


Posted by TranceNerd on Jul-05-2001 23:06:

HOUSE SUCKS!

I personally hate house... Some of the progressive house, like sandstorm is `acceptable once in a while', but shit nonetheless.

I also hate when people group house/trance together... As in `I can't tell the difference, they both have the same beat...' This is true, but trance has a lot more than just a beat, and the beat isn't the main focus....

The thing that really bugs me about house though, is that a lot of it sounds like it's about to be trance... But then isn't... (As a lot of trance has some housey-parts, without music, just beat....)

Anyway, that's my thoughts.


Posted by cryptic_reign on Jul-05-2001 23:54:

Trance and House are totally different

House is more bass-line and beat

Trance is more synths, ambience

I love both, but I like Trance better.


Posted by YuVaL on Jul-06-2001 01:03:

i would have to say trance... hard, melodic.. some nice female vocals.... THATS WHAT I LOVE

=)


Posted by Eugene on Jul-06-2001 01:39:

I love EPIC TRANCE.
I frequently, though not always, enjoy UPLIFTING TRANCE.
On occasion I dig HARD HOUSE / NRG.
But I doubt I'll ever dig PROGRESSIVE HOUSE... I'm sorry...


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jul-06-2001 02:30:

Satan (eek!)

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
hate house with a passion. especially hard house. blah. rather listen to.....pop!!! i don't know what it is but it makes me cringe. very different than trance.


Britney Spears or Lisa Lashes? HMmm Hmmm..

I give:

Britney nekkid and spinning supa dupa hard house!

Perfect! ;o)


Posted by Positiva on Jul-06-2001 04:40:

I'm REALLY getting into UK Hard House nu/hi-nrg trax. Stuff from Tidy Trax, Nukleuz, Lobster Licks exc are all good! You guys need to be less close minded with what you listen to. There's always new stuff to listen to. Honestly I used to be a full throttle trancEaddict, but now since i've started listening to Mauro Picotto's hard house stuff, i've started listeining to Tony De Vit, BK, Andy Farley, Lisa Pin-up and Lisa Lashes. Its all good stuff! I am still a trance addict, but i'm also very into hard house. Heres a good new track: E-Trax - Lets Rock (BK's Nukleuz Remix)its off of tidy trax (www.tidytrax.co.uk). That track is for anyone whose open minded enough to listen to something new. Dont go off ranting about how out of whack I am for listening to hardhouse more than trance
Pozz


Posted by LiquidX on Jul-06-2001 04:52:

wait... I think,I mean I think I like this music called TRANCE .


Posted by Renegade on Jul-06-2001 05:28:

Love house, particularly the progressive side of it and the more slamming filtered house (Olav Basoski et al).

Don't actually like trance that much any more. Why am I here then? The free food mainly.

God I'm hung over.....


Posted by Kurve on Jul-06-2001 10:06:

Trance i love ...but really loving the Tech-House which is more Techno then House...but thats my favorite style of House .
quote:
Originally posted by cryptic_reign
Trance and House are totally different

House is more bass-line and beat

Trance is more synths, ambience

I love both, but I like Trance better.

i think its the opposite really..Trance with out its Basslines the melodies would be Flatt..... House (not including Hardhouse)... is more beat originated more complex beats it has basslines too but doesnt have a big effect on the whole song like it does for trance......Trance is synths u were right but Basslines are what makes TRANCE = TRANCE.....imagine listening System F songs or Gouryella songs with out the bassline ....its would suck so bad!!!!.


Posted by fastmp3 on Jul-06-2001 10:55:

I prefer Trance because it makes you wanna dance more . I like house too but it gets cheesy at the end


Posted by patticus on Jul-06-2001 11:19:

HARD HOUSE IS NOT HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry to be a dick but this really pisses me off.

its actually a lot more closely related to euro-trance.

anyways i like trance and house, but i cant be bothered w/ some house.
that disco-y funky house is cool to chill sometimes, as is deep tribal house, and i consider prog house just the same as prog trance a lot of the time...

anyways i spend most of my time listening to trance.

doesnt it piss you djs off when they list certain tracks under house? like safri duo - played alive under Trance
and THEN safri duo - samb-adagio under House!

damn i miss so many tracks like that.. its annoying... another one is utah saints - lost vagueness, a lot of times listed as house...


