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Posted by djSlain on Oct-09-2003 00:07:

Majoring in Computer Science

simple and to the point:
I'm going for a major in Computer Science just to add to the Resume as i'm already well into computer networking and various computer languages. I'm currently going to a community college and i plan to transfer to a university later. I would just like to compare the classes required to get this major. I'm looking at the transfer sheet and i'm seeing things from chemistry to various levels in calculus to system analysis and other things. so, any help?


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-09-2003 00:20:

if you are majoring in compsci, you def need calculus and i think linear algebra, may be physics too and may be a philosophy course (intro to logic).

Dunno why you need chemistry unless you are doing any engineering.

Different institutions have diff prereqs and required courses, you just have to do them

im a biosci major and i had to take 2 courses in calculus and 2 in physics. Seriously beats me why i had to take em.


Posted by malek on Oct-09-2003 00:30:

it sucks to say that, but if you already have a job in IT good! keep it! if not, don't study in IT. The job market is way too saturated and lots of IT jobs in the US are moved to India and China


Posted by Shook1 on Oct-09-2003 00:33:

Smoking ..umm..something

I too majored in comp sci when I started FAU here in FL. but eventually changed my major due to the extensive Calc classes(I&II) and PhysicsI&II/Chemistry and a whole bunch of other sh!t that needed serious dedication !!!! I eventually changed to something more my speed. Maybe later though


Posted by SebG on Oct-09-2003 00:37:

Thats why i stopped with CIS major. No jobs.


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-09-2003 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by SebTheDJ
Thats why i stopped with CIS major. No jobs.


yeah, thats why i didnt major in it either. math and programming all day is not my idea of fun.


Posted by djSlain on Oct-09-2003 01:00:

ur all making me nervous

::scared::


Posted by calldown on Oct-09-2003 01:20:

CS... ick. I dunno, the way I see CS going is the way Typing went back in the day - you used to be able to take hardcore typing courses and such, and if you had you'd be set for a job, but then it became a basic skill everyone had. I can see CS going that way shortly too. :\ I know that in the KW/ TO area CS positions are few and far between. University of Waterloo co-op placements for CS are extremely low, like 3/10 or something I think. Very messy times.

On the other hand, to get into UW you need 2 sciences, 2 maths and at least 1 comp sci credit. Oh, and that crazy thing called english too.

I was going to go for CS, but now I'm thinking Physics or Engineering or *gasp* Arts, I figure I could just apply the programming I know there.

Hope this helps.

-calldown


Posted by Izzy on Oct-09-2003 02:06:

It really depends on the university.
each one has their own core class requirements regardless of major.
i'd recommend just emailing an CS advisor from the university you are interested, they are usually very friendly. ask for a ciriculum sheet and that way you know what classes are required for the major. you wont have any doubts then.


Posted by Intense_Sounds on Oct-09-2003 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
if you are majoring in compsci, you def need calculus and i think linear algebra


yes, that is correct. you need calculus, linear algebra, and discrete mathematics.

you'll love discrete mathematics (haha)

there are also different concentrations within comSci, such as graphics, which require more math classes (ie: linear algebra II)

if you got strong mathematical skills and strong problem solving skills, then you should be fine.


Posted by <--ME--> on Oct-09-2003 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
yeah, thats why i didnt major in it either. math and programming all day is not my idea of fun.


it is for me! bring on the math and java! (currently the only language i know)


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-09-2003 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by <--ME-->
it is for me! bring on the math and java! (currently the only language i know)


mmm java...er coffee that is


Posted by mettkea on Oct-09-2003 02:38:

if your looking into computer science, check out the Software Engineering field as well. I'm majoring in SE right know, with 3 semesters left (hopefully)!!


Posted by Vivid Boy on Oct-09-2003 02:39:

drop out....i had to after 1 year of that shit....fuck comp sci worst mistake ever...should have never copied my best friends College/program application sheet back in highschool lol


Posted by Trancention on Oct-09-2003 02:43:

Now I feel stupid for going to major in Classical French Cooking..bah cooking is better anyways.


