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Posted by Kamikaze Badger on Oct-22-2003 22:19:

DJing with CD and Vinyl TTs?

Im just wondering if its possible to do that. It could possibly settle alot of debates and all.


Posted by VIO on Oct-22-2003 22:54:

of course it is. any club/rave dj worth his own ass can use both. turntablists are excluded from that though. their art requires them to pretty much use vinyl exclusively. a club/raver dj is required to blend songs together and what if your friend just wrote a fucking sick new track but doesn't have money to get a small pressing or cutting done? then you play it off of cd. the skills required to dj in the club and rave scene are the same for both cd and vinyl. once the tunes are beatmatched and locked it's all about your skill at putting it all together. yeah, there are some tricks you can do with vinyl but not with cd but really, how many club djs do a spin back or scratch every mix? hell, how many of the big names or any of the djs that you look up to scratch at all? some of them do sure, but i'll bet you even they use a track on a cd once or twice a set. if you're not a turntablist and you think you're too good to use cds and you'll only use vinyl (so you can be pure or a *real* dj) then you're just being a pretentious prick. nobody likes a pretentious prick execpt other pretentious pricks! people need to show respect to the djs that choose to use cd over vinyl, it's just as hard and they're just as good. i use both and i've always used both. cheers.


Posted by DeleriuM2K on Oct-22-2003 23:31:

of course
all you need is a 2 channel mixer (with a switch between line & phono inputs on each channel) and your set


Posted by Kamikaze Badger on Oct-22-2003 23:57:

Yea, that makes alot of sense. Ive done some mixing on traktor(but now i cant remember how to get the decks to play), and its amazing and how better the scratching sounds on vinyl then cd.


Posted by VIO on Oct-23-2003 00:28:

you can mix with one turntable and one cd but that's a pain in the ass because the next song you have to bring in has to be on cd or has to be on vinyl. you're best bet is to get two turntables and one cd player or vise versa. hell get a 4 channel mix and get two turntables, one cd player and hook the output of your computer up to the input on the mixer and you can mix from traktor or pcdj as a virtual turntable. i've done it and it's great actually pretty cool. cheers.


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Oct-23-2003 05:38:

Arrow

What you really have to do is own turntables and move in with a roommate that has cd decks


Posted by VIO on Oct-23-2003 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by IntegraR0064
What you really have to do is own turntables and move in with a roommate that has cd decks


nice.


Posted by nebbian on Oct-24-2003 23:04:

Hi,

I've got two CD decks and a turntable, hooked up to a three channel mixer. I reckon it's the ideal setup for me, as most of my stuff is on CD but I have a couple of slates kicking around as well.

Things to watch are:
1) Vinyl is bassier, and sounds 'fuller' for some reason. I have no idea why, and I was one of the naysayers before I bought my turntable, but for some reason after mixing a CD onto a vinyl track the new CD track sounds so tinny, sharp and nasty. I adjust the EQ's so the turntable highs are louder, and the CD highs are softer.
2) Beatmatching on vinyl is harder to hear than CD. Maybe it's just me, but that's the way I find it. I normally get the pitch to within 0.2% on vinyl, and bang on with CD. I think it's to do with the way that CD's are easier to cue than vinyl, but whatever the reason it seems a lot easier to get it right with CD's... or maybe I just need more practice with vinyl :-)

Cheers,
Ben


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Oct-24-2003 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by nebbian
2) Beatmatching on vinyl is harder to hear than CD. Maybe it's just me, but that's the way I find it. I normally get the pitch to within 0.2% on vinyl, and bang on with CD. I think it's to do with the way that CD's are easier to cue than vinyl, but whatever the reason it seems a lot easier to get it right with CD's... or maybe I just need more practice with vinyl :-)


I think you need more practice. I'm actually the opposite. i'm spot on with vinyl, but almost always slightly off with cds. I attributed that to the .1% pitch increments on the cds....


Posted by MindShifter on Oct-25-2003 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by VIO
turntablists are excluded from that though. their art requires them to pretty much use vinyl exclusively.


False, see Zabiela


Posted by sektile on Oct-25-2003 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by MindShifter
False, see Zabiela


hehe, preach it

zabiela's the man


Posted by DeleriuM2K on Oct-25-2003 16:29:

what type of CD decks does zabiela use?


Posted by DJ1MK on Oct-25-2003 20:16:

CDJ-1000s I think.


Posted by YellowG555 on Oct-26-2003 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by IntegraR0064
I think you need more practice. I'm actually the opposite. i'm spot on with vinyl, but almost always slightly off with cds. I attributed that to the .1% pitch increments on the cds....


CDJ-1000's have pitch increments down to 0.02%, but default is set at 0.05% which is good enough. 0.1% increments suck because the beats start drifting very very quickly and that just makes your transitioning that less easier.


Posted by VIO on Oct-26-2003 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by MindShifter
False, see Zabiela


allow me to reiterate my previous statement.

"turntablists are excluded from that though. their art requires them to *pretty much* use vinyl exclusively"

as you can read, i wrote "pretty much", not "always". so my statement is indead ture, not false.


Posted by MindShifter on Oct-27-2003 00:07:

Yes, but the connotation that you were using when you wrote what you wrote made it seem as though you were discounting anyone who scratched using CD decks, that is all. Thank you.



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