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Posted by TwoPlow on Oct-20-2003 03:25:

So I took your advice...

So, it's gotten beyond the initial "OMG I DIE!!!11 I WANT TO LIEK, BE A DJ FUR REALZ!" stage that most people hit. I've gotten 400+ dollars that I will soon be spending on a Stanton ST-100 and either a Behringer VMX-200, or the VMX-300. I still need to decide on that. Any input on those decisions is still welcome.

My main question, is whether I should order from something like DJmart, or whether I should just get the stuff on eBay. I've been thinking a store sort of place, just because I have a better idea of what I'm getting.

To go farther, what store would you suggest I order from, if I go that route?

Danke.

Edit: Check down on thread.


Posted by djdawn on Oct-20-2003 04:25:

don't want to put you down or anything, but 400$ won't make you a DJ. It's possible to buy some cheap equipment and learn to mix, but where is your vinyl collection? Most people underestimate the cost of regularily buying records.
How much does your average import-vinyl cost in the US? 8$? 10$?
Now I wouldn't even THINK of spinning anywhere before you have 150 vinyls. If you ever get so far that you can play every week or even twice a month, you'll need at least another 10 new records per month, 20 to be more realistic. so that's another 2500$ per year.
Are you really up for that?
Just trying to make you see what it will be like after you got your tables. I have collected over 2500 vinyls in 10 years and don't want to miss any of them, but I feel pretty bad when thinking about all the money that went there...


Posted by TwoPlow on Oct-20-2003 04:38:

If I put forth the feel that I think I'm going to spend this money and suddenly be a master of the vinyl overnight, thats not what I mean. With this much money, I'm not even expecting to get two turntables. I've priced stuff and I know how expensive of a hoppy it is. And I don't trule expect it to ever get beyond being a hobby. I'm hoping to get one deck and the mixer with the money I have. I have some shitty headphones that I can make do with for a while. I can afford enough vinyl to learn on. Most decks come with slipmats, so thats covered, and if they don't they aren't too expensive. Maybe the other deck for Christmas.

Thanks for the input though. I'd probably disillusion myself if no one told me its not going to happen.


Posted by dknylady on Oct-20-2003 04:52:

i'd just like to add that i hope you realize you can't do anything with only one deck, besides simply play the songs one by one.

also i dont' believe anyone is truly a dj until they can beatmatch and mix, which takes months of hard work! no amount of money can train your ears to beatmatch, only months of practice...


Posted by DJ Kibon on Oct-20-2003 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by dknylady
i'd just like to add that i hope you realize you can't do anything with only one deck, besides simply play the songs one by one.

also i dont' believe anyone is truly a dj until they can beatmatch and mix, which takes months of hard work! no amount of money can train your ears to beatmatch, only months of practice...


All those Top 40 club "DJs" just cried out in pain.


Posted by Psygnosis on Oct-20-2003 10:14:

I bought some Direct Drive Stantons, it came in a package with 2 Stanton TTs, 1 Stanton Mixer and headies...for $900 AUS which is about $400 US....

They haven't screwed up on me yet..


Posted by razzi on Oct-20-2003 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
I bought some Direct Drive Stantons, it came in a package with 2 Stanton TTs, 1 Stanton Mixer and headies...for $900 AUS which is about $400 US....

They haven't screwed up on me yet..



same, works pretty well. i am a stanton fan. check out the new titanium pak or platinum pak 2, good deals for good decks. (the sk6f isnt too amazing though, but you can upgrade later)


Posted by sykadelik on Oct-20-2003 10:49:

Save up and buy some mk2's, you will not regret it.


Posted by TwiloThunder on Oct-20-2003 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Kibon
All those Top 40 club "DJs" just cried out in pain.


lol... song comes to an end, 'DJ' just slams the fader across.

I've been dragged into a few "top 40's" clubs and it always cracks me up when you hear/see the transitions. It's almost criminal how bad they really are and they get paid for it . What's worse is many of them actually consider themselves proper dj's.

Anyone can press play on a cd player and slide a fader across at the end of each song.


Posted by TwoPlow on Oct-20-2003 13:27:

Alright, after reading all your advice and so forth, I've been thinking that instead of the ST-100, I might just go with a pair of STR8-30B's. They still seem like pretty solid decks, and still look almost as pretty, for half the cost. That would allow me to get the second table, and the mixer.


