Just recived my Barton 2500 .. here is some info!

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Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 16:41:

Just recived my Barton 2500 .. here is some info!

For those who are looking for a new CPU, look no further, Barton 2500 is the chip for you.
I used to have (till today) an Athlon XP 1700 which I ran at 2.2Ghz wich minor vcore buump, but today when I recived my Barton 2500, I poped it in and it currently runs at 2.3GHz and recognized as an Athlon XP3200!!
Im still gonna try to take it higher and make sure everything is stable, but this chip is THE SHIT!! I paid 70 bucks for an Athlon XP3200, and SiSoft Sandra shows that my chip rapes a P4 3Ghz
Damn Im so happy!

Posted by djSlain on Oct-07-2003 17:05:

are u using anything to regulate the temperature?
I don't remember where i saw this but there's a video of some guys who overclock a 3ghz to 8ghz (or was it 18?) and used dry ice to keep it running for about 3 minutes, then boom, dead chip

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
are u using anything to regulate the temperature?
I don't remember where i saw this but there's a video of some guys who overclock a 3ghz to 8ghz (or was it 18?) and used dry ice to keep it running for about 3 minutes, then boom, dead chip

I use an SLK800A + SFII as cooling, and so far it keeps it a cool 40

Posted by DemonicAardvark on Oct-07-2003 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
are u using anything to regulate the temperature?
I don't remember where i saw this but there's a video of some guys who overclock a 3ghz to 8ghz (or was it 18?) and used dry ice to keep it running for about 3 minutes, then boom, dead chip

but anyways, no.. there is no way you could get 8 ghz with dry ice. people struggle to get 4.5 ghz with liquid nitrogen. link plz?

Posted by whiskers on Oct-07-2003 20:08:

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Originally posted by DemonicAardvark

but anyways, no.. there is no way you could get 8 ghz with dry ice. people struggle to get 4.5 ghz with liquid nitrogen. link plz?

afaik, dry ice is -73C and liquid nitrogen is around -46C (or is it -123?) correct me if i'm wrong.

btw, does anyone have a link that explains to me WHY exactly cpus get hot when you overclock them to like 8 ghz?

Posted by DemonicAardvark on Oct-07-2003 20:49:

I think dry ice is around -100f and liquid nitrogen is around -321f.

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 21:03:

Stop thread hi-jacking, wtf!

Posted by AZCA on Oct-07-2003 21:08:

Re: Just recived my Barton 2500 .. here is some info!

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 21:20:

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Originally posted by AZCA
how did u do it? procedure please

give me links to the colling system please!

thank you!

You just got to the bios and set everything up, as for cooling I use SLK800A + SmartFan II.
I just benchmarked, and my XP2500 was by a mile faster then a P4 3.06GHz

Posted by AZCA on Oct-07-2003 21:21:

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Originally posted by ThaDevil
You just got to the bios and set everything up, as for cooling I use SLK800A + SmartFan II.
I just benchmarked, and my XP2500 was by a mile faster then a P4 3.06GHz

what do u mean u just set it up?

settings? did u change the FSB from 333 to what?

I know multiplier is unlocked to 12.5 so u get 2800+.

but with 3200+, I wanna know the FSB, multiplier and Voltage, also the clock and type of RAM.

thanx.

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 21:41:

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Originally posted by AZCA
what do u mean u just set it up?

settings? did u change the FSB from 333 to what?

I know multiplier is unlocked to 12.5 so u get 2800+.

but with 3200+, I wanna know the FSB, multiplier and Voltage, also the clock and type of RAM.

thanx.

Ok, this is exactly how my shit is right now

AthlonXP 2500 @ 2.4Ghz 12x200 @ 1.75vcore
the ram I have is a top of the line Corsair XMS DDR400 512

Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-07-2003 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
btw, does anyone have a link that explains to me WHY exactly cpus get hot when you overclock them to like 8 ghz?

WEEELLLL... *makes cup of tea*

hehe

it is actually rather simple: The problem is caused by capacitance in the junctions.

Since the chips are digital there are only two legitimate values: 0 and 1. Of course in your chip this would translate to 0V or 1.8V (or whatever your core voltage is). Each time any value in your chip changes from a 0 to a 1 or vice versa, you need to 'instantly' drive the voltage from 0 to 1.8V or the other way around.

If you junction was a logic 0, 0V, and needs to be a logic 1 now, you need to provide enough charge to 'fill' the capacitor.

When you need to move charge, you create a current. As you remember from your physics class P (power dissipated) = I^2 * R (square of current times resistance). If you dissipate power, you generate heat, just like your electric stove would.

