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a copyright tip for newbie producers
you probably already know this little trick but i thought i'll make a contribution anyway since i found this out the hard way in the past.
if you make a good track and people like it, there is always someone thats gonna try and copy you....the best way around this is to not release your track to anyone first but to follow these simple steps.
1/ make an audio cd of your track/s or tape...whatever.
2/ package it in a strong envelope and post it (recorded post preferbly) and post it to yourself.
3/ DO NOT open you package. just keep it safe....and away from prying ears.
the reason for this is to stop people copying your work and selling it off as theres....this method WILL stand up in a court of justice because the package is dated and not opened. also it'll save you dollars/pounds in copyright fees.....
happy production......---peace
its a good tip. 
but my music sucks so nobody will steal it
trust me mate.....someone did it to me and i want to fuck them up...
i made a killa track for college and i got robbed for it...
spent 3 months on the bugger and endless nights playing with logic6 in my bedroom......still make some cool stuff now..
just weary of releasing them..
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=88352
You're a little bit late with this It's good information but it doesnt work in some countries (like the US).
thanks mate for clearing that up for me.....
sometimes i wish the authorities would give the public a little more slack and respect, rather than siding with the big shots....
doesnt stop me from creating quality tracks in the future.
virus indigo r00lz
how does mailing it to yourself make it copywrited and officialy yours? 
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| Originally posted by Unknown DJ how does mailing it to yourself make it copywrited and officialy yours? |
No no! Just follow my 3 step program:
Step One: Hunt the guy down, search high and low.
Step two: Prepare a butchers knife or a meathammer.
Step three: Smash or cut his fingers of so he cant play on a synth again.
(Remember to start every day with a smile
hahahahaha........there is that option....but in britain we do it like this.
burn his mom
burn his nan
burn his moms house
burn his house
pull his lungs out his arse
then steal the arpeggiator knob off his synth.......muhahahahah
lke state of matter said,
this wouldn't stand up in the us. you gotta take copyright actions and make it official...
This does not prove anything except that you mailed a track to yourself.. think about it for a minute..
What can you do in the U.S.?
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| Originally posted by NoMoreTears This does not prove anything except that you mailed a track to yourself.. think about it for a minute.. |
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| Originally posted by You aint Ninja What can you do in the U.S.? |
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| Originally posted by DJ Chrono getting a copyright doenst prove anything either really. in canada, you are required to fill out a form describing the type of work, and the title. it specifically says on the form "please do not send copies of your work". you could copyright any track, they wouldnt know if you made it or not. they dont even listen to it, or keep a copy on file. lets say I register a song called "Chrono - Hyperion". I use that as the title, here is the actual FORM. Then, a song is released by an established artist.. lets take "Pulser - Cloudwalking". The song was not created by me, but I claim that Pulser stole my song and changed the name. He copyrighted the track also, but at a later date. How would the copyrights have any kind of legal proof of who made the original song? I just don't get it. |
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller well...i'm not a 100%, but i would assume that it would be something like this... you file for a copyright at given date... pulsar files for a copyright at a later date... you believe that his song uses a substantial part of your tune (thats important...it would have to be something pretty major) given that your copyright is filed before his...you retain the rights of the music... |
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| Originally posted by DJ Chrono yes, but how would I be able to proove that my copyrighted song sounds the same or similar to Pulser's, if they dont have a copy of it. What is stopping me from making a song after Pulser's is released, and claim it was the one that I copyrighted before hand. |
Isnt having the flp or whatever file + samples etc enough proof, since the other guy doesnt have all that?
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller i know what your saying and like i said i'm not an expert on the subject. i'm pretty sure that they would require a copy of the tune that you submit for the copyright. it sounds rediculous, but they have huge underground facilities just to store things like this. i don't know all the details, but the government does have huge archives of information that contain everything from elvis songs to patents on inventions....at least in america...it might be different in canada... |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Isnt having the flp or whatever file + samples etc enough proof, since the other guy doesnt have all that? |
well as you can see from the flag in the fourum im british...
sending an orginal master copy to yourself before an initial release would be viable in the british courts......im not sure about america, cuz different states have different policies.....
Hey guys,
Like I've said before it all depends on where you live. In the US in particular the 'mail to yourself' thing isn't 100% proof, because as far as the courts see it, you had that envelope in your possesion and could have steamed open an envelope with an old date on it and inserted somone else's new track... Plus if you DO decide to sue someone and use that as your proof, the copyright office will STILL require you to register the work before you're allowed to sue. So you're really not saving any $$$ by not registering, you're just taking away some valueable proof that you're the original artist.
Head on over to http://www.loc.gov/copyright/ for information about copyrighting music. You'd be using form PA to copyright your composition and work, or if you're copyrighting a particular live performance or different sound recording of a previously registered work, you use form SR. The fee is only $35 I think, and if you neatly organize the materials you send to them, you can put a whole CDs worth of songs in the package and call it all one title, thus getting all 15 songs or so protected for $35 plus the envelope. Thats not so hard is it? Plus, when they eventually finish your registration a year later or so, the effective date of protection becomes the DAY they first received it, so all you need to do is send certified mail and look up the shipping status online - once they've received the package, if you're sure you didn't fuck anything up, you're officially protected.
Cheers
America is backwards anyway 
And if i made a track, I would post a copy to a solicitor where he could keep it locked away, then i wouldnt get screwed.
God bless the UK.
good point mate.......a solicitor would be handy...
just need a bit more financial backing for one
Use your parents solicitor?
A few I know do it free, cos if there is ever a case, they will be your solicitor for the case, hence they will make money.
God bless the uk.
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