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Posted by CandyRaver666 on Oct-09-2003 10:20:

Arrow Inbetween the mix (what to do ?)

Lets say you can beat mix in 30 secs, andlets say you mix melodic trance only.

What's there to do inbetween the mix ?

I find myself pretending to look busy

I use the example of melodic trance because this doesn't lean itself to cutting/scratching etc.

What suggestions can you give me to improve my set ?


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-09-2003 10:30:

-drink beer
-make sly glances at the opposite sex
-use bathroom
-smoke cigarette
-have sex (as demonstrated by DJ tiesto)
-play with the buttons on the turntable or cd player so it looks like you are doing something technical


Posted by TiksA on Oct-09-2003 10:39:

Hahaha top class answer. Btw did Tiesto have sex while one of his tracks was playing?


Posted by bent on Oct-09-2003 10:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Nuclear
-drink beer
-make sly glances at the opposite sex
-use bathroom
-smoke cigarette
-have sex (as demonstrated by DJ tiesto)
-play with the buttons on the turntable or cd player so it looks like you are doing something technical


Waaaaat? Details please


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-09-2003 11:13:

Yeah. He talked about it in an interview with Rolling Stone. He said he was kinda trashed at this one party and was DJing, and this girl came up and wanted sex...he said he got up from it to mix between tracks, then went back to it.

He says he keep his sex and DJing seperate, now, though.


Posted by rxt on Oct-09-2003 11:18:

haha yeah, those are good answers... but if you wanna be a good dj:

choose the next track you wanna mix in, maybe even start to plan out the next couple tracks.

play with the eq... esp if you are mixing trance, play with the mid/high levels during a build up

talk to the crowd... although this has nothing to do with djing it might be helpful... shows you 'care' and they might have some track requests


Posted by Freak on Oct-09-2003 13:00:

I put on delerium silence if i need to pee - full length version.

between tracks i generally talk to people, dance about, have a drink, talk to women or the light jock or my friends with me.
Sometimes ill be hunting for a tune or CD- but generally i know where it is and can cue it and find it pretty fast- i normally cue it before i chat or whatever.


Posted by Martin McG on Oct-09-2003 13:13:

i get bored

mix in my next tune early

and end up with a set of about 20 songs on 70min cd

i hate having nothing to do whilst mixing


Posted by brian on Oct-09-2003 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
i get bored

mix in my next tune early

and end up with a set of about 20 songs on 70min cd

i hate having nothing to do whilst mixing


Ditto I think it also makes for a better set not playing seven or eight minutes of a song...that gets old real fast.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Oct-09-2003 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by brian
Ditto I think it also makes for a better set not playing seven or eight minutes of a song...that gets old real fast.


That depends on what style you are spinning in my opinion. If I'm playing trance tunes that I love, there's no way I would want to mix out of them early because I'm bored... I like to play good tracks as a whole, anything else would be wrong.


Posted by sektile on Oct-09-2003 17:00:

get a third turntable and use a acapella :P

im full-time when i mix cause im always hammering the effects on my djm.. but even if you dont have a effects unit of some sort, you can still use EQ's to make shit interesting.


Posted by JayKuE on Oct-09-2003 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
That depends on what style you are spinning in my opinion. If I'm playing trance tunes that I love, there's no way I would want to mix out of them early because I'm bored... I like to play good tracks as a whole, anything else would be wrong.


disagree.
two break downs gets tedious.
espesh for a crowd i think, too much hands in the air, "spirit fingers" for their liking. they'll get bored.
mix in after the first breakdown.


Posted by chesco on Oct-09-2003 17:39:

I would love to have a mix with three t/tables.

What i do is line the next track up straight away then mix from breakdowns into breakdows, but i play techno which is better for quick mixes than trance.


Posted by razzi on Oct-09-2003 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
i get bored

mix in my next tune early

and end up with a set of about 20 songs on 70min cd

i hate having nothing to do whilst mixing



amen to that. my setup makes me stare right at my wall, so i do stuff online, read some stuff or other things during a mix hehe. this definitely does cause me to mix too early, cut out the second break down. lately ive learned to add beats from one track onto the breakdown/tune on another track, so that the beat never really stops. this is kind of hard and requires fast ass beatmatching, but its fun. i do this in clubs now too, i recommed you try it. practice with a track with a loooooong constant bass (i used cosmic gate - fire wire (club mix)) i would play the bass/kick over other tracks when it was cut out for singing etc etc. fun stuff, and blocks boredom.. some at least.