Posted by SgtFoo on Oct-20-2003 15:05:

seriously man, if you wanna be serious... get a pair of technics or even the vestax pdx line of TTs. if you're gonna be mixing and not scratching, I'd personally advise to get dex with S-shaped arms, not straights. you need lots of torque and very good pitch-accuracy to do things easily and properly.

I have 2 technics 1210M5G and they are amazing. I brought my buddy over and he brought his stanton str8-50 (yes i know it's an old model, but it's all he could get for the time being), which had no torque and was belt-driven. I couldn't stand the lack of torque while cueing up a record, and the wavering pitch was even more annoying. the difference between even a middle-class-quality TT and a high-class-quality TT is like night and day.


Posted by Vlad on Oct-20-2003 18:20:

Do what I did, you cant go wrong:

I saved for a pair of Technics SL-1210 mkII's and bought them on ebay - the pair cost me $560.


Posted by TwoPlow on Oct-22-2003 03:05:

Just edited and reposted. Didn't feel like spamming it up with a new thread.

I took yous guys advice, and checked out eBay. I won a Technics SL-1200 Mk2 for about $300 USD. Not bad at all. Problem is, it does not come with Cartridge or dust cover. Yeah, I know, thats lame, but technics on eBay are gone really fast. Buyitnow is a wonderful thing when people don't notice and bid over. Anyway, suggestions for cartridge/what do do about dust cover?


Posted by djdawn on Oct-22-2003 04:26:

congratulations! you will never know how good the technics really is if you haven't used a shitty belt-drive before

I use Ortofon Concorde Nightclub E as cartridges, but they are pretty pricy. You can get the same cartridge with the "DJ" needle instead or listen to someone else, cartridges are not my specialty.

about the dust-cover, you can have mine ! I've never used it in 8 years...just clean the damn thing once a week


Posted by Flash Bastard on Oct-22-2003 17:04:

indeed better save the 400 for your vinyl collection buy some descent cheap ass table's .. and maybe you will upgrade to technics and be that master dj you always want to be :d


Posted by Dhagor on Oct-22-2003 17:24:

Save up and get MK2's new/used whateva... I did and wont regret it...


Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-22-2003 18:15:

Hey!

Ditch the Behringer mixers and go for either the Numark PPD-01, Stanton SMX-401, or the Vestax PVC-275 mixers.

You should order from Pro Sound and Stage Lighting or Musician's Friend or Turntable Lab.

I don't recommend this site: 123DJ

Enjoy!


Posted by `pr0digy on Oct-22-2003 19:34:

Hm, I finally looked at the Vestax pcv 275... It's twice the price of the Behringer... I know sometimes it's better to save up for the more expensive stuff, but with mixers I don't always think that's the case. IMHO if someone is thinking about buying a "budget" mixer, suggesting something twice as expensive isn't always the most productive thing.


Posted by _-MIl0 on Oct-23-2003 17:37:

i did it slightly different, i knew how much vinil was gonna cost so i wouldent be able to get much right after buying my vinil decks so it would be pointless, so i went out and bought me some cd decks ( american audio psx's) since i allready have a large cd colection, this was cheaper then getting the vinil decks so i started buying the vinil and practiced mixing on the cd decks, i bought a tt-200 by numark and started mixing vinil on that now im upgradeing to the numark ttx1 (i prefer numark over tecs) along with my cd decks soon ill have enought money to buy another, (pls i had to buy a new mixer am getting it at christmas) n e ways end of storry i now dj in clubs and partys and get payed for it have a fairly large vinil collection and know how to mix on cd's and vinil. not bad. n e ways was just woundering what mixer dj dawn has...


Posted by djdawn on Oct-23-2003 18:13:

i have a pretty unknown KME DJ-M1

here's a pic. I know people will start laughing at the way this is set up again, but I don't care!



it's all I need on less than 1 m�

I had it set up on a wide table when I was mixing more often and had more space in my last flat...


Posted by VIO on Oct-23-2003 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn
i have a pretty unknown KME DJ-M1

here's a pic. I know people will start laughing at the way this is set up again, but I don't care!



it's all I need on less than 1 m�

I had it set up on a wide table when I was mixing more often and had more space in my last flat...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......

i'm just kidding. that's actually kind of a cool set up. as long as you're not a turntablist then it really doesn't matter how your stuff is set up as long as it's all within reach.



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