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I was just wondering what everyones opinions on using computers to DJ is. Ive made a roughly 20 minute long combo of songs(you cant mix using VideoMach). So whats everyones idea on it?
Totally do-able... easier than live mixing since the better computer DJing programs can very accurately calculate the BPMs of MP3 tracks... no need to beatmatch. The best program out there right now for DJing is the reborn version of AtomixMP3 called Virtual DJ...
www.virtualdj.com
It's over 100 dollars, but one of the best programs out there. Download the Mix Station Skin, gives it even more features.
I've done quite a number of full-length (70-80) minute mixed compilations where the mixing and transitions are near flawless. But of course, you have to move on up to REAL djing sooner or later.
basically your a whore if you use auto bpms on anything if you are that experienced where you feel like saying "o i can do this blind lemme just use auto bpms for this mix" then obviously you can't do it blind. i hate auto-bpms it takes away from everything that is apart of djing at least the first and most imporstant step of it. i persoanlly use a comination of final scratch, my original vinyl collection and pcdj red,pcdj-fx none with auto bpm scanned or auto gain. just get used to it. you have to beat match stop looking for easy ways out. practice practice. i've trained 4 people so far and they have all become fantastic djs. it just takes time and the willingness to learn. peace off.. thank your drive thrue - n0 LaG 2 table 1a l8z
if you are only going to go as far as djing on the computer for yourself or whatever, go ahead and use autobpm, not like you need to practice beat matching or something. and tempest, if ya go final scratch, why do you use pcdj?
Ok, i was just making sure i wouldnt be dissed in the DJing world for doing some computer DJing before getting my actuall equipment. My moms getting some good money from selling our excess tack(horse equipment) on Ebay, so hopefully ill be able to get my stuff soon.
And you know how you were talking about the price? Pricetags dont mean shitz0r to me. Ares was made for that
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EDIT: And i sort of figured out before hand that anyone who auto-bpms is a total n00b who dosnt even deserve the title of DJ.
Traktor is probably the best Computer DJ software out so far.
i use tractor along with my decks (2 cd 1 vinil)think its the best but since im using cd decks and vinil decks with it the auto bpm dosent work also i think your takeing away from the art of djing if you use auto bpm
Ok, ill look into getting tractor then. Im not going to pay any money though, as i use warez
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| Originally posted by Kamikaze Badger Ok, i was just making sure i wouldnt be dissed in the DJing world for doing some computer DJing before getting my actuall equipment. My moms getting some good money from selling our excess tack(horse equipment) on Ebay, so hopefully ill be able to get my stuff soon. And you know how you were talking about the price? Pricetags dont mean shitz0r to me. Ares was made for that .EDIT: And i sort of figured out before hand that anyone who auto-bpms is a total n00b who dosnt even deserve the title of DJ. |
I started out using Traktor on the pc, i had no idea about mixing but gradually learnt and could mix fairly well (so i thought) on my computer. Made a few mix cds relying totally on the auto-sync function to keep the tracks in time and i thought it sounded great.
Now after owning turntables for a year i listen to old mix cds i made with traktor, the beats are always a little off. You can't rely on the auto-sync, it just doesn't work properly. The only way to mix with these programs is to do it by ear and even then the tracks will be in time and then magically drift off beat when they are supposedly travelling at exactly the same bpm.
Still they are good fun to play around with...
I use Traktor DJ Studio 2, it works. U can get pretty perfect beatmatching and do some cool stuff with it, but I get bored after 20minutes of mixing, its just too easy. If you don't have turntables like me, its alright, but it does get boring after a while, thats why I'm getting tables pretty soon
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| Originally posted by hadi ****** anyone who djs on the computer doesnt deserve the title of dj, but if that is as far as they are going to go, then who gives a shit |
Beat visualization is the worst! Just because you can see the beats doesn't mean they're going to sound good lined up with each other. You need to be able to hear how one beat will complement the other, the fact that Atomix doesn't give you a way to do this just SUCKS.
