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Posted by occrider on Oct-02-2003 16:04:

Money Does Not Buy Happiness

Nigeria tops happiness survey


The survey confirms money does not buy happiness
A new study of more than 65 countries published in the UK's New Scientist magazine suggests that the happiest people in the world live in Nigeria - and the least happy, in Romania.

People in Latin America, Western Europe and North America are happier than their counterparts in Eastern Europe and Russia.

HAPPINESS AROUND THE WORLD
The happiest
Nigeria
Mexico
Venezuela
El Salvador
Puerto Rico

The least happy
Russia
Armenia
Romania
Source: New Scientist

Nigeria has the highest percentage of happy people followed by Mexico, Venezuela, El Salvador and Puerto Rico, while Russia, Armenia and Romania have the fewest.

But factors that make people happy may vary from one country to the next with personal success and self-expression being seen as the most important in the US, while in Japan, fulfilling the expectations of family and society is valued more highly.

The survey appears to confirm the old adage that money cannot buy happiness.

PATH TO HAPPINESS
Genetic propensity to happiness
Marriage
Make friends and value them
Desire less
Do someone a good turn
Have faith (religious or not)
Stop comparing your looks with others
Earn more money
Grow old gracefully
Don't worry if you're not a genius

The researchers for World Values Survey described the desire for material goods as "a happiness suppressant".

They say happiness levels have remained virtually the same in industrialised countries since World War II, although incomes have risen considerably.

The exception is Denmark, where people have become more satisfied with life over the last three decades.

The study was carried out in 1999-2001 and published for the first time by New Scientist this week.

Consumerism

Researchers believe the unchanging trend is linked to consumerism.

"New Zealand ranked 15 for overall satisfaction, the US 16th, Australia 20th and Britain 24th - although Australia beats the other three for day-to-day happiness," New Scientist says.

The survey is a worldwide investigation of socio-cultural and political change conducted about every four years by an international network of social scientists.

It includes questions about how happy people are and how satisfied they are with their lives.

Although such surveys are not new, they are being increasingly taken into account by policy makers, the magazine says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3157570.stm


Posted by BTG on Oct-02-2003 16:07:

I myself am a very happy person.

regardless of my negative income.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-02-2003 16:08:

Money doesn't buy happiness but I'd rather cry in a Porsche than in a bus.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-02-2003 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Money doesn't buy happiness but I'd rather cry in a Porsche than in a bus.

Amen.


Posted by Misty Kitty on Oct-02-2003 16:10:

money may not buy happiness but i certainly buy alot of other stuff.

I get by and i have a laugh doing it, but i would be able to do so much more with my time if money wasn't a factor in activities


Posted by occrider on Oct-02-2003 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Money doesn't buy happiness but I'd rather cry in a Porsche than in a bus.


No because then you would be even MORE unhappy because you don't have a nice house to go with your porsche


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-02-2003 16:16:

I think you have to take these "studies" with a grain of salt, because you're not just comparing individual citizens, you're comparing entire societies.

Money may not be very important in a place like Nigeria, where the society isn't very money-driven. But countries like Canada and the USA are very materialistic, and it's just impossible to have much fun when you can't afford the things you want. Money may not buy happiness here, but I think it definitely is at least one requirement for it.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Oct-02-2003 16:17:

Money can buy happiness imo. If ur not in debt u have less stress in life for example. And money can buy lots of things that will make u happy, at least in the short term.


Posted by Omegasox on Oct-02-2003 17:23:

No matter how much money you have you'll always want more. This breeds desire which is the first stepping stone for disappointment.

And sure "fun" stuff usually requires money, but true happiness is within, not drawn from fun activities.


Posted by whiskers on Oct-02-2003 17:27:

money does or doesn't buy happiness, depending on the type of person you are.


this survey is shit. i wouldn't trust it at all. i've seen too many russian immigrants who say that even they make a good amount of money here in the US, they'd be happier back home. a shit pileup, but your OWN, home, pileup. although word comes to action, what would they really choose, no one knows.


Posted by Cuervo79 on Oct-02-2003 18:10:

Well no money probs would certainly make me happier


Posted by Mike_B on Oct-02-2003 18:16:

interesting, but i must admit that being born in a uppermiddle class familly, i can do no less but end up being an upper middle class citizen. which is why i have so much schooling left. But im still happy. Great girlfriend, and awsome friends help with that. I think the environment in which your raized has alot to do with it. i don't mean money wise. But being born in a happy familly environment vs. a angry, stressed, problem familly will greatly influence a childs perseption of the world.


Posted by PhloTron on Oct-02-2003 18:16:

it's funny to see mexico #2...maybe because they are so happy its so easy to jump the border into the U.S. and take our jobs and tax dollars to live on welfare and other gov't programs, then send some of their abundance back to the family in mexico. Free money = happy people.

Dunno...I'd just think if they were all so "happy" they wouldn't try and "escape" the country.


Posted by Mike_B on Oct-02-2003 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by PhloTron
Dunno...I'd just think if they were all so "happy" they wouldn't try and "escape" the country.


good point


Posted by biznology on Oct-02-2003 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by PhloTron
it's funny to see mexico #2...maybe because they are so happy its so easy to jump the border into the U.S. and take our jobs and tax dollars to live on welfare and other gov't programs, then send some of their abundance back to the family in mexico. Free money = happy people.