As you increase the chip speed, you decrease the time, which is alloted for the charge to fill or discharge the capacitance. Therefore, you need higher currents at higher speeds. Which translates into a higher power consumption and power dissipation.

hope that helps, if it is NOT clear, I will try to find you an article in english.. the last one I had was in hardcopy and in german

Greg

Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-07-2003 22:35:

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Originally posted by ThaDevil
Ok, this is exactly how my shit is right now

AthlonXP 2500 @ 2.4Ghz 12x200 @ 1.75vcore
the ram I have is a top of the line Corsair XMS DDR400 512

hmm, not sure, but i think i ran my 1700+ that I bought in February at 11 x 200 as well... with stock Vcore. Not sure, since it's been about 6000 miles away from me since may..

Posted by whiskers on Oct-07-2003 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
Since the chips are digital there are only two legitimate values: 0 and 1. Of course in your chip this would translate to 0V or 1.8V (or

hope that helps, if it is NOT clear, I will try to find you an article in english.. the last one I had was in hardcopy and in german

ah, i see, no need to put it in english, voltage changes explain everything... man, that physics class was sorta fun. thanks for the explanation.

Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-07-2003 22:43:

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Originally posted by whiskers
ah, i see, no need to put it in english, voltage changes explain everything... man, that physics class was sorta fun. thanks for the explanation.

anytime

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 23:02:

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Originally posted by drizzt81
hmm, not sure, but i think i ran my 1700+ that I bought in February at 11 x 200 as well... with stock Vcore. Not sure, since it's been about 6000 miles away from me since may..

Mine is 12x200 not 11x200 .... and Im actually testing it right now as I type this at 12x220 .... I'll report back with results.

Posted by drizzt81 on Oct-07-2003 23:05:

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Originally posted by ThaDevil
Mine is 12x200 not 11x200 .... and Im actually testing it right now as I type this at 12x220 .... I'll report back with results.

yes, but your chip is a LOT newer than mine. Plus i was mostly limited by my board. It was the 'shitty' version of the Abit nForce 2. Wouldn't do anything >200 bus.. SLK800 here too

good luck mate

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 23:07:

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Originally posted by drizzt81
yes, but your chip is a LOT newer than mine. Plus i was mostly limited by my board. It was the 'shitty' version of the Abit nForce 2. Wouldn't do anything >200 bus.. SLK800 here too

good luck mate

LOL thanks man, Im trying to reach the 2.6GHz mark and I'll be very happy.
So far I'm very happy and impressed with this chip, runs 2.4GHz no sweat and totally whoops a P4 3.06GHz.... you cant beat that for 70 some bucks

Posted by Fandom on Oct-07-2003 23:11:

Re: Just recived my Barton 2500 .. here is some info!

quote:
Originally posted by ThaDevil
For those who are looking for a new CPU, look no further, Barton 2500 is the chip for you.
I used to have (till today) an Athlon XP 1700 which I ran at 2.2Ghz wich minor vcore buump, but today when I recived my Barton 2500, I poped it in and it currently runs at 2.3GHz and recognized as an Athlon XP3200!!
Im still gonna try to take it higher and make sure everything is stable, but this chip is THE SHIT!! I paid 70 bucks for an Athlon XP3200, and SiSoft Sandra shows that my chip rapes a P4 3Ghz
Damn Im so happy!

Lol,im sure you're using an Abit nf7-s mono/,without appying the newest bios..its a mistake that recognizes an o/ced 2500+ barton as 3200.
heheh...anyway,its a very good speed and congrats on your setup,but i wonder if you're stable. You've run prime95 for a day or so,or anything like 100x burn-in wizard of sisoft sandra?
Thats what proves stability of an o/c system,or maaany hours of divx encoding,or 3d2003 with all stuff on(full power).

And i really dont know if 8 ghz is possible from a 3.2 ghz cpu

edit: your chip does not "rape" a p4 3ghz,cause that chip can go up to 3.8 for fun. But you've got a superb and cheap setup, so you really should be happy

break the 2.5ghz man!

Posted by ThaDevil on Oct-07-2003 23:26:

I have Asus A7N8X Deluxe 2.00 which whoops the shit out of Abit nF7 (I know from experience).
I ran SiSoft Sandra for few hours now without a hitch.

Posted by Fandom on Oct-07-2003 23:58:

wow..and i thought i knew something for sure.
thats a very good mobo there...im on the asus side myself,they make superb stuff.
and sandra without hitches is a very good thing..i always get problems from a lot o/c in 3d mark 2003 tho,maybe u can try that out?
and good luck with your setup there!

btw.your avatar kicks ass! how did u do it?
cool sh*t