Posted by dj alonzo on Jul-06-2001 12:11:

I LOVE Trance.. It's the best music!!!
But i also like some Tech-House and House Acid...


Posted by krusader on Jul-06-2001 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Positiva
I'm REALLY getting into UK Hard House nu/hi-nrg trax. Stuff from Tidy Trax, Nukleuz, Lobster Licks exc are all good! You guys need to be less close minded with what you listen to. There's always new stuff to listen to. Honestly I used to be a full throttle trancEaddict, but now since i've started listening to Mauro Picotto's hard house stuff, i've started listeining to Tony De Vit, BK, Andy Farley, Lisa Pin-up and Lisa Lashes. Its all good stuff! I am still a trance addict, but i'm also very into hard house. Heres a good new track: E-Trax - Lets Rock (BK's Nukleuz Remix)its off of tidy trax (www.tidytrax.co.uk). That track is for anyone whose open minded enough to listen to something new. Dont go off ranting about how out of whack I am for listening to hardhouse more than trance
Pozz


i really dont think picotto classifies as hard house? tech-trance i thought... anyways... i really cant stand to listen to regular house for more than a few minutes... i gets so fucking boring! but im starting to dig prog more and more... stuff like digweed and sasha spin... if thats considering prog house at all

either way... trance will always be #1 to me!


Posted by Paul Griffiths 1 on Jul-06-2001 12:55:

quote:
Originally posted by krusader

stuff like digweed and sasha spin... if thats considering prog house at all


Hmmm...Defiantely not Progressive House Sasha & Diggaz...Progressive, Tech Trance maybe though...

But anyways I like some deep house...Nice & soulful, and nice for a change.


Posted by k-cee on Jul-06-2001 14:26:

Trance, Hardhouse, progressive, techno.. etc, they are all offsprings of house music.. It all started as house music back in the early eighties where the house tunes had a 4/4 beat..


Posted by Positiva on Jul-06-2001 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by krusader


i really dont think picotto classifies as hard house? tech-trance
You're kidding Right? Mauro Picotto is definetly a hard house DJ and he definetly produces Hard House. As i said, mauro makes some trancy tracks and he does Hard house...Trancy being Komodo, Proximus, Lounge. Tech Trance=Pulsar, Like This Like That, Underground. Hard House=Bug, Pegasus, Baguette, Iguana, Electric. All of the tracks under hard house that i listed have been made for Mauro's Green Nukleuz Relases (www.Nukleuz.co.uk), The rest have been bought off by Uneversal Records and Media Records (www.mediarec.de). BxR is Mauro's label so it will all be @ www.bxr.it if you want to see the back releases catalog...speaking of bxr, its mainly a Hard House Label with exceptions of Mario Piu's "The Vision" and "Communication" and Darren Flynn's "Spirit of Sp@ce" which was Co-produced by Mauro Picotto.


Posted by Kurve on Jul-06-2001 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Positiva
You're kidding Right? Mauro Picotto is definetly a hard house DJ and he definetly produces Hard House. As i said, mauro makes some trancy tracks and he does Hard house...Trancy being Komodo, Proximus, Lounge. Tech Trance=Pulsar, Like This Like That, Underground. Hard House=Bug, Pegasus, Baguette, Iguana, Electric. All of the tracks under hard house that i listed have been made for Mauro's Green Nukleuz Relases (www.Nukleuz.co.uk), The rest have been bought off by Uneversal Records and Media Records (www.mediarec.de). BxR is Mauro's label so it will all be @ www.bxr.it if you want to see the back releases catalog...speaking of bxr, its mainly a Hard House Label with exceptions of Mario Piu's "The Vision" and "Communication" and Darren Flynn's "Spirit of Sp@ce" which was Co-produced by Mauro Picotto.


