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Ecstasy, Good or Bad?

I just responded to a post on Ecstasy and wanted to know what everybody felt about Ecstasy and the dance music scene. I'm curious about weather you feel it's messing the scene up or is it a good part of the experience for you. Just curious....

extasy has been given a very bad reputation, if the user is responsible and drinks water, doesnt mix it with other drugs ESPECIALLY alcohol, it is probably one of the safest drugs there are. So many myths exist about extasy it is rather sad and since it is a newer drug it gets blamed for a lot of things due to peoples lack of knowledge of it. Alot of people seriously dont understand chemistry, they merely think that alcohol plus extasy is some soft downer with a stimulant, rather than a chemical reaction but often cases are that 1 beer can put ya in a coma or siezure on extasy, on the other hand use it responsibly and it can make a very great evening, and everyone i have spoken with agrees that it gives you a deeper appreciation for the music after youve rolled and listened to it. People who are drug free right on! probably wiser, as for drugs you take any drug you are taking risks some more than others,
all in all i think extasys misconception sucks, and the drug is as good as the user.

Final verdict good, when used responsibly.

As for the straight edgers please dont turn this into a drugs are bad drug slandering post.

Well, me and the group Texas ******t have a similar opinion, so here's a quote from their interview...

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"41) What's your opinion on the drugs related to parties and the music ? Tim: I think people should start sniffing glue a lot more, because it is legal and it doesn't hurt. Pentti: It's not so like dangerous. Tim: Yes, because you don't get involved with criminals. And you get hallucinations and a psychedelic state. Pentti: And it is cheap! Tim: And you could never this kind of a state with the psychedelics they sell on the streets, I have heard. Also I think it is very rude the way these snuff dealers walk around at the parties selling snuff, snooze, Swedish tobacco. Pentti: You know Swedish snuff dealers. Tim: That's such a strong psychedelic that people need the proper spiritual guidance to accept the state. Pentti: And experienced guide. Preferably Swedish. Tim: I think people should stop taking that snooze stuff. Pentti: At least the rough stuff. Like 'pussinuuska', the snuff already in bags, it is a milder drug. Maybe it should be legalized. Not the bad stuff, not the hard stuff."

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Originally posted by DJDigDug extasy has been given a very bad reputation, if the user is responsible and drinks water, doesnt mix it with other drugs ESPECIALLY alcohol, it is probably one of the safest drugs there are. So many myths exist about extasy it is rather sad and since it is a newer drug it gets blamed for a lot of things due to peoples lack of knowledge of it. Alot of people seriously dont understand chemistry, they merely think that alcohol plus extasy is some soft downer with a stimulant, rather than a chemical reaction but often cases are that 1 beer can put ya in a coma or siezure on extasy, on the other hand use it responsibly and it can make a very great evening, and everyone i have spoken with agrees that it gives you a deeper appreciation for the music after youve rolled and listened to it. People who are drug free right on! probably wiser, as for drugs you take any drug you are taking risks some more than others, all in all i think extasys misconception sucks, and the drug is as good as the user. Final verdict good, when used responsibly. As for the straight edgers please dont turn this into a drugs are bad drug slandering post.

WOW, I really feel that the above sums it up. I think the place that the general population is going wrong is just a simple lack of knowledge about the drug, and the understand that ANYTHING used in moderation can be safe and enjoyable as long as it�s used in a responsible manner.

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear Well, me and the group Texas ******t have a similar opinion, so here's a quote from their interview...

Looks like you have got it all figured out for yourself. I mean no harm by my comment, it's what the original post is all about.

Like many things in life, I believe Ecstacy is good if used properly and in moderation, but it can be bad if used improperly, ignorantly, or excessivly

why ESPECIALLY not alcohol? whats wrong with mixing the 2?

I've had some beer before, and then E.

It's all a matter of personal preference whether or not you choose to use it.

People who criticize those who do take it from time to time need to learn to respect other people's opinions.

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Originally posted by UWM It's all a matter of personal preference whether or not you choose to use it. People who criticize those who do take it from time to time need to learn to respect other people's opinions.

WORD!

Alcohol dehydrates you... but if you do it in moderation, it's no more harmful than dancing..... this image below(courtesy thedea.org) says it all..



now what do you wanna eat?

