Kaoss Pad 2, EFX500, or something else?

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Posted by dynamix on Oct-09-2003 04:50:

Kaoss Pad 2, EFX500, or something else?

Well, after deciding to go with a xone 62 I want to get something with all the effects/sampling etc.. What do you guys recommend? thanks

Dynamix

Posted by Sharpy on Oct-09-2003 16:32:

xone62 for home use?

Posted by KristineClub on Oct-09-2003 19:04:

I have the KP2 and it's awesome. don't know anything about that other one though.

Posted by Tiger777 on Oct-09-2003 19:33:

It's a decent maching, I say you get the pioneer thing...(personal experience)

Posted by dynamix on Oct-10-2003 01:08:

Yeah, the Xone 62 will be for home use

Dynamix

Posted by Dj Thy on Oct-10-2003 11:14:

I prefer the KP2 personally, better sounding, easier in use and more versatile (midi capability allows you to use it as a XY pad in production also).
Best with the Xone:62 (got one too, excellent choice ) is to use the aux output, and return the output of the KP2 on channel 1 or 2 of your Xone.

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Oct-10-2003 19:34:

anyone remember the Alesis Air FX? (I think thats what it was called)

my friend had one of those...it was nuts ...very fun to play with..made for some great filters

Posted by KristineClub on Oct-23-2003 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
Best with the Xone:62 is to use the aux output, and return the output of the KP2 on channel 1 or 2 of your Xone.

Then what output would you use to run into your amp?

Posted by uxud on Oct-23-2003 06:08:

http://www.allen-heath.com/AHImages...ctors_hires.htm
Oh my god, it doesn't have an FX loop? That is harsh!
I wanted one of those babies for so long, but without an FX loop I've changed my mind!

Posted by Dj Thy on Oct-23-2003 10:14:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
Then what output would you use to run into your amp?

Why the master output of the Xone of course. You could also run the KP2 between the Xone output and the amp (in direct mode) but that's less flexible (you only can apply effects on the master output). If you feed the KP2 from the Aux send, and return it to a channel, you can do more than that (just open the aux of the channel you want an effect on), effect apart channels, the whole master output, or even give only effect (without even hearing the source track)...

And uxud, I know it seems weird not to have an FX loop (my first mixer had one, cool). Then when I got my Xone I had to get used to the "regular" aux system for dj'ing.
You see, the Xone uses the much used studio method. You have an aux send (even switchable post or pre), and you return the wet signal on a free channel (and channel 1 and 2 are perfect for that). It needs some time to get used to it, but it's way more flexible than an FX loop.

Posted by KristineClub on Oct-23-2003 15:54:

I guess I'm confused. I'm looking at a picture of the connectors on the Allen-Heath website. It looks like the Aux out is the master out. Do you use the Midi outputs as your master?

Posted by Dj Thy on Oct-23-2003 18:37:

Howwww, hold on, MIDI doesn't carry any audio signal...

No, the Xone:62 has a stereo aux output (on TRS jacks), this goes to the line in of the KP2 (on RCA connectors). You'll need convertor cables for that. The output of the KP2 (line out on RCA connectors) goes to an input of the Xone (I recommend either channel 1 or 2 as those aren't considered music channels like the 4 others), on TRS inputs or RCA inputs, depending on the channel you return to (ch 1&2 have TRS line ins, the others RCA). The XLR master output of the Xone goes to your amp...

Posted by ezbeats on Oct-23-2003 19:35:

i have the kp2, though it is fun and versatile in many ways, i personally havent found a whole lot of use for it in live mixing, as i am still slowly producing, i havent used it in producing yet. i think a lot of the effects (not all of them) sound a little cheesed out, ya know? but its the only effects pad ive used yet, so im no expert. i wish i had tested more out before purchasing it though, but thats hard to do unless you know people that are already have the equipment to use. heh, good luck.