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new pack but is it good?

hi there! i'm about to buy my first direct drive turntable pack! but i dont know if it is a good choise! I want to spend 700 to 800 euro's for it so here's what ive found:

turntable:
Reloop RP-4000 MKIII Chrome LTD (259 euro) or the
JB-Systems Q-30 (249 eur) i go for the jb cause both (reloop and jb) have the same turntable (same factory just their names on the pack)

mixer:

Behringer VMX-200 (149 euro)

headphones:

Stanton DJ Pro 2000 (89 euro)
or:
Gemini EM-300 (84 euro)

so what do you think? is it good enough for a advance cd dj that begins with decks? hope to hear it!

regards,

Bram

Not too sure about the conversion, but I got 2 barely used Tech M3D's, 4 channel Numark mixer (1820x), 2 M44-7 complete needles, and a shipping case for $975 US shipped to me...all you would need there is some headphones...but if you are already a CD DJ, you should have some already.

what is conversion? thanx for the advise didnt get much out of it cause my english isnt that good any other comments would be welcome cause its a large ammount of money (for me though )

Bram..

Conversion from Euros to Dollars.

thanx

I'm not a huge fan of them JBsystem turntables, I got the Q30, And I'm not happy about it AT ALL. It has a VERY weak torque, it buzzes and the needle skips. I'd rather go for something better, like, eum, the SynQ XTRM-1 (450�)
http://www.new-line.nl/webshop/view.asp?i=11708

The ST100 from stanton:
http://www.orbit-dj.com/scripts/pro...p?ProductID=389
(it says 500�. But I can get it for ya for 389� (PM me)).


I hope you don't get one of those Q30's. You'll get sick of them after less than a month. It'll be a waiste of money( and like we know dutch people, they're pretty greedy (just kidding ))

just get some 1200s. i understand what it is to be on a budget. i put my technics m3ds on lay away for 2 months, i went and visited them every week, and i thought about getting my money back to just get something cheap so many times, cuz i wanted to spin so bad, and i wanted to spin NOW!. but when i finally got them, i wans the happiest guy in the world. they are now my pride and joy. trust me, save up a little more money, be patient, and get what you want, dont settle for only what you can afford.

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I hope you don't get one of those Q30's. You'll get sick of them after less than a month. It'll be a waiste of money( and like we know dutch people, they're pretty greedy (just kidding ))

the q30's have a: Starting torque: > 1600 g/cm
the technics have a: 1500 g/cm

the q30's are less stable (because they are lighter) and when i buy the q30 i get a better (concorde ) needle with it. They remove the caprice so the needle would be more stable. (dont mind the english cause its really bad a the moment).

so what do you guys think about it now. Any comment about the mixer and the headphone? for the headphone i go for the: Stanton DJ Pro 2000 (89 euro)

regards,

Bram

ps i know technics are the best but im still a bedroom dj! If i can turntable on the q30's i can do it on technics (i think)...

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Originally posted by Vero just get some 1200s. i understand what it is to be on a budget. i put my technics m3ds on lay away for 2 months, i went and visited them every week, and i thought about getting my money back to just get something cheap so many times, cuz i wanted to spin so bad, and i wanted to spin NOW!. but when i finally got them, i wans the happiest guy in the world. they are now my pride and joy. trust me, save up a little more money, be patient, and get what you want, dont settle for only what you can afford.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure you could find some posts on this forum from the beginning of 2003 where I was agonizing over which turntables to buy.

I bought a pair of Technics MK2s, and I've been very happy with them. And believe me, you realize that the price was worth it as soon as you unpack them from the boxes.

Chintz on your mixer (as I did), it can always be replaced later. But if you can possibly manage it, don't buy cheap turntables.

i saw another turntable (aprox. 350 euro)

what about this one?