Posted by Scottaculous on Oct-09-2003 18:51:

There are so many things you can do. To list a few.

w/o effects machine:
0. READ THE CROWD
1. Volume dips
2. Bass dips and other EQ dips
3. Teasing with a sample from upcoming track
4. Cuts - yes you can cut with the less melodic trance tracks
5. Beat-swapping
6. If you have two of the same record: double-buildup.
7. If you're doing progressive, 3 records at once.
8. Mashups
9. Don't let tracks play until the end. (Sometimes breakdowns can disrupt a groove)


with effects machine:
too much to list

FYI, any decent bedroom dj can string two tracks together and call it djing. That should be the bare minimum. What you do on top of that is where your style and creativity comes in.


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-09-2003 21:55:

I always thought the second breakdowns were stuck in there to save you if you fuck up anyway.


Posted by Scottaculous on Oct-09-2003 22:36:

There's a difference between 2nd breakdown and 2nd buildup. A buildup is usually found in a breakdown but it's not the entire breakdown because the entire breakdown can be boring.


Posted by mikefasssy on Oct-09-2003 23:31:

Well since I don't play at clubs, if its a long track, I might;

diddle around on my computer (chat or whatever)
get some food
sit down, and just look at what tunes I want to bring in
tell my siblings to stfu

yea, it can get pretty boring sometimes though


Posted by farley on Oct-10-2003 03:15:

Drink
Listen to the current track
Plan a few ahead
Look at the ladies
That's all you can do, right?


Posted by dknylady on Oct-10-2003 03:31:

well i spin hard trance so i don't really have the problem of a looong ass track, hard trance has a lot more stuff happening than melodic..i tend to like mixing out after the second break, or even the first, if it took a good while to get there. i don't really measure by breaks, i measure by: has the song gotten to the good part? and i'm not mixing into a climax or breakdown. (which never happens cuz i can just read the grooves)

stuff i like to do though, is sample the next record. what i found is that on many of my records that have a vocal samle, they will put the vocal only on the very first seconds of the record. i like to use that to sample into the next record.

also, mess w/ the bass eqs.


Posted by DannyO on Oct-10-2003 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by dknylady
stuff i like to do though, is sample the next record. what i found is that on many of my records that have a vocal samle, they will put the vocal only on the very first seconds of the record. i like to use that to sample into the next record.

also, mess w/ the bass eqs.


Thats what I love to do, I've done it afew times infront of a crowd, and they start goin nuts, and you see some punters that start goin at it cos they think you just mixed it in, when really it ain't gonna be mixed in for like 4 minutes, so for some of those punters, by the time you do mix it in, there low on energy and finding it hard to keep going.


Posted by _-MIl0 on Oct-10-2003 17:33:

[COLOR=silver]their are many things you can do
-smoke (cigs or weed
-drink
-check out the femailes
-check out the males ( if you swing that wa)
-watch how the croud reacts to the song
- make out with a chick (iv done this aobut 20% of the time im mixing its some good fun but the hard part is getting em to go away
-talk to a freind ( i actualy have a freind i bring along just so i can do this
-play around on my cell phone
-get numbers from chicks
-take your shirt of (as shown bt bt)
enjoy/COLOR]


Posted by DJTranceworld on Oct-11-2003 23:00:

Hi

When not mixing, I am usually using either my sampler or using my fx's on my mixer. If not either of those i'll be doing loads of scratching, or i'll be having a go at doing sampling, plus fx's & a little bit of scratching at the same time, but this requires a hell of alot of speed. Also i blend alot of tracks together for like 5-7 mins, depending on track lengths. I drop accapellas. I basically just do what I want & try out new ideas & just do what comes to mind. If it doesnt work, it doesnt work.

Theres shit loads of stuff you can do. All you have to do is be a little imaginative. Combine stuff, come up with new stuff. Theres no rules & regualtions that say dj like this, or like that.

So just do what you want and have a good time, but dont over do it. Sometimes: Less Is More.


Posted by Vert on Oct-12-2003 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJTranceworld
Hi

When not mixing, I am usually using either my sampler or using my fx's on my mixer. If not either of those i'll be doing loads of scratching, or i'll be having a go at doing sampling, plus fx's & a little bit of scratching at the same time, but this requires a hell of alot of speed. Also i blend alot of tracks together for like 5-7 mins, depending on track lengths. I drop accapellas. I basically just do what I want & try out new ideas & just do what comes to mind. If it doesnt work, it doesnt work.

Theres shit loads of stuff you can do. All you have to do is be a little imaginative. Combine stuff, come up with new stuff. Theres no rules & regualtions that say dj like this, or like that.

So just do what you want and have a good time, but dont over do it. Sometimes: Less Is More.


I'd like to hear one of your mixes ..

es


Posted by Jellow on Oct-12-2003 08:48:

Usually I just cue up the record �fter the one I just cued
So all the beatmatching stuff or atleast putting the vinyl on the deck.
(BTW,I have 2 turntables and 2 cdrs)

Also I do EQ tricks,fader tricks,and I scratch a vocal or something once in a while.Or I just go and dance


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