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Giant Trout or "slightly warm" Cattle Prod: who wins???
2 people are doing battle on a bridge, the loser is knocked into the manky waters of Amsterdam. Who wins???? Mind you the cattle prod is not heated
*disclaimer* to make it fair, the cattle prod is slightly warmed 
discuss......
im gonna go with the giant trout.. you can get more force in the swing of a trout that you can in a cattle prod.
ian... wtf?
i'd say the cattle prod... u need less force to swing it round... multiple blows etc 
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| Originally posted by LoCa i'd say the cattle prod... u need less force to swing it round... multiple blows etc |
Cattle prod has to be heated of course, if not then the trout will emerge victorious cos of its massive striking power. However, a skilled prodder might be able to win by dodging the rather slow and heavy trout and prodding quickly and effectively.
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| Originally posted by goldenarmZ thats true.. but the weight of the giant trout means that once you get it moving, it's gonna be pretty fatal. |
Cattle Prod easily. Depending on how wide the bridge is, the momentum of the fish itself will probably carry the person who wields it off the bridge after a miss. Plus, you could stab the guy 2-3 times in the gut before he even gets the fish swinging.
I mean really, how hard would it be to dodge a fish attack? 
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| Originally posted by Omegasox Cattle Prod easily. Depending on how wide the bridge is, the momentum of the fish itself will probably carry the person who wields it off the bridge after a miss. Plus, you could stab the guy 2-3 times in the gut before he even gets the fish swinging. I mean really, how hard would it be to dodge a fish attack? |
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| Originally posted by Redeye the trout being a river fish needs to be aerodynamic to flow smoothly through swift currents, so tehcnically its not wide and therefore can be maneuvered quite easily |
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| Originally posted by Omegasox Ah so not as giant as I'm picturing. I'd still go with the prod. |
trout
what happens if you want both of them dead and don't care who wins.
TROUT ! !
Trout to the nuts = Big win.
Plus, the guy with the cattle prod, has a hot wife, and by default she's yours after you win, and she's got big tits, and she's gonna fry up some tasty trout for your victory dinner.
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| Originally posted by Omegasox Ah so not as giant as I'm picturing. I'd still go with the prod. |
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| Originally posted by LoCa i was thinking gigantic trout... but i'll stick with the prod too |
the trout may slip or even worse be dropped because of its slippiness
Well, seeing that you stated "No animals were harmed in the posting of this poll" one can assume that the trout is still alive. If the guy with the trout is knocked off then the trout is going to land in the water and still be alive although the guy may die. Thus, trout wins. 
i dont know wtf u mean with all this stuff so i just eeenee meenee miny moed it !! lol FEKIN WEIRDO REDEYE :P
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| Originally posted by Luke Terry the trout may slip or even worse be dropped because of its slippiness |
Nothing beats Trout. In fact, trout beats you.
/me slaps Redeye around a bit with a large trout
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| Originally posted by Scottaculous Nothing beats Trout. In fact, trout beats you. /me slaps Redeye around a bit with a large trout |
i thought we should just consider the saftey aspects for a moment
unfortunately its not easy to find cattle prod saftey guides
here is some unusefull trout 'saftey guidelines'
Salmon and Trout Safety Studies:
Target animal safety and tolerance studies were performed with SLICE� on two salmonid species: Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) and rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss). A summary of the results for these two studies is presented below.
Salmon Safety Studies
This study measured the tolerance of Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) to an orally administered, SLICE�-medicated feed. The treatment groups were fed a SLICE�-medicated diet at nominal dose rates of 0, 100, 250 and 500�g/kg/day respectively for 7 consecutive days.
Results of Atlantic Salmon Tolerance Study (Seawater)
Daily Rates*
(�g/kg/day for 7
consecutive days)
Multiple of
target dose
(based on 50�g/kg/day
Lethargy Incoordination Dark Color Inappetence
0 0x 0/40 1/40 1/40 0/40
70 1.4x 0/40 1/40 1/40 0/40
173 3.5x 0/40 0/40 1/40 0/40
356 7.1x Majority/40 2/40 36/45 31/40
*actual dose rates were calculated based on the measured feed consumption and analysis of feed for emamectin benzoate concentration
Results from this salmon safety study showed that SLICE�-medicated feed, when administered at actual dose rates (based on feed analysis) of up to 3.5x the recommended label dose rate of 50 �g/kg/day, is safe for salmon.
Results of Atlantic Salmon Tolerance Study (freshwater)
Signs of intoxication were observed only at 5.4X the recommended dose rate (see Table below) and included incoordination and dark color. No mortality attributable to treatment was observed. No pathognomonic signs were observed during gross necropsy or histopathological examination. Results of this study show that SLICE� administered at actual dose rates of 1.1X the label dose rate (50 �g/kg/day) had no detectable adverse effects on Atlantic salmon treated in freshwater. Further, these results indicate that dose rates of 5.4X the label dose rate had relatively minor adverse effects on Atlantic salmon treated in freshwater and starved for 3 days prior to transfer to seawater. Fish in all treatment groups consumed > 96% of the feed offered and fish that received 5.4X the label dose rate of emamectin benzoate consumed > 99% of feed offered, therefore, feed containing emamectin benzoate at concentrations up to 101 mg/kg was palatable.
Frequency of signs and symptoms of toxicity in Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) due to consumption of emamectin benzoate administered in feed at 0, 54, and 272 �g/kg/day for 7 consecutive days. Treatments were administered on Study Days 0 - 6 in freshwater and the observations herein were made on Study Day 23 after 14 days in seawater.
Daily Rates*
(�g/kg/day for 7
consecutive days)
Multiple of
target dose
(based on 50�g/kg/day
Lethargy Incoordination Dark Color Inappetence
0 0x 0/100 1/100 1/100 0/100
70 1.0x 0/100 1/100 1/100 0/100
173 5.4x 0/100 0/100 1/100 0/100
Trout Safety Study
A study involving rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) was conducted to determine their dietary tolerance to emamectin benzoate. SLICE�-medicated feeding regimes: (nominal dose rates) 0, 100, 250 and 500 �g/kg/day for 7 consecutive days. The dose rates of this medicated daily diet represented multiples of 2x, 5x and 10x respectively, of the recommended therapeutic dose rate of 50 �g/kg/day. The results of this study showed that the SLICE�-medicated diet was safe for trout even when fed at dosage rates of up to 4.4x the prescribed label dose rate.
Results of Rainbow Trout Tolerance Study
Daily Rates*
(�g/kg/day for 7
consecutive days)
Multiple of target dose
(based on 50�g/kg/day
Observed Results
0
0x
No Adverse Reaction
88
1.8x
No Adverse Reaction
218
4.4x
No Adverse Reaction
413
8.3x
Progressive signs of toxicity--lethargy, dark coloration, inappetence, loss of coordination
*actual dose rates were calculated based on the measured feed consumption and analysis of feed for emamectin benzoate concentration
No pathognomonic signs of emamectin benzoate toxicity were identified during gross necropsy or histopathological examination. No treatment-related mortality at 7-8x the dose rate was observed.
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