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Posted by VaNFeCto on Oct-19-2003 19:29:

Need Some Serious Advice!

Ok guys this thread is similar to the guy asking whether or not he should go to the club by him self, its similar but different. Ok heres the deal, Tiesto is coming to my city for the first time ever, hes kicking off Spundae here in Houston. Now I love Tiesto never seen him live, this oculd be a once in a lifetime oppurtunity, but heres the catch. Hes playing at a gay club. Now please do not get me confused, Im not homophobic, Ive even had gay friends, but I am very very religious. I mean really thats what it boils down to really religion I guess. I just dont know if I feel comfortable goin somewhere like that. On another note if I back out my friends are gonna hate me. Right now I really dont know what to do, just look for some opinions and other views. ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT A HOMOPHOBE, AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GAY PEEPS!


Posted by StalkerElmo on Oct-19-2003 19:36:

If you're for the music, just do it.

People in a club shouldn't affect the night.. well I sure HOPE not.

But if that's the case, and it's the first time Tiesto ever went to your city, go for it. People shouldn't stop you from seeing a fantatistic DJ, because you never know. You might not ever see him again in your city. Have no regrets, and expect nothing but Trance.


Posted by dancingpixie on Oct-19-2003 19:41:

GO FOR IT SWEETIE!!! ITS TIESTO FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
when is this gonna be by the way??? cause im in SA and i would LOVE to see Tiesto!


Posted by USMC_Greg on Oct-19-2003 19:43:

Isn't the purpose of going to a Tiesto event simply to see/hear Tiesto?

I mean, I obviously check out the girls when I'm at an event like this [non-gay ones tho]. But I'm primarily there for the music. I don't see it as a pick up spot.
I can't vouch for the gay people, but you'd think it would be the same deal? Just going there for the music.


Posted by Ibiza Dreams on Oct-19-2003 19:47:

Smiley DJ

Dude, this is a gay club but I can assure you that most of the people showing up will not be gay, it's Tiesto we're talking about, his crowd is not homosexual (for the most part). I'm going with a couple of buddies and last time I checked i was straight. Cya there!


Posted by VaNFeCto on Oct-19-2003 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by USMC_Greg
Isn't the purpose of going to a Tiesto event simply to see/hear Tiesto?

I mean, I obviously check out the girls when I'm at an event like this [non-gay ones tho]. But I'm primarily there for the music. I don't see it as a pick up spot.
I can't vouch for the gay people, but you'd think it would be the same deal? Just going there for the music.


No no thats not the issue man, the issue is that in my religion its basically like if u hang with drug dealers u might as well be one. It has nothing to do with my sexuality, Im confident around gay people got no problem with them in the least bit, i guess Im looking at it from a religious point.


Posted by djSlain on Oct-19-2003 19:50:

i would think that there is a crop of people just like u pondering about whether to go to not. Ultimately, they are gonna decide to because IT'S TIESTO for god's sake. have a good time tho! enjoy the music and u might find a cliq of friends to go with next time


Posted by VaNFeCto on Oct-19-2003 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dancingpixie
GO FOR IT SWEETIE!!! ITS TIESTO FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
when is this gonna be by the way??? cause im in SA and i would LOVE to see Tiesto!


Its on the 24th of October @ Richs on San Jacinto in houston.


Posted by USMC_Greg on Oct-19-2003 20:12:

IMO any religion that doesn't accept the fact that there are people that deviate from the norm, is no religion at all. It's not the gay person's fault he's gay.

The whole purpose of religion is to have people live in harmony. But rather than bringing people together, religion is dividing people apart.

If God exists and if he's almighty, then he can forgive me when I die. Otherwise he is not worthy of being God.
If God was so concerned with who I hang out with, he wouldn't have created homosexuals in the first place.

IMO life is too short to be governed by something that probably doesn't exist. Live life the way you want to live it, 'cuz you only live once.

Religion is over-rated.


Posted by squirrelly on Oct-19-2003 20:33:

Smiley DJ

You're an idiot if you don't go. As stated previously... I highly doubt, that the whole crowd is going to be homosexual....

ITS TIESTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go! At once! And enjoy for me, since I am so far away from the show!


Posted by Stories on Oct-19-2003 20:38:

Re: Need Some Serious Advice!

quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto
On another note if I back out my friends are gonna hate me. Right now I really dont know what to do, just look for some opinions and other views. ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT A HOMOPHOBE, AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GAY PEEPS!


Are your friends gay? If not, then you'll be surrounded by straight people. Just because you go to a club to hear music doesn't mean you are going to engage in any homosexual activity. Just because a club sponsors gay nights doesn't mean that straight people aren't supposed to be there by any means... I mean, Avalon Boston hosts a specific gay night on Sundays... just go to have fun! If you're actually THAT uncomfortable, you probably wouldn't have asked for an outsider's point of view. But then again, if you really don't feel comfortable with it, then don't go.


Posted by dancingpixie on Oct-20-2003 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by USMC_Greg
IMO any religion that doesn't accept the fact that there are people that deviate from the norm, is no religion at all. It's not the gay person's fault he's gay.

The whole purpose of religion is to have people live in harmony. But rather than bringing people together, religion is dividing people apart.

If God exists and if he's almighty, then he can forgive me when I die. Otherwise he is not worthy of being God.
If God was so concerned with who I hang out with, he wouldn't have created homosexuals in the first place.

IMO life is too short to be governed by something that probably doesn't exist. Live life the way you want to live it, 'cuz you only live once.

Religion is over-rated.


i totally agree with you!....you took the words right out of my mouth


Posted by Endo on Oct-20-2003 02:33:

I'm personally against drugs and alcohol (not due to religion) but I still go to all major events in my city. One way I look at it is that sometimes cigarette companies sponsor the nights. This in turn lowers the ticket price. Now if you go and enjoy your night and don't purchase any cigarette apparel (or cigarettes or whatever) then you are in turn not supporting the cigarette companies as they do not make that much (or sometimes any) money off your ticket price. I think anyways...

