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politics in the scene

i read a thread recently in the canadian forum which concerned politics between djs. to cut a long story short. there are 2 djs, more "network" friends than genuine friends. we will call them bill and bob. a while back bob organised an event and gave bill a chance to play. as of late however, bill has managed to get together a successful night. bob has been wanting to play at this event, at constantly reminds bill of the favor he gave. bob hands in a demo. bill thinks bob needs to improve, telling him he will get his chance. bob takes it the wrong way beliving he was given empty promises and starts backstabbing etc. etc.

the topic is scattered all over this thread is you're interested

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&pagenumber=22

so i'm curious. do a lot of politics occur in our local scene? are djs competitive? or supportive of one another? is it a bitchy industry? is it really all about "networking"? i'm a little bit phased by this as befriending ppl with an ulterior motive kinda sickens me, but is that what you have to do? yesterday i was chit-chatting for a while with a manager of a club near swinburne uni [casey's] and he was giving me the full run down of politics, also occurin in clubs between managers n promoters, managers n djs and even promoters n djs.

i'd like to hear any stories ppl have encountered of the sort. guess its a direction i'd like to ideally head towards within the next few years. so maybe i should prepare myself? *shrug*

this topic should so have been started when stipsy was still here.


But yeah, I think in any industry with so much $$$ up for grabs, there's going to be a fair bit of politics, backstabbing, undercutting etc. Promoting and DJing is so insanely competitive some people are prepared to do whatever it takes to thrust themselves forward. I would (and do), use contacts to try and get slots but I wouldn't slag off someone else simply to make me look better.

To me, Bob sounds a bit of a tool. Bill said Bob would get his chance so Bob got pissed off and went out and was an arsehole (because that's going to help him get a gig :/).

People need to realise that someone won't employ someone else who is a conniving backstabber as chances are they'll end up backstabbing you.

Don't be a dickhead because people have long memories. If you're trying to get a gig it's fair enough to try and use your contacts if you have them because everyone else will, but talking other people down is a big no no. It's a bit different if you're running the night. You need to be professional about it and you will want the best chance of it being successful so you wouldn't want to put a guy in the lineup that needs improvement even if he is your friend (that's my opinion). If the dude is alright you could give him the first hour when there aren't many people there to see how he goes.

Networking definitely occurs in Sydney. A couple of years ago the only dj's you could see if you were into trance would be Nik Fish, Nervous, Pee wee, Jumping Jack etc (not that I would call any of these trance but..) They were booked for every party, mainly because there were only a few promoters around at the time and they knew them and so got on the bill.

On an unrelated topic, love your sig Jaykue!!

the industry appears to have so much butt licking and kissing to get ahead and get more money that i doubt you could tell whether someone is genuine or not... not very desirable tho

there's polimatics at the local knitting club too... it's everywhere

i cant...stop...looking at JQ's sig...

^^^ me too. Its very noice



Anywho...politics...yep everyone's a bitch and it sucks. Worst is being told you have to chose between playing 2 competing nights!!!!

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Originally posted by Solstice i cant...stop...looking at JQ's sig...

shit yer! she is Simply Delicious.

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Originally posted by Mangler there's polimatics at the local knitting club too... it's everywhere

Bingo!

--djway

"Whatever you do....if you want to be a successful DJ dont get on the internet because you will just end up saying the wrong thing about the wrong person and get into a shitfight that will end your one chance"

---I say this to myself every night before bed....dont listen though.

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Originally posted by JulesPLees "Whatever you do....if you want to be a successful DJ dont get on the internet because you will just end up saying the wrong thing about the wrong person and get into a shitfight that will end your one chance" ---I say this to myself every night before bed....dont listen though.

nicely said ..

Politics makes the world go round I'm afraid

i'm aware politics is everywhere, but i was curious more so to encounters of politics in this particular area.

i'm not unfamiliar with club politics. i was amidst it all once upon a time. but those were within mainstream nights that pulled in crowds of at least a thousand weekly. lotta money made there, so lotta politics there, i understood.

any kind of electronic music genre tho, is not mainstream, so i cant imagine a lot of money to be made. crowds would be minimal, approx 500 ppl max? but u'd have an educated loyal following. i can only assume ppl would organise such nights to keep the music alive. very much like an indie record store. you wouldnt be doing it for the money, as long as there's enough to get by. now, because it'd be for the music, i don't understand scenarios like this.

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Originally posted by Sharpy Anywho...politics...yep everyone's a bitch and it sucks. Worst is being told you have to chose between playing 2 competing nights!!!!

why would an organization restrict the exposure of an aspirin dj to play music, espesh if its all about music. i'd understand if it was on the same night, but if not is "loyalty" really an issue to the group? should not the group be loyal to that particular music scene by lettin that dj play at other places?

mmm. i'm rambling.

JQ, how are we supposed to concentrate on reading ur posts when you've got T&A flashing at the bottom of every post ???



j/k

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Originally posted by JayKuE why would an organization restrict the exposure of an aspirin dj to play music, espesh if its all about music. i'd understand if it was on the same night, but if not is "loyalty" really an issue to the group? should not the group be loyal to that particular music scene by lettin that dj play at other places?

pfffft. who knows. alls i said was that it is ghey and i don't like it.

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Originally posted by Zerotonin JQ, how are we supposed to concentrate on reading ur posts when you've got T&A flashing at the bottom of every post ??? j/k

good point lol
be changin it soon nehoo.
everybody's saved it already rite?

**stares in wonder at JQ's sig.... **

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