Dunno...I'd just think if they were all so "happy" they wouldn't try and "escape" the country.


huh...what do you have against Mexicans? if they all want to come and take our jobs why are there so many damn Mexicans in Mexico still? what are they all waiting for?

oh yah, its that most Mexicans wont risk getting caught jumping the border, so they are treated like slaves in US production plants within the borders of MX...ok so maybe all Mexicans arent so lucky

it seems that most of the happy countries are near the equator...strange huh? notwithstanding the rich countries that fall near the top (US, Austr, etc)


Posted by Vivid Boy on Oct-02-2003 20:10:

i dunno about u guys but when i go out and buy something new im a king for a few days im happy as ever....u should have seen me when i bought my car...happiest ive ever been...then i got a few scratches and a few dents and now i wanna sell the fuckin thing but still i was hapopy!


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Oct-02-2003 20:36:

Like hell it doesnt!!! ill judge that myself thank you :P


Posted by djeternal on Oct-02-2003 20:43:

money doesnt buy happiness? Money takes care or ur material worries doesnt it? Takes care of ur material "wants" right? if it doesnt make u happy then give me everything u got and everything ur gonna earn for the rest of ur life...u dont need it right?

"People who say money is the root of all evil, dont have it. They say money cant buy happiness, look at the fuken smile on my face. Ear to ear baby!" - Boiler Room


Posted by djSlain on Oct-02-2003 20:49:

I've been into mexico various times and i can definently confirm that it is a very joyous place. however, i would use the term "satisfied" over happy. People all over still get drunk and pick fights with one another and stuff, but it's very much like the lives of those in "little house on the prairie" days. All the families live in the same cities, and i think that is one factor. The pay isn't much compared to america, but it is just enough to get by, and still celebrate all the holidays and special occasions. And let me tell u, america has those parties where everyone comes in and cake and presents and all that stuff. In mexico, it is considered joyous to the person being celebrated, just to have their family around to hug and give best wishes.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-02-2003 20:52:

Honestly, it's not even worth thinking about... and in retrospect, I'm surprised I even took the time to post earlier.

"Money doesn't buy happiness" is just one of those clich�s that poor or middle-class types love to spit out when they feel financially insecure.

It's like telling people to "be yourself" in relationships. Or to "stay in school" to make money in the future. Dumb sound bites that people use when they can't think of any better, REAL advice.

Alright, so I'll give you that being a desperately lonely single millionaire might not be as happy as a middle-classer who's married to a beautiful and caring woman... but if we equate all other things, I'm pretty sure that the richer dude[tte] will be a lot happier than the poor one.


Posted by djSlain on Oct-02-2003 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Honestly, it's not even worth thinking about... and in retrospect, I'm surprised I even took the time to post earlier.

"Money doesn't buy happiness" is just one of those clich�s that poor or middle-class types love to spit out when they feel financially insecure.

It's like telling people to "be yourself" in relationships. Or to "stay in school" to make money in the future. Dumb sound bites that people use when they can't think of any better, REAL advice.

Alright, so I'll give you that being a desperately lonely single millionaire might not be as happy as a middle-classer who's married to a beautiful and caring woman... but if we equate all other things, I'm pretty sure that the richer dude[tte] will be a lot happier than the poor one.


very true. i think it's all about how we process the information and events we go through. I used to be depressed. now i'm not. Nothing has actually changed in my life. the only thing new is higher grades in school and a higher self confidence. i just had to read some books that analyze the thought process and how we react to them.


Posted by occrider on Oct-02-2003 21:14:

Wow, I'm surprised people are being so vehement over the study. Anyway, happiness is a relative measure, of course we can all say that we would be happier with the things that we don't have, and of course we would be unhappier if we didn't have enough money to feed ourselves. A person in Nigeria would probably be happier with a western salary. A westerner would be unhappier with a Nigerian salary. However, what the study indicates is that despite our overwhelming accumulated materials and wealth, we evaluate our own happiness and satisfaction as being worse off than a Nigerian evaluates his happiness and satisfaction. What can be concluded? We can have more money and more material possessions than a Nigerian yet still be unhappier than the Nigerian.


Posted by whiskers on Oct-03-2003 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
i dunno about u guys but when i go out and buy something new im a king for a few days im happy as ever....u should have seen me when i bought my car...happiest ive ever been...then i got a few scratches and a few dents and now i wanna sell the fuckin thing but still i was hapopy!



that's true, i bought the tiesto dvd, gatecrasher resident transmissions cd, matrix reloaded poster and fight club poster and i was so fucking happy!

but we're talking about different type of buying. "money buying happiness" is actually metaphorical buying - they mean that if you have lots of money, you can be happy. but i'm sure that was obvious.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Oct-03-2003 02:39:

�Money can�t buy you happiness� is just something that that the bourgeois tell all us proles, peons and surfs so we don�t feel bad we�ve got none of it.


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-03-2003 02:48:

Happiness can't buy money.


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