But yeah for sure go, think of it as a place where gays and straights are both allowed to have a good time.


Posted by tranceDJ on Oct-20-2003 03:17:

I've heard that there's usually straight girls there as well...you pretty much have no competition in picking them up. Plus they might think that you're comfortable with your sexuality enough to go there for a show.


Posted by victor on Oct-20-2003 04:15:

i dont think there's one person here that will tell you Not to go....

so ....

go ....

and ....

enjoy!!!!!!!


Posted by Emerald on Oct-20-2003 04:59:

quote:
Are your friends gay? If not, then you'll be surrounded by straight people.


Amen. I am VaNFecto's friend and I am certainly straight, and nothing will stop me from seeing Tiesto.. Im swamped with exams and the fact that this club is a gay club doesn't bother me a bit, cause I know i wanna just have fun and hear Tiesto play. I've already missed him twice and it aint gonna happen again.

KEN stop being stupid. You had better be going with us or you will never hear the end of it from me or Alan. Stick your religious beliefs in a sack for one night and stop worrying. Bleh... I'll talk to you in person


Posted by djshan on Oct-20-2003 05:43:

hmmm, btw wat is ur religion? i mean in my religion im not suppose to talk to girls unless their related to me, otherwise i would be killed by their big brothers. also i have to have an arranged marriage, which obviuosly isnt gonna happen if im in canada. so yeh i mean like why do you care if your religon prohibits you from doing what you want. not being allowed to go to a gay club is like saying ur not allowed to go see tiesto. like wtf is that? u know. hope u have a great time and dont worry if u go with someone or by urself, its tiesto after all, so have fun.

p.s. when is tiesto coming to toronto?


Posted by UWM on Oct-20-2003 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto
No no thats not the issue man, the issue is that in my religion its basically like if u hang with drug dealers u might as well be one. It has nothing to do with my sexuality, Im confident around gay people got no problem with them in the least bit, i guess Im looking at it from a religious point.


No offense but WTF kind of religion is this?

So does these mean that if you hang around with women you might as well be one?

Does it say you cannot hang around homosexuals or else you become one?


Ignorance abound ...


Posted by Beat_Chemist on Oct-20-2003 06:16:

Ok I'm gunna Guess your Southern Baptist? Coming from Dallas myself I know what its like, you do live in the bible belt afterall.

Look I'm christian myself, the thing is the bible doesn't say you can't hang out with homosexual men or lesbians. Infact the bible teaches us tolerence towards individuals. I have heard of a passage in there something about how its a sin for men to sleep together like a man and a woman. Dunno where that is, but I dont' think its a sin, I strongly beleive homosexuals can enter the kingdom of heaven.

Can you picture Jesus, all knowing, and one of the most peaceful people, ex. he let people nail him even tho he knew about it in advance. Do you honestly think if he saw a gay man he'd be like, he he, ****** ur gunna burn in hell, go fuck urself.
No.... I don't think so... So if you dont' feel comfortable GO!!!

You obviously have trouble addressing gay individuals as a majority, fact is your gunna run into more of them in life. Sure they are ez to deal with when is just you and your 1 friend. But u seem to be anxt. about a group of them, Where you'd feel out of place, the minority.

Face your fear, you'll find its not bad, if they hit on you which I doubt, you should feel flattered. Men are way more open about expression than women, you can guage where u stand, u hot or not? Great confidence booster, also gay poeple are a totally diff. paradigm somthing new, something ur not used to might be fun. Girls were scary till you found out they were fun right? Djing in front of a crowds scary till u get up there right?

If your really that fucking afraid, you might wanna ask urself why. Is it, I don't feel comofortable being looked upon as a piece of ass? I haven't ever fully made sure I was straight so I might find out I'm gay, bi kinda thing? Either way if you wanna avoid gay men hitting on you dress straight.

Don't trim your nails prior,
Go irish, don't shower, spritz on cologn and some deoderant
Wear baggy pants that hide ur figure,
Wear something hetero like a beer shirt, frat shirt, what have u

MOST IMPORTANT HAVE a GREAT FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Sgus on Oct-20-2003 10:15:

close your eyes....feel the music and stop wondering about who is standing next to you


Posted by Sgus on Oct-20-2003 10:17:

Idea

but i have to confess that i would'n go


Posted by nate735 on Oct-20-2003 15:19:

I wouldnt go, i could never enjoy the music when you have all those gay guys around you. I would just be to nervous that some dude would try an pick me up.


Posted by bond007 on Oct-20-2003 15:35:

definately goo for it dude..

btw..what religion do u follow...which doesnt alow that...


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-20-2003 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat_Chemist

Can you picture Jesus, all knowing, and one of the most peaceful people, ex. he let people nail him even tho he knew about it in advance. Do you honestly think if he saw a gay man he'd be like, he he, ****** ur gunna burn in hell, go fuck urself.




dude this made my day , funniest shit i ever read


Posted by dj adagnitio on Oct-20-2003 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto
No no thats not the issue man, the issue is that in my religion its basically like if u hang with drug dealers u might as well be one. It has nothing to do with my sexuality, Im confident around gay people got no problem with them in the least bit, i guess Im looking at it from a religious point.


I would honestly like you to show me any religious document that says that? I dont tihnk anything of that sort is listed anywhere int he bible/torah/book of the dead/etc.

quote:
Originally posted by nate735
I wouldnt go, i could never enjoy the music when you have all those gay guys around you. I would just be to nervous that some dude would try an pick me up.


And this simply makes me sick.


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