High Torque Direct drive draaitafel (Op=Op)


7 grams of tone arm pressure and anti-skate adjustment
Quartz lock defeat button
Adjustable pitch control +/-10%
Adjustable hi-tech tone arm
Feather-touch start/stop control
Strobe illuminator
Pop-up target light
Headshell included



another oem product:

Features:

DJ turntable with ULTRA TORQUE motor Quartz-controlled for highest precision High-quality metal-chassis with chrome-plated finish Gleaming blue LED board Aluminum die-cast platter Premium height adjustable tonearm with Anti-Skating Pitchrange +/- 10/20% Switch for forward and reverse run Quartz lock Automatic Pitch Bend Electronic motor brake 3 speeds (33 1/3, 45 & 78 RPM) Stroboscope speed control Safety power switch Telescopic needle illumination Shock-absorbing feet Beat counter optional Remote control optional Supplied inc. Reloop headshell Supplied inc. Reloop neoprene slipmat

Technical:

Model: 3 speeds, fully manual Drive: 16 pole, 3 phase, brushless dc motor Starting torque: > 2200 g/cm Start/Stop times: < 1 sec. Time-change between speeds: < 1 sec. Wow & Flutter: < 0,15% WRMS at 33 1/3 RPM S/N Ratio: more as 50dB (DIN - B) Anti-Skating range: 0-7g Tracking force adjustment range: 0-4g Power consumption: 13 watts Power supply: 115/230V, 50/60 Hz Dimensions: 450(W) x 352(D) x 157(H)mm Weight: 10,1 kg


costs: 319 euro

i understand the whole issue of 1200s are the best. But as i am a poor student, and have been saving money and work extra for over 6 monthes now (i am so bad in saving money(gf, go out, you'll know it)) that i am sick of waiting! I want to spin NOW. every month i bought just 1 record, to keep me from getting freaked out.
I saw at new-line.nl the intermediate set, which is 2 reloop rp4000 mk2 chrome, 2 x Ortofon OMB-5 Element, 1 x Gemini PS-626i mixer and of course slipmats, for 669 euro, ex the dustplates, and ex fixing the 'space'.
I thought this was reasonable, and as i have a butget of 800 euro, i can buy a good headphone too. But what do you guys think of this set. Ok, no 1200s, but is it worth the money? Please give your oppinion, your thoughts about this!

sandah sends his regards!

check stanton titanium pak: http://djmart.com/stantitpakdj.html

the headphones and mixer arent amazing, but the tables are good.

st-100 tables: http://djmart.com/stansttur1.html

worth a look for sure

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Originally posted by sndh i understand the whole issue of 1200s are the best. But as i am a poor student, and have been saving money and work extra for over 6 monthes now (i am so bad in saving money(gf, go out, you'll know it)) that i am sick of waiting! I want to spin NOW. every month i bought just 1 record, to keep me from getting freaked out. I saw at new-line.nl the intermediate set, which is 2 reloop rp4000 mk2 chrome, 2 x Ortofon OMB-5 Element, 1 x Gemini PS-626i mixer and of course slipmats, for 669 euro, ex the dustplates, and ex fixing the 'space'. I thought this was reasonable, and as i have a butget of 800 euro, i can buy a good headphone too. But what do you guys think of this set. Ok, no 1200s, but is it worth the money? Please give your oppinion, your thoughts about this! sandah sends his regards!

i think its a good beginnning turntable pack, but for 60 euro's more you've got a better turntable (rp-5000) and more torque! looks better more stable, and heard it was the best oem product of its class. But im also waiting for some more comments about this (or the rp-4000) turntable.

regards,

Bram

thanks for your advice. I may have a look at the 5000s, anyone else comments? Really appreciate it!

Sander

heard that the gemini 2100 isnt made anyway...so be quick i think :S dont know where to buy them (new) cheap!

my first set of turntables were gemini pt-2000 III. it's the same as the pt-2400. if you can find either of those used in good shape you should be able to get them for a steal. their actually decent tables. a year later i upgraded to 1200's and having used both for an extended period of time the 2000 iii's or the 2400's are acceptable for "starting/mid-level" djs. they have really good torque. the platter action was really close to a 1200. the pitch slider was softer and the tone arm required a bit more weight to keep it as close to skip proof as an "s" shaped arm can get. but i got 2 of them for half the price of a new set of 1200s. if you can find a set in great condition used you should be able tot pick them up for about $250-$300 u.s. cheers.

p.s. nothing feels exactly like a 1200. long live the 1200!!!