I vote Ecstasy... as long as used in moderation it's fine.

http://www.bluelight.nu is a GREAT source of info... you might also check out HTTP://www.erowid.org

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH why ESPECIALLY not alcohol? whats wrong with mixing the 2? I've had some beer before, and then E.

it's not like there's going to be a chemical reaction from mixing the two, lol. it's just that alcohol dehydrates your body, and that's something you want to avoid when you're high on E in a hot dancefloor. also, purists might say that alcohol contaminates the high, which makes sense.

anyhow, the trance/edm scene owes a LOT to E. it can be very bad for you if you take it regularly or mix it with other shit. and it can also lose its initial charm after a while. so the best thing is to do it on very very special ocassions.

my mates girl had 1 beer with a hit of E and went into shock, that is why i say especially not alcohol, lots of expiriences with E and Alcohol = 105 temperature and bad side effects, just my advice it aint wise, its your body chance it if ya want, but water is best friend for someone who is rolling, that or gatorade :P The two just dont combine well,

as for Extasy it is ironic its harms list is almost identical to gardening on a hot summer day

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Originally posted by filteredphunk Alcohol dehydrates you... but if you do it in moderation, it's no more harmful than dancing..... this image below(courtesy thedea.org) says it all.. now what do you wanna eat? I vote Ecstasy... as long as used in moderation it's fine. http://www.bluelight.nu is a GREAT source of info... you might also check out HTTP://www.erowid.org

I like the graph you put up BUT I'm just not sure on how accurate the info is. One thing, where's alcohol?

110,000 for marijuana? Food poisoning from the munchies?

Anyhow, alcohol and E are a bad combination because alcohol dehydrates you.

edit: the stats are coming from http://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/pubs_94_02/pickatable/2002/2.2.0.xls ... it doesn't say whether these were in combination or alone, either, though.

too bad it ecstasy makes you look like a retard, act like a retard, causes depression the next day and loses your motivation to do anything productive.

IM A BIG KETAMINE FAN.




Any more of you out there?.......

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Originally posted by gOOD-tRiP too bad it ecstasy makes you look like a retard, act like a retard, causes depression the next day and loses your motivation to do anything productive.

hey, you just proved a really valid point. that you dont know shit about ecstacy. congradulations. for your information, ive taken e a few times, never over a pill at a time. no one could even tell i was rolling unless i told them, thus meaning i didnt look or act like a retard, felt great the next day EVERYTIME and actually went out the next day, worked out, and went to work and felt fucking spectacular.

if your anti-drugs, good for you. but if your going to bash drug use, especially ecstacy, provide a statement with facts to back it up, not petty generalizations, because you didnt prove anything, and made your self look like an uneducated twat.

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Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL hey, you just proved a really valid point. that you dont know shit about ecstacy. congradulations. for your information, ive taken e a few times, never over a pill at a time. no one could even tell i was rolling unless i told them, thus meaning i didnt look or act like a retard, felt great the next day EVERYTIME and actually went out the next day, worked out, and went to work and felt fucking spectacular. if your anti-drugs, good for you. but if your going to bash drug use, especially ecstacy, provide a statement with facts to back it up, not petty generalizations, because you didnt prove anything, and made your self look like an uneducated twat.

Well said!

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Originally posted by gOOD-tRiP too bad it ecstasy makes you look like a retard, act like a retard, causes depression the next day and loses your motivation to do anything productive.

Actually (like everyone else has been saying here on this thread), you can take E safely and you can also do it in a way that you wont get "blue mondays" as the day-after is usually called.

In addition to drinking lots of water while doing E, it is also vital to drink ades afterwards.. orange juice is good, so is pretty much anything with vitamin C and antioxidants. Also you may also get SSRI's at the local GNC vitamin store. SSRI's (Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors) help your seratonin level get back to normal.

As for taking E, do it in a conrolled environment with people you know and trust. Again, like everyone else has said, do not mix other drugs. This includes alcohol! And be careful of hyponetria! That occurs when you have too much water..some people overcompensate by drinking too much water and thus their salt levels get alarmingly low.

In all I agree that yes E can be a safe drug, if the proper enviromental and precautionary elements are taken into consideration

aren't the only people in the clubs that are sucking each other's dicks on ecstasy?

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Originally posted by DJDigDug extasy has been given a very bad reputation, if the user is responsible and drinks water, doesnt mix it with other drugs ESPECIALLY alcohol, it is probably one of the safest drugs there are. So many myths exist about extasy it is rather sad and since it is a newer drug it gets blamed for a lot of things due to peoples lack of knowledge of it. Alot of people seriously dont understand chemistry, they merely think that alcohol plus extasy is some soft downer with a stimulant, rather than a chemical reaction but often cases are that 1 beer can put ya in a coma or siezure on extasy, on the other hand use it responsibly and it can make a very great evening, and everyone i have spoken with agrees that it gives you a deeper appreciation for the music after youve rolled and listened to it. People who are drug free right on! probably wiser, as for drugs you take any drug you are taking risks some more than others, all in all i think extasys misconception sucks, and the drug is as good as the user. Final verdict good, when used responsibly. As for the straight edgers please dont turn this into a drugs are bad drug slandering post.