Posted by Orbax on Oct-09-2003 02:43:

My dad runs several high-tech consulting firms. We do business with everyone from Boeing to Washington mutual and the military. You wanna know what he looks for on a resume?

that they have a 4 year degree. he MIGHT look at what college its from, and the major he could give a shit less about. Its about what youve done, who you know, and length of experience. But even more important than that is how you present yourself during the interview. Thats it. Thats the whole thing. Anywhere that wants a CompSci degree is a place you dont want to work at.


Posted by whiskers on Oct-09-2003 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Intense_Sounds
you'll love discrete mathematics (haha)



was that a joke? discrete math is fucking weird.

vector calculus sucks and so does linear algebra.

i don't even know why i'm going to college... but at least i have a high speed connection, so that's a plus. CS is a tough major, and no, it shouldn't require chemistry.


Posted by whiskers on Oct-09-2003 03:07:

and...



OMG, orbax is back... sober now?


Posted by Orbax on Oct-09-2003 03:26:

no hehe


Posted by djSlain on Oct-09-2003 03:43:

I do have a lot of knowledge from networking and i hope to possibly be picked up by Cisco and Novell. Especially now since almost every peice of software out there uses servers to expand their capabilities. Someone must run the networks, create netcode, etc etc etc.
i know that can set me for life, but i'd just like to get into Computer Science just as backup if i suddenly lose interest in networking or the market for networkers fails (grrr, the Dummies/Idiots books has added so many people to the list). I have a fascination with Computer Science as much as i had a fascination with Legos and stuff as a child. I like building things and seeing them work.
is there another rising computer field that u all would recommend over CS?


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-09-2003 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
I have a fascination with Computer Science as much as i had a fascination with Legos and stuff as a child. I like building things and seeing them work.
is there another rising computer field that u all would recommend over CS?


CS isnt a bad major really, i would think majoring in geography or something would not be a good choice if you want money.

Equally as good (more or less) other majors:

MGIS (management information systems) - probably in the school of business where you learn to use information systems to help boost efficiency and productivity in business. IBM and other companies are driving this right now. Take a look at IBM commercials

Software Engineering

Mechanical Engineering (you said you like builing and seeing stuff works, you can do biomedical studies)


if you like Compsci then go through with it


Posted by djSlain on Oct-09-2003 04:01:

hey, thanx for all the info Dmatrox and all. i appreciate it


Posted by Orbax on Oct-09-2003 04:06:

This is the era of specialization my friend. Become a Remedy GURU or a Visual Basic.NET or C sharp whiz. If you can learn how to turn a stupid looking remedy app into something that looks awesome and works on the net learn how to architect VB.net over a remedy platform. THATS is what the key is. Any other stuff is just because you like learning. Take a major you want to learn about. anything else is a waste of your time. Free time is for being productive, study time is for learning.


Posted by malek on Oct-09-2003 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
My dad runs several high-tech consulting firms. We do business with everyone from Boeing to Washington mutual and the military. You wanna know what he looks for on a resume?

that they have a 4 year degree. he MIGHT look at what college its from, and the major he could give a shit less about. Its about what youve done, who you know, and length of experience. But even more important than that is how you present yourself during the interview. Thats it. Thats the whole thing. Anywhere that wants a CompSci degree is a place you dont want to work at.


pure BS, thats exactly the places where you wouldn't want to work at the first place. paper-pushing-bs-talking people who look good but are zero technically.

the best advice you can get is while you're in comp sci. or right after you graduate (while looking for those rare jobs) certify yourself in some technology that you like. For example Sun Java, MCDBA, MCAD, Cisco, Security+, etc etc there's so many of them. Whats hot now is Security and .Net

A general bachelor isn't enough nowadays, companies look for certified and specialized people.


Posted by Orbax on Oct-09-2003 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
pure BS, thats exactly the places where you wouldn't want to work at the first place. paper-pushing-bs-talking people who look good but are zero technically.


we dont hire people on a whim. One of our employees is an XML guru with no formal training yet was asked to speak at the world XML conventions in Germany (hes fluent in german) australia, france etc...

And please, there is obviously more to the hiring process than that. We didnt become insanely successful by hiring used car salesmen.


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