My opinion for a setup for you:

Stanton STR8-90 Direct Drive Turntables (Pair) - 257.79 Euro
Behringer VMX-200 Mixer - 102.24 Euro
Behringer HD-280 Headphones - 85.9 Euro
Stanton 505 SK II Cartridge w/Stylus (Pair) - 51.52 Euro
Stanton Headshells (Pair) - 18.82 Euro

Total - 776.06 Euro (If you talk to DJ Tranz on TA, he can give you discounts on the products, from djmart.com)

Chances are you wont have to change the turntables and headphones (and headshells) for a long time because they are good stuff. Eventually you will upgrade your mixer and carts, so you dont need anything too expensive - and this falls right into your 700-800 range.

Stanton STR8-90 Direct Drive Turntables (Pair) - 257.79 Euro
is not an s shaped arm but straight for scratching...i dont think its very handy if it comes to beatmatching...anyway the prices are very very cheap! the cheapest vmx mixer i've found is 149 euro's!

what do you think about the rp-5000?

thanx in advance,

Bram..

Right now the Stanton ST-100 is on sale at djmart.com for 214.79 Euro each. It has a curved arm. I suggest you buy this - its a steal.

Ive never heard of the RP-5000.

The only names in turntables I trust are Techs, Numark, and Stanton.


Check out ebay for turntables and stuff as well, here are a few tips about shopping on ebay to avoid getting scammed:

1. Make sure the there is a picture of the turntable being sold, and not a picture of the turntable that you would normally see on a website.

2. Make sure that the turntable is in working condition.

3. Make sure you get a legit serial number - chances are if the person posted a pic of the turntable being sold, he wouldnt mind taking a snapshot of the barcode and serial # for verification.

*4. Dont be afraid to ask the seller questions (How long have you had it? Approximately how many hours have been played on it? Have any parts been replaced? Do any parts need any particular attention?)

*5. Make sure the seller is a good seller. Check his rating (anything below 97% is unacceptable - any person with alot of minus feedback is unacceptable - any person with 2 or more minus feedback within a month is unacceptable). Read some of the feedback.

6. Try your best to identify the product as authentic - some Technics can be fake - I usually dont even look at turntables with replaced covers unless it is another authentic cover, its a liability.


This is as much as I can think of off the top of my head. I bought 2 Technics off of ebay - total cost $560USD/481 Euro

thanks m8! you're helping me a lot, what i want to say is, the stanton st-100 is a oem product! just like the rp-5000. The only differents is: that the st-100 is 100 euro's CHEAPER then the rp-5000 and it's got a better name . But what are the shipping costs to holland? i cant see that on djmart.com! (or im just stupid!)

thanx in advance, and thanx for everything guys!

regards,

Bram

Do this - Add the turntable to your cart, than change the quantity to 2 and update the cart - the price should be 499.90 USD - click on check out and enter in all your information - Select the country (there is no Holland - I assume Netherlands is the same thing), and select shipping type: international.

Click next, Im pretty sure it should calculate the shipping charge by the information entered. Go to XE.com and convert whatever the shipping charge from USD to Euro.

Im guessing that the shipping charge would be approximately 35-40 Euros each turntable. This isnt in stone - I could be wrong.

Private message 'DJ Tranz' and talk to him about what you want, he works for the website and gives TA members discounts on equipment. Tell him what you want, and give him your City, Country and Zip Code, and he will calculate shipping.

thanks for helping me again this is what is says:

Warning: International is not a valid UPS shipping method. Tax or shipping may be added to your order. Or you may choose a different shipping method
Shipping 0.00
Tax 0.00
Subtotal for DJ MART >>equipment and accessories>> 499.90


anyway thanks and i pmed the guy! so also thanks for that tip!

regards,

Bram...

okay just to let you guys know, i have to pay a lot more then the 214 euro's for the decks! shipping costs, 19% taxes, and a lot of more b*llsh*t! so im thinking to buy the rp-5000 here in holland for 319 euro's (same deck only a other lay-out). What do you guys think of this 1?

regards,

Bram

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