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| Originally posted by hadi ****** if you are only going to go as far as djing on the computer for yourself or whatever, go ahead and use autobpm, not like you need to practice beat matching or something. and tempest, if ya go final scratch, why do you use pcdj? |
Hah, what a dick.
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| Originally posted by hadi ****** anyone who djs on the computer doesnt deserve the title of dj, but if that is as far as they are going to go, then who gives a shit |
Ok, after spending 10 minutes fiddling around with the Traktor DJ Studio 2 demo, i think im finally getting into this. Now i just need to handle the whole bpm thing.
I'm an amateur DJ and I'm not sure how much further I'll go, but here's my 2 cents worth. IMO you need good equipment for any type of work, so it's a choice between spending money on computers/software, or on conventional DJ turntables/CD decks.
I like Traktor, it runs fine on a fast computer and quality sound card, but it has a few minor bugs and problems. But if I go further, it will be as a computer DJ, because it's obvious that computers and software will get better, while those who use turntables are using a technology that is not going to get much better.
If you have quality CDs or vinyl records it's possible to do a good job of ripping them so you get the same sound quality from the mp3. If you don't want to compress the music to mp3 you can use WAV files which is the format on a regular audio CD.
I did some tests where I digitized a new vinyl record into my computer, and compared the sound from vinyl, WAV, 128k mp3 and 256k mp3, and I could hear very little difference. I do all my own mp3 rips at 256k which is probably overkill. Other people who did a bad ripping job on mp3s you might have found on the WWW, might have been using poorly recorded records or CDs, bad turntables, incorrect recording levels from vinyl, and older low-quality mp3 encoder software.
It seems to me that a DJ does a lot of things. If he or she gets some help from the computer in some of those activities, he's still a DJ. He needs to listen to LOTS of music, select and learn about his genres of music, select the tracks he will play, decide on the playing sequence, move the tracks onto the real or virtual decks, get the tracks into the right position, do beatmatching, do the transition mix, and maybe do some additional mixing during the track play.
The computer can help with some of that work, maybe with the beatmatching if the DJ is using the right type of music. Definitely the computer can help the DJ find the tracks and put them on the decks. The DJ can use the time saved to observe the dance floor reactions, plan and set up the next tracks, or just relax and have a little more fun. In other words, potentially the computer can help someone do a better job.
I probably shouldn't be saying all this. I want everyone out there, who could be competitors, to just stay away from computers, OK? They're very bad. 
diesel0 who is that sweetass girl in your posts... ?
Im only going to use computers to practice DJing untill i get my decks. Im DJing in chicago in 2006, and i need all the practice i can get.
And if you want to hear a good(in my opinion) computer DJ, get at track by DJ Doboy. My favorite is Trancequility Special Summer Edition Vol. 1.
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| Originally posted by Kamikaze Badger Im only going to use computers to practice DJing untill i get my decks. Im DJing in chicago in 2006, and i need all the practice i can get. And if you want to hear a good(in my opinion) computer DJ, get at track by DJ Doboy. My favorite is Trancequility Special Summer Edition Vol. 1. |
tell me more .. im interested
I personnaly am not to fon of computers mixing for you.. Honestly, i dont think its DJ;ing when a compter does it for you. All the auto beat matching and shit doesnt do it for me...
anywyas, i just like using hands on materials like turntbales, i get bored clicking a mouse eveytime i want a command.. thanks
Thats why most of us dont use any auto stuff. Im only going to use it untill i get my decks.
And on the gig:
Redcon '06 is a major Redwall Fan event taking place in chicago, illinois. There will be dancing among all the other stuff, and i will play and mix some songs. For more info, go to http://way.to/redcon
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| Originally posted by Billabong What a load of bullshit, i mix on my computer at the moment, and im getting decks this christmas, i already have a lot of records. Anyone like you dosnt deserve to be a DJ, everyone has to start out somewhere. |
2.5 coming out soon!!
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| Originally posted by diesel0 Traktor is probably the best Computer DJ software out so far. |
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