that is not true. i took it, I drank water, i didnt mix anything with it, and what happened to me? I ended up in a bathtub filled with water and ice cubes because my body temp was so high i thought i was going to die. I wasn't even dancing on the shit. peoples bodies react differently and with the shit most E makers are putting into the pills now, in the long run it's going to have serious affects. i'm not claiming to know every detail about it but it pisses me off when certain people think they know everything about the drug just because nothing has gone wrong with them yet. people are going to do it regardless but don't preach that E is so great and safe because it really isn't.
as far as the club scene goes, it does ruin it to a certain effect. What happened to the music and dancing being the most important? So many people have to roll every single time they go just to have a good time. It use to be about the vibes of trance music, not being drugged up all of the time.

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Originally posted by djSlain aren't the only people in the clubs that are sucking each other's dicks on ecstasy?

Why can't you have a intelligent conversation about the topic at hand? And the reason everyone�s sucking dicks is NOT because they are on drugs it's because your in a gay bar.

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Originally posted by DjGrl2000 that is not true. i took it, I drank water, i didnt mix anything with it, and what happened to me? I ended up in a bathtub filled with water and ice cubes because my body temp was so high i thought i was going to die. I wasn't even dancing on the shit. peoples bodies react differently and with the shit most E makers are putting into the pills now, in the long run it's going to have serious affects. i'm not claiming to know every detail about it but it pisses me off when certain people think they know everything about the drug just because nothing has gone wrong with them yet. people are going to do it regardless but don't preach that E is so great and safe because it really isn't. as far as the club scene goes, it does ruin it to a certain effect. What happened to the music and dancing being the most important? So many people have to roll every single time they go just to have a good time. It use to be about the vibes of trance music, not being drugged up all of the time.

You bring up a good point. Yes not everyone will have the same effect and some people do everything textbook correct and still have a bad trip.

I, myself, only know a great detail about E because I researched it immensely for a huge paper i wrote about it. I have never done E and never will. ITs just not my thing. But I do agree that it can be done safely if done right. I feel like I'm on both sides of the issue here because I dont want to say go out and have fun rolling, and i dont want to say fuck E and all it stands for.

People have the right to an informed opinion before taking ecstasy, its that simple.

And I'm not going into detail about the EDM scene. Therein lies another topic of discussion. We all know the bad rep E gives to clubs and the rave circuit. on the other hand many people also can testify firsthand about the amazing sensation they've had while on E whilst listening to trance. Another debate looms about this topic, im sure....

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Originally posted by Mebot You bring up a good point. Yes not everyone will have the same effect and some people do everything textbook correct and still have a bad trip. I, myself, only know a great detail about E because I researched it immensely for a huge paper i wrote about it. I have never done E and never will. ITs just not my thing. But I do agree that it can be done safely if done right. I feel like I'm on both sides of the issue here because I dont want to say go out and have fun rolling, and i dont want to say fuck E and all it stands for. People have the right to an informed opinion before taking ecstasy, its that simple. And I'm not going into detail about the EDM scene. Therein lies another topic of discussion. We all know the bad rep E gives to clubs and the rave circuit. on the other hand many people also can testify firsthand about the amazing sensation they've had while on E whilst listening to trance. Another debate looms about this topic, im sure....

I personally think the safest way to use E is if you get a pill that is pure MDMA, and that is very hard to find nowadays. Alot of E makers have put horrible shit in the pills such as DXM. That's what I think might have been in my pill the last time i rolled because I could not sweat at all so my body temp. just kept getting higher and higher. One of the reasons E ruins the scene so bad is because all these organizations are actually trying to ban all rave and trance/techno concerts because of the drug. I believe it's called the National Rave Act or something. It's horrible, and I hope they never succeed. We use to have a show here every summer called rave on the rocks, and they made the radio station change the name because they said raves are associated with Ecstasy. They even tryed to ban the show permanently. See how it's ruining the scene?

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Originally posted by DjGrl2000 I personally think the safest way to use E is if you get a pill that is pure MDMA, and that is very hard to find nowadays. Alot of E makers have put horrible shit in the pills such as DXM. That's what I think might have been in my pill the last time i rolled because I could not sweat at all so my body temp. just kept getting higher and higher. One of the reasons E ruins the scene so bad is because all these organizations are actually trying to ban all rave and trance/techno concerts because of the drug. I believe it's called the National Rave Act or something. It's horrible, and I hope they never succeed. We use to have a show here every summer called rave on the rocks, and they made the radio station change the name because they said raves are associated with Ecstasy. They even tryed to ban the show permanently. See how it's ruining the scene?

It's called the Reducing America's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act, and you're too late because it already passed. The US government already has been using it to shutdown parties.

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