Bug,Baguette = hard house WOW!!!!! never heard it labrel that before............ picotto is far from hard House....... hes is a Straight Techno/Tech-trance dj .......his sets are straight techno almost alot of bumps and more complex beats then hard house is..... Hard House is the last genre i would put him in...hes totally Techno

21:05 Agrimonyzer - Joy Kitikonti (Temprogressive - TP 9052 MX)
21:07 Verdi - Mauro Picotto (Sacrifice - Promo)
21:13 Cosmic Dancer - Savas Pascalidis (Kurbel - 18)
21:17 Prendi & Scappa - Mauro Picotto (BXR - Promo)
21:20 Promo - Promo (Ante Zenit - 7)
21:23 U Tok Error - Jabba 44 (Overdose - OVER 129)
21:25 Loophole - Promo (SOK - 22)
21:29 Promo - Thomas Schumacher (Spiel-Zeug - 12 SPIEL 13.5)
21:32 So Hudge - LabInsect (Kurbel - 19)
21:36 Terror Drum - Mario Piu (BXR - Promo)
21:41 Sustained Buxom Mad Chips - Justin Berkovi (Harthouse - HH 06-6)
21:44 Muhalbia I - Marco Zaffarano & J?rg Henze (E.M.F. - Promo)
21:51 Monolog - Mono Meltdown (Superstition - 62124-6)
21:56 Continue - Alex K. Katz (Construct Rhythm - CR 12023)
21:58 Like This Like That - Mauro Picotto (Sacrifice - S 666)
22:06 The Rascal - Chris McCormack (Geuschky - GYD 6)
22:11 Logarithm - Mauro Picotto (Sacrifice - S 667)
22:16 Undisputed Life (Rmx) - John Thomas (Sino - 2)
22:21 Promo - Steve Rachmad (Scorp - 4)
22:24 Promo - Chris Liebing (CLR - 7)
22:30 The Dance Of The Crazy Pill - L-X-Carbo (E.M.F. - 017-12)
22:35 Kebab - Mauro Picotto (BXR - Promo)
22:41 Baguette - Mauro Picotto (BXR UK - BXR P 0296)
22:46 Like This Like That - Mauro Picotto (BXR - Promo)
22:53 One Night In NYC (Rmx) - The Horrorist (CLR NYC - 1)
22:57 Remainings III (Rmx) - Promo (Drumcode - DC 20.5)
23:02 Circuit - Headroom (Compound - COMP 12)
23:04 Genetica - Duo Blank (Invasion - INV 007 016)
23:08 Shockabuku - Thomas Krome (Corb - 1209)
23:11 Temper - Sean Colt (Bush - 1086)
23:14 Man Alive - Devilfish (Bush - 1089)
23:17 Drops Of Light - L-X-Carbo (E.M.F. - Promo)
23:24 The Chains Of Babylon - Johannes Heil (Kanzleramt - KA 49)
23:29 Kraftfeld (Rmx) - Clemens Neufeld (Fon - 13)
23:32 Powerbeat - Razorblade (Raveman - RAVE 001)
23:37 Luna - Mauro Picotto (BXR - Promo)
23:38 Welcome - Si Begg (Mosquito - MSQ 016)
23:44 The Man With The Red Face (Rmx) - Laurent Garnier (F Communications - F 127 UK)
23:48 Evergreen III - Technasia (Technasia - TA 06)
23:53 Univers - Antoine Clamaran (Royal Flush - RF 011)
23:58 Promo - Curve Pusher (Pounding Grooves - PGV 16)

here is one of his sets from this year......pretty much every song is TECHNO!!! other then Like this and THat mayb


Posted by patticus on Jul-06-2001 21:46:

yeah i think baguette is techno

the rest of his stuff id call hard, banging trance... i know its not really a subgenre

but its not hard house (maybe to uk ppl it is)

maybe hard hous-ish trance? haha
not tech-trance i think either


Posted by havok118 on Jul-07-2001 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
HARD HOUSE IS NOT HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry to be a dick but this really pisses me off.

its actually a lot more closely related to euro-trance.




AAAMEN.

Hard house is definitely not deservant of the title house. I don't even consider it deservant of the title, MUSIC.

uk hard house that is


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