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Posted by Alekos on Oct-22-2003 16:48:

is it just me ?

I started Djing like 3 Months ago and most of the time my beatmatching is awful, and it really pisses me off because I practice every single day, anyway last night I realized that all my problems are because of the speakers I use (electric guitar shitty speakers) but I'm not sure if that's the problem, after mixing for more than 2 hours my beatmatching gets really good
so my question is .... Have you ever used a shitty speakers and your beatmatching sucks ?

Posted by Zack Roth on Oct-22-2003 17:00:

I don't have high quality monitors or anything. So I beatmatch with my headphones on.

Posted by VIO on Oct-22-2003 17:09:

mixing on crappy monitors really does make it hard to beatmatch, especially if they're distorted. it fatigues your ears. i've mixed at parties where they had terrible monitors that were really distorted and i actually lost the ability to beatmatch after about 30 minutes because my ears were so fatigued. i can beatmatch and almost perfectly lock (you can never really get two tracks perfectly locked) two tracks in less then 20 seconds almost every single time but after 30 minutes with shitty monitors it was all over. it took nearly 90 seconds or more for me to get the beats locked. hell, just go get a cheap stereo and some cheap bookself speakers and you'll be a lot better off.

Posted by T:REBEL on Oct-22-2003 19:07:

Yeah, bookshelf speakers aren't so bad. I don't have any monitors so I have to use them.

That old Aiwa Stereo system comes in handy.

Posted by VIO on Oct-22-2003 19:29:

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Originally posted by T:REBEL
Yeah, bookshelf speakers aren't so bad.

well compared to a guitar amp their not!!! a good investment is a pair of nearfield studio monitors. they're the best to practice mixing on since you can hear if the tracks are even the slightest bit off.

Posted by MERTON on Oct-22-2003 20:55:

have any of you ever tried moding some headphones so you could hook each earpiece to a defferent source? go to headwize.com and see if someone there would be willing to.. jmtaudio.com may be willing to as well.

Posted by VIO on Oct-22-2003 21:15:

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Originally posted by MERTON
have any of you ever tried moding some headphones so you could hook each earpiece to a defferent source? go to headwize.com and see if someone there would be willing to.. jmtaudio.com may be willing to as well.

i understand where you're going with that. you're trying to get the mains to play through say the left channel of the headphones and the cue to play though the right channel. the problem is you can't modify your headphones to do that, that's something that has to be done at the mixer. the mixer would have to have that option. the only way you could possibly do that would be to modify the headphones to play two sources (one in each ear) then if your mixer had multiple outputs you would need to get a headphone amp (since you can't just plug a pair of headphones into a low-level output and expect any volume) you could then plug one channel into the headphones amp on the out put and one channel in the mixer's headphone output. that's way more trouble then just going and buying some decent speakers.

Posted by DJ1MK on Oct-23-2003 02:50:

If your mixer has a split cue function (like my Xone:62) then you can have the master volume in the right era and the cued track in the left ear. I couldn't do that for mixing though, but that's just me.

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Oct-23-2003 03:54:

man if you've just started your going to suck

get used to it...you'll get better..it just takes time...lots of it

Posted by dartman on Oct-23-2003 07:44:

yeah dude, three months is not a long time at all. as for your mixing getting better after 2 hours, maybe your getting into a groove. i know that my first couple of mixes are usually abit shakey, but as i start to get into it and feel the music they get alot better. I have some cheap 8" yamaha bookshelf speakers for monitors and they work fine. i have them pretty close to me while i'm mixing. i dont know how crappy your speakers are but i would venture to say that your beatmatching problems are coming from your newness to djing.

Posted by Alekos on Oct-23-2003 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by dartman
yeah dude, three months is not a long time at all. as for your mixing getting better after 2 hours, maybe your getting into a groove. i know that my first couple of mixes are usually abit shakey, but as i start to get into it and feel the music they get alot better. I have some cheap 8" yamaha bookshelf speakers for monitors and they work fine. i have them pretty close to me while i'm mixing. i dont know how crappy your speakers are but i would venture to say that your beatmatching problems are coming from your newness to djing.

First of all I would like to thank you all.
Last night I tryed to mix with me headphones on but somehow I just canot do it, well It doesn't feel right .
Dartman I think you are right all my problems are coming from my newess to djing.
Well I'll keep practicing everyday
Once again Thank you

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Oct-24-2003 03:38:

good luck

heck i sucked the for the first 2 years and sometimes i still do

keep at it and you'll be throwing down smooth transitions in no time

Posted by DJ 2Slow on Oct-25-2003 05:15:

its ok, I had crappy speakers to begin with, as well as crappy tables, so I just used my headphone, which sucked too, now I leave my headphonnes on almos the whole time, espically when i mix, it makes it much smoother to me, wahtever works i guess.

Posted by Flash Bastard on Oct-25-2003 09:34:

I beatmatch on the phones, i have sucky monitors and so on i can now beatchmatch in about 1 min instead of 6 min

anyway do what you think will work te best stick with it